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« on: March 15, 2005, 09:19:15 AM »

THE DEATH PENALTY

A few weeks ago I gave an interview to Police Supt. Raymond G. Zammit. He has a diploma in criminology and is doing his last year for an MA in the same subject. The Supt. is a lecturer at the Police Academy.

Supt. Zammit is the author of a very informative book titled: Meta Tibki il Korp - a history of policemen who died during the course of their duties. He is now preparing his second book, regarding the Death Penalty and this was the reason he sought me.

The Supt was astounded to learn that Norman Lowell, a Radical Racialist Rightist, is dead against the Death Penalty.

Retribution in the courts is nothing but a sublimated sense of revenge. "An eye for an eye" - is ingrained in our subconscious. Since earliest times man has sought "justice" through penalties, often increasing their harshness in proportion to their ineffectiveness. We must remember that in medieval Britain, boys used to be hanged for stealing a knife or a fork, for pick-pocketing ? with pick-pockets deftly going about their business during the hangings.

In the White World, crime by Whites against Whites was always relatively low in comparison with, for example, Black on Black crime. South Africa today, an independent nation, is a glaring example of rampant Black crime.

Thus, while the need for the death penalty subsided in most of the civilised White world, especially in Western Europe, after WWII, the clamour for it in America has increased from year to year. States that had abolished it are under increasing pressure to reintroduce it. And the reason is obvious. Two completely different races, one sophisticated and the other most primitive, live cheek by jowl. Black on White crime in the USA is fourteen times greater than White on Black crime - and the Blacks constitute only 12% of the population.

Faced by this creeping jungle into their suburbs, to where the Whites flee as the "black ink" spreads, the cry for the Death Penalty echoes throughout America. President Bush, possibly the stupidest President in the whole history of the USA, has understood this simple, basic truth.

In Holland after the murder of Pym Fortuyn and Van Gogh, the latter by a Moroccan turned Dutchman, through the simple expedient of a bureaucratic rubber stamp, has revamped the Death Penalty debate. Short shrift for murderers seems a fast, effective solution. But is it?

Whites under siege

The White race is a dwindling minority of 5% of the world?s population. In fifteen years it will be 4%. We are under siege. Blacks and others are breeding within our midst and soon, very soon, our capital cities will be overrun. We will become minorities in our own heartland.

In this scenario the death penalty is certainly to be encouraged. For the chances are that it will be used predominantly against murderous minorities in our midst. In plain language, it would help, albeit in a very small way, in cleaning up the stables. But for us of Imperium Europa, the death penalty can never be the final solution.

Serial Killers

Serial Killers have always been the object of abhorrence and revulsion. The cry for the death penalty for these murderers comes naturally. But is this the solution to this particular problem? When one executes a serial killer one kills with him the genetic key to solving the problem. His children carry in their very genes their father?s inclinations. This tendency to snap, from a perfectly normal person to a murderous machine may lie dormant for generations, but it is there, lurking, ready to manifest itself again.

Serial killers in the USA are hardly ever executed. Lucas murdered over 400 people, of whom over 300 corpses have been found. Geneticists study him. In his DNA may lie the secret for the ultimate cure for serial killings.

The Russian Rostov murderer caused outrage and fear. He used to gauge the eyes out of his victims, before castrating them and sodomising them. When he was finally caught President Yeltsin promised swift execution but, after the trial no more was heard. No photo of the mass murderer was ever exhibited in order to placate the victims' families. Not only that, it is a strongly held view that he was sold for $2 million to a Canadian institute specialising in genetics.

Years ago the study of phrenology, the linking of crime to morphology and the shape of one's head, was becoming a science. Now, we can move beyond phrenology to genetics. With the discovery of DNA and the continuous growth of genetics as a major study underlying most human problems, including crime, it is time to revalue the efficacy of the Death Penalty.

