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« on: July 14, 2009, 02:44:00 PM »

How would IE deal with drugs? Legalize them ALL? Or make some exceptions?
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2009, 03:16:36 PM »

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How would IE deal with drugs? Legalize them ALL? Or make some exceptions?

Make some exceptions. No point in tying up the courts and police resources in cchasing first time offenders and smoking crack pots!
Go for the big fish.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 04:25:08 PM »

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How would IE deal with drugs? Legalize them ALL? Or make some exceptions?

Every Region will be free to enact any Drug Law the People vote for.
Some Regions will legalise ALL drugs - some Regions only some.
Other Regions may adopt draconian punishment for drug pushers/users.

Drugs are not an Imperium issue - falls strictly within the Dominium sphere.
Ergo: the Regions decide.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 08:50:44 PM »

Drugs have to be outlawed. Drug consumption and drug culture is one of the most devastating weapons  used to  debilitate, debase, degenerate  and wreak havoc with the youth of Europe.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2009, 12:57:20 AM »

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Drugs have to be outlawed. Drug consumption and drug culture is one of the most devastating weapons used to debilitate, debase, degenerate and wreak havoc with the youth of Europe.

When was the last time you got laid, homo? Oh wait, you are a family man, I forgot... But at the same time you are anti-White! How does that work out for you?
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2011, 08:04:22 PM »

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Make some exceptions. No point in tying up the courts and police resources in cchasing first time offenders and smoking crack pots!
Go for the big fish.

(OK ADMIN I`m reposting the one that disappeared because I think it`s worth repeating.)
 
As for the BIG FISH, from where I?m standing the BIG FISH are none other than the police and authorities themselves.
 
And again I emphasize that I agree with IMPERIUM that drugs are a regional issue. Those that choose to kill themselves with crack or heroin or whatever, are completely free to do so in their respective region, where drugs are voted for.
Drug abuse in drug-free zones is to be punished extremely heavily. Anyone caught using narcotics in drug-free zones WILL BE EXILED PERMANENTLY TO THE DRUG-ZONE REGION AFTER THEY HAVE SERVED A LONG PRISON SENTENCE ACCORDING TO THE WEIGHT OF THE CRIME.
WE WILL SPARE NO-ONE.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 08:49:26 PM »

I'm not in favour of outlawing drugs, but I found this news article and thought it's relevant.

Drug deaths now outnumber traffic fatalities in U.S., data show

                                               Fueling the surge are prescription pain and  anxiety drugs that are potent, highly addictive and especially dangerous  when combined with one another or with other drugs or alcohol.



Lori Smith of Aliso Viejo with photographs of her son Nolan, who died of  a drug overdose in January 2009, six months shy of his 16th birthday. A  toxicology test turned up Zoloft, which had been prescribed for  anxiety, and a host of other drugs that had not been prescribed,  including two additional anti-anxiety drugs, as well as morphine and  marijuana.

                                                                                      By Lisa Girion, Scott Glover and Doug Smith
Source: Los Angeles Times                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              September 17, 2011, 2:55 p.m.


Propelled by an increase in prescription narcotic overdoses, drug deaths  now outnumber traffic fatalities in the United States, a Times analysis  of government data has found.

Drugs exceeded motor vehicle accidents as a cause of death in 2009,  killing at least 37,485 people nationwide, according to preliminary data  from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

                                                                                                                                                         While most major causes of  preventable death are declining, drugs are an exception. The death toll  has doubledin the last decade, now claiming a life every 14  minutes. By contrast, traffic accidents have been dropping for decades  because of huge investments in auto safety.

Public health experts have used the comparison to draw attention to the nation's growing prescription drug  problem, which they characterize as an epidemic. This is the first time  that drugs have accounted for more fatalities than traffic accidents  since the government started tracking drug-induced deaths in 1979.

Fueling the surge in deaths are prescription pain and anxiety  drugs that are potent, highly addictive and especially dangerous when  combined with one another or with other drugs or alcohol. Among the most  commonly abused are OxyContin, Vicodin, Xanax  and Soma. One relative newcomer to the scene is Fentanyl, a painkiller  that comes in the form of patches and lollipops and is 100 times more  powerful than morphine.

Such drugs now cause more deaths than heroin and cocaine combined.

"The problem is right here under our noses in our medicine cabinets,"  said Laz Salinas, a sheriff's commander in Santa Barbara, which has seen  a dramatic rise in prescription drug deaths in recent years.

Overdose victims range in age and circumstance from teenagers who pop  pills to get a heroin-like high to middle-aged working men and women who  take medications prescribed for strained backs and bum knees and become  addicted.

A review of hundreds of autopsy reports in Southern California reveals  one tragic demise after another: A 19-year-old Army recruit, who had  just passed his military physical, took a handful of Xanax and  painkillers while partying with friends. A groom, anxious over his  upcoming wedding, overdosed on a cocktail of prescription drugs. A  teenage honors student overdosed on painkillers her father left in his  medicine cabinet from a surgery years earlier. A toddler was orphaned  after both parents overdosed on prescription drugs months apart. A  grandmother suffering from chronic back pain  apparently forgot she'd already taken her daily regimen of pills and ended up double dosing.

Many died after failed attempts at rehab ? or after using one too many  times while contemplating quitting. That's apparently what happened to a  San Diego woman found dead with a Fentanyl patch on her body, one of  five she'd applied in the 24 hours before her death. Next to her on the  couch was a notebook with information about rehab.

The seeds of the problem were planted more than a decade ago by  well-meaning efforts by doctors to mitigate suffering, as well as  aggressive sales campaigns by pharmaceutical manufacturers. In  hindsight, the liberalized prescription of pain drugs "may in fact be  the cause of the epidemic we're now facing," said Linda Rosenstock, dean  of the UCLA School of Public Health.

