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Title: Hungary
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 01:15:05 AM
enjoy sepp!!

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_id=13086


The Men in Blue have arrived- The murderers and child killers in blue arrived on the 9th of March. 200 Israeli solders in their standard blue uniforms as a ?military delegation? arrived in four buses - windows covered ? to the center of Budapest to a huge city block sized synagogue. They did get out of the bus and walked into this center of unrestrained human love and source of all wisdom for mankind.
 They were also received in the Hungarian Parliament by Mr. Laszlo Mandur before they drove to the synagogue.
 Obviously the intention is to house them there in the center of the city, within a few hundred yards from the spots where all the action will be played out on the 15th of March. Interesting that the Israeli Supreme Court just made a decision that it is forbidden to use civilians as human shields for Israeli soldiers. How will these fine people protect themselves in our country now?
 We did have a similar event: A few days before the 23rd of October (last year) a U.S. military transporter with a few hundred soldiers and what else was parked in a corner at the Budapest airport. It was obvious that they were their in preparation to help to emigrate our beloved Prime Minister, Mr. Gyurcsany and his family either to the U.S. or Israel, in case if the need suddenly arrives.
 Generally, the government and the media is trying to create maximum hysteria in advance in order to justify the coming beating, blinding and maiming of Hungarians on the 15th of March. This is the day when the Hungarian war of independence broke out against Austria in 1848. When the Hungarians won against Austria the Russians dutifully sent in an army to help out?
 We do have around a hundred celebrations and demonstrations already lined up for this day.
 The local Jewish organizations are openly promoting to their members to spend the very long weekend starting on March 15th in a foreign country.
 This writer is sitting here in the middle of this whole mass, speaks the language, has access to all possible information sources and he is familiar with all local customs and history, still it is increasingly difficult for him to separate reality from hysteria. The whole country is shifting into lala-land and there is only one fix point: The local Judeo-Bolshevik government increasingly depends on 30,000 policemen to survive from week to week. It just might turn out to be a very long and hot summer this year.
 The government and their well paid and numerous agents keep complaining that the rebels are importing firearms into the country. No proof was ever provided. The whole thing sounds like an urban legend to justify the dramatically increasing expenses for police hardware.
 There was a single incident involving an AK47: Somebody opened up on the national HQ of the police in Budapest, a huge building covered with bulletproof glass plates. It might be that those eight people who were blinded by the police with rubber bullets were not all happy about this event and used their left over eye. But it is even more likely that it was a self-inflicted wound on those 15 glass plates. (Replacement is $5,000/each.) The suspects were filmed with their car, and were not caught. A rather suspicious circumstance. As far as the use of hard rubber bullets: It will be permitted again for the police.
 Around Kossuth Square, where the whole action started on the 17th of September there is a double metal cordon, protected by police 24/7.
On the other hand the courts permitted that 15 people can actually walk around the Square ? as demonstrators. This is what they call democracy around here.
 In the meantime the government published a list of 300 public hospitals that will be closed in the country. The buildings will be sold to satisfy the greed of the parasites who are in preparation to jump the ship. Thousands of government owned buildings, public utility companies, even the airport of Budapest was sold to international gangsters who pay kickbacks to their local comrades.
 The general population is at the point of open rebellion in larger and larger proportions. Average income and the standard of life is rapidly decreasing while taxes, prices and fees are increasing.
 Even George Soros finds that the place is unstable for investments; he started to operate in Bolivia where the locals broke out in a revolt against him and his clan.
The locals claim at open public meetings that Soros is buying up land and natural resources.
 David Irving will be delivering public speeches and signing his books in Budapest, starting on the 12th of March. He is scheduled to speak at Heroes Plaza on the 15th.
 The local supervisors of our Brand New World Order figured this out after he was already traveling in the area for a while. They are trying to sort out how to spin this news, how to fit it into the local background ? it is not an easy job. To deny the Holiest Hoax of them all is not a crime by Hungarian laws and for Irving it is not really necessary to deny anything in order to make a statement.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 01:18:31 AM
some lovely comments!
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on March 12, 2007, 03:03:08 AM
The last paragraph made my day!
:);)
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 06:37:32 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
har har har.The readers comments after the article are a scream.Even the japanese hate the jews har har har.:D

i heard that the japanese have good taste too.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 07:04:29 PM
a lot of idiots but some readable comments.
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Adressed to them, who do not understand the word "occupation" in this context. In Hungary lives the highest number of jews in Europe per inhabitants of Hungary. (The second Synagogue by his size after New Yorker is in Budapest) More then 70 percent of hungarian high and middle level leaders are jews. Almost the whole goverment, and a good deal of Parliament MP-s are jews, or are jews' slaves. The hungarian police is lead by jews too. When in 23. of October eyes were shot out by the Police, a lot of hungarians heard hebrew words among the policemen. The Hungarian Army is weakened to misery, and the Minister of Defence is also a jew. A lot of hungarians think, that Hungary is prepared to be the new Israel in Ezrope. In this circumstances 200 israeli soldiers in Budapest gives a feeling of the final occupation. It is understandable, is'nt it?
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If the government of your country has been corrupted by the jew or anyone else. It is up to the people to seek change in government. The process usually runs this way: The ballot box, the jury box and finally... the cartridge box. Good luck to you all.
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The tide is turning and the days are numberd for the Jews. In nation after nation the people are awakening to the Jews machinations. The undue sympathy for the "poor Jew" is gone, and Jewish supremism is exposed. May the example being set by the good people of Hungary spread to all nations.
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Marcus from Poland spoke so much truth with very few words. Everything he said can be backed with facts.Those who control communications can control the people to any agenda through propaganda which the sheeple go for time after time. Until their power of the media is broken they will continue to have the most power of all people.
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The "hungarian" communists after the WW2 were the troian horses of the russians. Thanks to them, there were russian troops for more than 40 years in Hungary. The current government, that calls himself "socialist", but commonly mentioned countrywide as "socionist" is mostly made up from multimillionaires (who stole their money from the commons during the political changes on the beginning of the 90's), relies on the jews the same way. The PM and his staff are morally compromised, without any patriotism, easily blackmailed by those who knows their dark business affairs from the past. They won the elections only with their manipulations on the common people, and by denying those law modification proposals of the opposite party that would have made the socialists favourite electoral cheating methods impossible.
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The day that I see an Israeli uniform in the US that will be the day that I will become a "terrorist".  "God Bless America"
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 08:56:59 PM
could this all be one big strawman so the eu creates anti-semitism legislation europe wide?
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 09:31:21 PM
well done hungarians then.

