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« on: June 12, 2006, 02:25:06 PM »

Grazzi deputati u ministri tal eu
 
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5071806.stm
EU agrees to start Turkey talks


EU foreign ministers have agreed on a common position to start membership talks with Turkey after Cyprus raised last-minute objections.
The agreement came after crisis talks between the Austrian EU presidency and Cyprus on Sunday night and Monday.
Cyprus wanted the EU to press Turkey to recognise Cyprus - divided since 1974 - and open its ports to Cypriot ships.
Turkey threatened to boycott the meeting of foreign ministers in Luxembourg unless Cyprus compromised.
The EU informed Ankara about the agreement. Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul, who had delayed his departure, was expected to sett off to join the other foreign ministers in Luxembourg.
The EU went some way towards accepting Cyprus' demands.
The EU text reminds Turkey that "failure to implement its obligations in full will affect the overall progress in the negotiations," Reuters news agency reports.
The agreement means Turkey is on course to conclude the first and easiest of 35 EU policy "chapters" which have to be fulfilled for its membership bid to succeed. The first chapter concerns science and technology.
Cyprus joined the EU in May 2004, despite the fact that it has been divided since 1974.
The split came when Turkey occupied the northern third of the island, following an abortive Greek Cypriot coup backed by the military junta ruling Greece at the time. Turkey says recognition of Cyprus is linked to a UN-sponsored peace plan to reunite the island, which Turkish Cypriots accepted but Greek Cypriots rejected in 2004.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2006, 07:33:08 PM »

THE END OF EUROPE IS NEAR!!!!!!

 
 EU agrees to start Turkey talks
 
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   EU foreign ministers have agreed on a common position to start membership talks with Turkey after Cyprus raised last-minute objections. The agreement came after crisis talks between the Austrian EU presidency and Cyprus on Sunday night and Monday.
 
 Cyprus wanted the EU to press Turkey to recognise Cyprus - divided since 1974 - and open its ports to Cypriot ships. Turkey threatened to boycott the meeting of foreign ministers in Luxembourg unless Cyprus compromised. The EU informed Ankara about the agreement. Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul, who had delayed his departure, is set to join the other foreign ministers in Luxembourg.
 
 The EU went some way towards accepting Cyprus' demands. The EU text reminds Turkey that "failure to implement its obligations in full will affect the overall progress in the negotiations". The agreement means Turkey is on course to conclude the first and easiest of 35 EU policy "chapters" which have to be fulfilled for its membership bid to succeed. The first chapter concerns science and technology.
 
 Cyprus joined the EU in May 2004, despite the fact that it has been divided since 1974. The split came when Turkey occupied the northern third of the island, following an abortive Greek Cypriot coup backed by the military junta ruling Greece at the time. Turkey says recognition of Cyprus is linked to a UN-sponsored peace plan to reunite the island, which Turkish Cypriots accepted but Greek Cypriots rejected in 2004.
 
 The EU agreed last October to launch talks on Turkey's membership bid - but the deal followed more than 24 hours of intense negotiations among EU members
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2006, 08:59:29 PM »

Well, it is now obvious to Us the EU's true agenda:

The Immolation of Europa.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2006, 11:53:48 PM »

Relax. The EU is just playing along with the whole thing. Turkey will get a nasty shock around 2020.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2006, 01:47:19 PM »

1. Pope visit highlights opinion rifts over Turkey's role in Europe - 27.11.2006  -  09:29
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As  thousands of Muslims protest against this week's visit by Pope Benedict
XVI  to Turkey, the Vatican's chief spokesman in Istanbul has told
EUobserver the  Muslim country belongs in Europe and opposition towards it is based on fear  of the unknown.

http://euobserver.com/9/22955/?rk=1

The confused, contradictory, corrupt Catholic church!
One step forward: two steps back!
Is it tango, chia-chia, or fox trot?

We need a New Spirituality based on Racial Conciousness.
A Cosmotheism attuned to Nature's Divine Laws.
We need to end the slave religion.

Turkey must not, never be in Europe!
It is what the Rodents want - in order to destroy us.
90 million mixed-Mongolid Muslims roaming, swarming all over us.

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2006, 02:42:22 PM »

I assure you that Turkey will never be in Europe because they do not belong with Europe and we just don't want them to be part of us. Everything under the sun will be done to stop this other treason and our MEP clowns voted for them to join. That is another great reason to have Norman Lowell as our next MEP.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2006, 03:00:00 PM »

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I assure you that Turkey will never be in Europe because they do not belong with Europe and we just don't want them to be part of us. Everything under the sun will be done to stop this other treason and our MEP clowns voted for them to join. That is another great reason to have Norman Lowell as our next MEP.

From what I gather the Turkish people themselves are generally reluctant to join the EU because they not only don't feel very welcome but don't particularly feel the need for it.

From what I understand I should also note that it is not sufficient to merely lump Turkey with the title of 'Muslim' as I gather that their life-style is significantly more European than some other Arab countries.

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Should Turkey be allowed to enter the EU? Technically the citizens of other countries and Turkey should not intermingle as each country would lose a portion of its identity. On the other hand I see no valid reason not to enter into a mutually beneficial (and fair, ragardless of the shift of leverage required to achieve this) economic arrangement between Turkey and European Union countries.

There is a time and a place for everything, or so I believe.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2006, 03:22:05 PM »

Lifestyles of many north African muslim arabs also "resemble" that of Europeans. If European customs copying and European simulacra beahviour is going to be the criteria, then any nation  with sufficient capacity for European mimetism should qualify.
 
The question , the most vital question, is whether the EU is what its name implies ; a union of Europeans. It might have been way back in 1960 in its nascent form, but it does not seems so today.  Judging by the way it is conducting its affairs the EU it's more akin to an economic country club, with membership open to all and sundry who "qualify". The qualification criteria is flexible and malleable to suit each and every circumstance under scrutiny.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2006, 03:31:50 PM »

Negotiations or no negotiations with Turkistan have little significance in the grandiose scheme. The relentless Turkish migration and settlement into Europe continues unabated. The wave of  illegal migrants from Asia, which use Turkey as a launching pad - with the connivance and support of Turkey -  to enter Europe illegaly reaches new crescendo.
In ten years from now with present trends continuing, Turkey's de facto presence in the EU would be an unchallengeable fait accompli . With a de facto Turkey as part of the EU, it does not necessarily follow to accord it a de jure recognition; its acknowledgement would remain in the realm of a formality.
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2006, 03:59:53 PM »

turkey will not join but we must continue to voice our opinions. it will not join because france has promised a referendum on the issue.

vive le france!
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