In some ways, prescription drugs are more dangerous than illicit ones  because users don't have their guard up, said Los Angeles County  Sheriff's Sgt. Steve Opferman, head of a county task force on  prescription drug-related crimes. "People feel they are safer with  prescription drugs because you get them from a pharmacy and they are  prescribed by a doctor," Opferman said. "Younger people believe they are  safer because they see their parents taking them. It doesn't have the  same stigma as using street narcotics."

Lori Smith said she believes that's what her son might have been  thinking the night he died six months shy of his 16th birthday. Nolan  Smith, of Aliso Viejo, loved to surf, sail and fish with his brother and  father. He suffered from migraines and anxiety but showed no signs of drug abuse, his mother said.

The night before he died in January 2009, Nolan called his mother at  work, asking for a ride to the girls basketball game at Aliso Niguel  High School. Lori told him she couldn't get away.

When Nolan didn't come home that evening, his parents called police and  his friends. His body was found the next morning on a stranger's front  porch.

A toxicology test turned up Zoloft, which had been prescribed for  anxiety, and a host of other drugs that had not been prescribed,  including two additional anti-anxiety drugs, as well as morphine and  marijuana.

All investigators could give the family were theories.

"They said they will have parties where the kids will throw a bunch of  pills in a bowl and the kids take them without knowing what they are,"  Lori said. "We called all of his friends, but no one would say they were  with him. But he must have been with someone. You just don't do that by  yourself."

The triumph of public health policies that have improved traffic safety  over the years through the use of seat belts, air bags and other  measures stands in stark contrast to the nation's record on prescription  drugs. Even though more people are driving more miles, traffic  fatalities have dropped by more than a third since the early 1970s to  36,284 in 2009. Drug-induced deaths had equaled or surpassed traffic  fatalities in California, 22 other states and the District of Columbia  even before the 2009 figures revealed the shift at the national level,  according to the Times analysis.

The Centers for Disease Control collects data on all causes of death  each year and analyzes them to identify health problems. Drug-induced  deaths are mostly accidental overdoses but also include suicides and  fatal diseases caused by drugs.

The CDC's 2009 statistics are the agency's most current. They are  considered preliminary because they reflect 96% of death certificates  filed. The remaining are deaths for which the causes were not  immediately clear.

Drug fatalities more than doubled among teens and young adults between  2000 and 2008, years for which more detailed data are  available. Deaths  more than tripled among people aged 50 to 69, the Times analysis found.  In terms of sheer numbers, the death toll is highest among people in  their 40s.

Overdose deaths involving prescription painkillers, including OxyContin  and Vicodin, and anti-anxiety drugs such as Valium and Xanax more than  tripled between 2000 and 2008.

The rise in deaths corresponds with doctors prescribing more painkillers  and anti-anxiety medications. The number of prescriptions for the  strongest pain pills filled at California pharmacies, for instance,  increased more than 43% since 2007 ? and the doses grew by even more,  nearly 50%, according to a review of prescribing data collected by the  state.

Those prescriptions provide relief to pain sufferers but also fuel a  thriving black market. Prescription drugs are traded on Internet chat  rooms that buzz with offers of "vikes," "percs" and "oxys" for $10 to  $80 a pill. They are sold on street corners along with heroin, marijuana  and crack. An addiction to prescription drugs can be costly; a heavy  OxyContin  habit can run twice as much as a heroin addiction,  authorities say.

On a recent weekday morning, Los Angeles County undercover sheriff's  deputies posing as drug buyers easily purchased enough pills to fill a  medicine cabinet on a sidewalk a few blocks south of Los Angeles City  Hall.

The most commonly abused prescription drug, hydrocodone,  also is the most widely prescribed drug in America, according to the  U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency. Better known as Vicodin, the pain reliever  is prescribed more often than the top cholesterol drug and the top  antibiotic.

"We have an insatiable appetite for this drug ? insatiable," Joseph T.  Rannazzisi, a top DEA administrator, told a group of pharmacists at a  regulatory meeting in Sacramento.

In April, the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy  announced initiatives aimed at  stanching prescription drug abuse. The  plans include a series of drug take-back days, modeled after similar  programs involving weapons, in which consumers are encouraged to turn  leftover prescription drugs in to  authorities. Another initiative would  develop voluntary courses to train physicians on how to safely  prescribe pain drugs, a curriculum that is not widely taught in medical  schools.

Initial attempts to reverse the trend in drug deaths ? such as state-run  prescription drug-monitoring programs aimed at thwarting  "doctor-shopping" addicts ? don't appear to be having much effect, experts say.

"What's really scary is we don't know a lot about how to reduce  prescription deaths," said Amy S.B. Bohnert, a researcher at the University of Michigan Medical School who is studying ways to lower the risk of prescription drugs.

"It's a wonderful medical advancement that we can treat pain," Bohnert said. "But we haven't figured out the safety belt yet."

STATISTICS:
Preventable deaths from drugs, motor vehicles and firearms

(Sources: Centers for Disease Control. Data analysis by Doug Smith and Lisa Girion)

                                                               Rise in drug-induced deaths since 2000

(Sources: Centers for Disease Control and U.S. Census Bureau)
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 08:31:57 AM »

Read Reply No. 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4i4aoYc0uA&list=TLEbioXLUH78gd4NKQcB7YkCCF0W1Y3vOB

South Africa Drug Problem -
and why, as elsewhere, it is failing.
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However:
Portugal's Decriminalizing of Drugs has been a remarkable success.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=portugal%20decriminalise%20drugs&form=UP97DF&pc=UP97&dt=072213

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 05:53:30 PM »

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