Imperium Europa

In our future, inevitable, unstoppable Imperium Europa, there will be no place for the Death Penalty. Once established the Imperium will cleanse itself of all non-Europids. They will be forcefully repatriated to their respective continents. Those non-Europids serving either jail-terms for murder or, as in the USA are in death-row, will all be summarily executed in a matter of days.

As for Whites serving for the crime of murder, these will be transferred from prisons to specialised clinics. There, they will spend the rest of their lives being studied. They will serve as human guinea-pigs in the service of the Imperium. They will help us solve, once and for all, the genetic problem of serious crimes like murder, rape, paedophilia and others. Eventually, over generations as the culling continues, crime certainly will decrease.

We need to revert to science not superstition - to genetics not gallows - to eugenics not electrocution. The days of the Death Penalty are rapidly coming to an end.

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 11:18:11 AM »

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THE DEATH PENALTY

A few weeks ago I gave an interview to Police Supt. Raymond G. Zammit. He has a diploma in criminology and is doing his last year for an MA in the same subject. The Supt. is a lecturer at the Police Academy.

Supt. Zammit is the author of a very informative book titled: Meta Tibki il Korp ? a history of policemen who died during the course of their duties. He is now preparing his second book, regarding the Death Penalty and this was the reason he sought me.

The Supt was astounded to learn that Norman Lowell, a Radical Racialist Rightist, is dead against the Death Penalty...


While I understand your view point, I must disagree ... capital punishment has always been part of Western society ... and it has, to a greater or lesser degree, been based on a similar concept of "Eye for an Eye" -- Lex Talionis -- the Law of Retribution ... in fact, the concept of the Fasces indicates this such fact (the power to inflict capital punishment -- hence the need for the AX bundled with the sticks ... as the Ax represents the power to inflict death (capital offence derives from the word "caput" -- meaning head -- as in chopping somebody's head off) .... the bundled rods in a Fasces represent Corporal punishement (think Singaporian type caninng) ... not the power to inflict death, but a good beating could be given by a magistrate who had lictors walking around with him (with an ax).  During war time, a "motorcade" of Lictors would ride along with a Senate delegate (Legatus) ... and all 15 Lictors would carry the Fasces WITH BIG SHINEY AX -- letting the enemy know that this magistrate had the power of Rome with him -- that if he wanted to declare war, he had the power -- in fact, the famous "line in the sand" comes down to us from a Roman consul (his name escapes me now) who told the Syrian General (in Egypt) ... cross this line and you're at war with Rome ... dragging a line in front of him in the sand with his feet.  The Syrian General thought about it for a minute, and retreated ...

Capital punishment isn't meant to really be a deterrent ... although, it deters a lot of people -- people who have the ability to think about consequences of their actions.  Those more rabid serial killer types generally stem from debased societies ... how many have you had in Malta?  In Slovakia?  Generally, they're found in more racially-culturally debased nations like the USA, London, etc... I don't think it's necessarily genetic ... and if it is, those people, under the right circumstances, have their role to play (doing the dirty work in war requires a more than normal individual.

I think it's a mistake to reject the death penality -- I think the bigger reasons for NOT needing it as much must be addressed (as in, a racially homogenous state in tact with its traditional roots lesses mental disease) ... in the meantime, I see nothing wrong with cutting off the heads of people who do bad things ... I most certainly don't want to pay for them .. :-)

If it was good enough for the Romans, it's good enough for me! ;-) (I prefer exile, mainly for non-capital crimes)...
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 12:19:36 PM »

I agree with the death penalty. Actually I think it is being used too little. I seriously doubt it deters many murders but I think it would deter burglars, rapists and muggers.
 
Each individual felon should be closely scrutinised by the justice system. If there is any real prospect of reform with recompense the criminal should be given a chance to become law-abiding and pay, in cash , for his crimes.
 
If not then an efficient execution is in the interests of the community. A hardened criminal is a cancer on society. The costs of incarcarating him for life are astronomical. Prisons cost more per bed per night than most luxury hotels.
 
Capital punishment should become an option for far more crimes.
If a child is born in a poor and criminal enviroment the chances of him becoming criminal are very high. The state should intervene in such cases and take these children away from their parents for their own good. They would be adopted by childless couples who can offer them a stable background.
 
Any person convicted of a second felony should have his kids taken away.
This may serve as a deterrent for criminals or it might stop them having children. Either way everyone's a winner.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 12:31:38 PM »

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I agree with the death penalty. Actually I think it is being used too little. I seriously doubt it deters many murders but I think it would deter burglars, rapists and muggers.


Burglary, Rape, and Mugging are not capital crimes ... generally capital punishment is reserved for a capital crime (in otherwords, you will just have to make them capital crimes, but that's probably a bit too much .... burglary and mugging are generally economic, while rapist might qualify (depends on what the woman wants to do in my opinion -- otherwise, a good castration should do the trick...)
 
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Each individual felon should be closely scrutinised by the justice system. If there is any real prospect of reform with recompense the criminal should be given a chance to become law-abiding and pay, in cash , for his crimes.


This is similar to the islamic system - in fact, you can "forgive" a criminal and take money compensation -- I find it strange....
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 02:56:37 PM »

Punishment should not fit the crime it should fit the criminal and the crime. Stealing a wallet  sounds like a minor offence but it is an act of dishonesty, what should matter is not the size of the theft but how it fits into a pattern of behaviour; what caused the behaviour, is it likely to happen again without a harsh punishment, what would be the effect of a punishment. For most people caught stealing the fact of detection is all that is required to shock them into seeing sense. For others a severe punishment is absolutely necessary, and for a further minority all punishment is a waste of effort. For some criminals the simplest and most straightforward answer is to execute them while you have a chance, even if that is for a "first time offence" of a seemingly minor nature.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 03:26:34 PM »

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Punishment should not fit the crime it should fit the criminal and the crime. Stealing a wallet  sounds like a minor offence but it is an act of dishonesty, what should matter is not the size of the theft but how it fits into a pattern of behaviour; what caused the behaviour, is it likely to happen again without a harsh punishment, what would be the effect of a punishment. For most people caught stealing the fact of detection is all that is required to shock them into seeing sense. For others a severe punishment is absolutely necessary, and for a further minority all punishment is a waste of effort. For some criminals the simplest and most straightforward answer is to execute them while you have a chance, even if that is for a "first time offence" of a seemingly minor nature.


Good point, I agree ... however, killing people should not be done lightly ... I think exile outside our civiliation (say, one-way ticket to Libya) would be a perfect solution ... IMO -- I'm sure they'd love receiving boat loads of people from us ;-)
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 06:10:13 PM »

Even if I disagree with Norman on some tiny minor issues, he seems to have a great point in regards to studying such illnesses...

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/03/15/britain.cannibal.reut/index.html

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2005, 09:36:58 PM »

it's important to study serial killers but after studying these should be punished otherwise you will do an injustice with the victim.
 
a serial killer is generally unable to feel any pity sentiments so they will never be sorry for anything they did.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2005, 09:36:15 AM »

People like Bryan should be given a chance to be given lengthy and private consultations by the likes of Fr Mark Montebello and Peppi Azzopardi. That would surely eradicate some of our society's problems.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2005, 10:27:37 PM »

I always pray that these persons commit crime not on innocent people like us, but on those who want them free.
 
Regards what norman said i fully agree we should study them. However after the study is done they should be killed for what they did.
 
 
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No argo, i doubt it. in fact i didn't post a picture of the cannibal killer simply because this "englishman" is in fact a negro. Now do you really think the likes of peppi & co would ever condemn the acts of that particular superior race?
 
No, i very much doubt it. in fact what they would probably do is rant about how his mental instability stems from his being victimised / traumatised for being of a darker skin color .......
 
or maybe start a petition to release him from jail and put back in some mental institution :mad:
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