also note that it is not capitalism thats the problem marinesko:

The drastic austerity measures introduced on behalf of the international banking system will surely bring about major problems after mid March.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 09:39:00 PM
in the first vid u saw the flags with the holes in them sepp?
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 10:10:04 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Just watched the vid.Note the [SIZE=-1]?rp?d flags.The red/white horizontal striped flags which the jews are frothing at the mouth over.:rolleyes:
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enlighten me.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 10:29:47 PM
another good one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=related&v=cyNHfto_3E4
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 10:37:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7lomdMrlS0&mode=related&search=

this is a must see
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 10:46:28 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
the above link goes to 'broadcast yourself':confused:

its fine
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 12, 2007, 11:45:06 PM
the faces arent covered
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Gladiator on March 13, 2007, 12:42:46 AM
This Hungarian Prime Minister sounds worse than Gonzi. Why are these EU socialists cretins running around as prime Minister of this Prime Minister of that? Screwing every bit of decent European country.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on March 17, 2007, 03:35:04 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
Hungary
                                                                                                           (http://www.euronews.net/images/en/lien_video.gif)                                     (http://www.euronews.net/index.php?page=info&article=411666&lng=1#)                                                                                                     Hungarian police braced for holiday protests                                  
                                 
Hungarians are today marking the anniversary of the country's 1848 revolution, but while some are celebrating a national holiday, others are preparing a mini-revolution of their own. Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany attended a ceremony in Budapest, but his political opponents are holding rallies calling for his socialist government to quit.
 
Police are out in force and claim to have already seized stocks of home-made Molotov cocktails and firearms in raids ahead of the demonstration. The pressure is on opposition leader Viktor Orban to mobilise large numbers of protesters. Last year he failed to oust Gyurcsany, after the Prime Minister admitted he had lied to get elected. That admission sparked violent protests that lasted for two months and left 800 police and demonstrators injured.


http://www.euronews.net/index.php?page=info&article=411666&lng=1 (http://www.euronews.net/index.php?page=info&article=411666&lng=1)
The video has already been pulled Sepp!
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on March 17, 2007, 03:42:27 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
        ``It's because of you that I have to say again that we who are peaceful are more and more than the people that reject democracy,'' Demszky told a crowd standing in 16 degrees Celsius and bright sunshine. He was pelted by eggs.          
:)  hahahahahahahaha  
Hail the true Hungarians and down with the imposter parasites!
The 'situation' is  heating up.  Thanks for posting these articles Sepp.
I wonder what our own Hungarian activist is up to these days.  I don't recall his name but I do remember he posted some nationalist websites when he visited vm.org last year.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: IMPERIUM on March 17, 2007, 01:05:53 PM
3/15/2007

     David Irvings Speech to Hungarians: Let Freedom Ring! (http://www.davidduke.com/general/david-irving-let-freedom-ring_1903.html)

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David Irving with translator Gyrgy Kdr speak to a crowd of thousands at Heroes Square, Budapest 3/15/07
    Speech by David Irving, Budapest, March 15, 2007
 Action Report Online (http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/index.html)
 I BRING you greetings from all the friends of Hungary in my country England.
 From the Hungarians who live in England - and there are many who fled from the communist regime in 1956 - and from all your friends and admirers, and there are many of these too.
 There is one ugly truth and it is a bitter truth which links our two great countries: we now both have prime ministers who lie.
 One of them, my own prime minister, Tony Blair, has so far still to confess it.
 These are bad times for freedom. Perhaps one day Englishmen like me will be seeking freedom in Hungary!
 Because the lights of freedom, the right to think what we like, to say what we think, and to print and publish what we say are slowly dimming, as the ugly light of enforced socialism is dawning again.
 I know what I am saying.
 Governments do not like historians, and they like those of us who write Real History even less.
 They prefer the kind of writer they can buy with money, or bribe with knighthoods and peerages.
 You know that something is foul with your own government, when you see it bringing in two hundred foreign police troops (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/stormfront-radio-town-hall-whitaker-141878.html?p=3985797) to help it stay in power.
 You know then that your government is, in real history, in the hands of a foreign power.

 For all the 400 days that Austria held me in solitary confinement in prison in Vienna, since you last saw me here, punished for an opinion on history that I had expressed sixteen years before, the British government made no protest.
 We were once a great world power. Some powerful Hungarians even wanted to have our Lord Rothermere as the next king of Hungary!
 A great world power no longer, we have been destroyed by the foreign enemies within.
 Jack Straw was Britains foreign minister when Germany first demanded that I be turned over to them for punishment: he secretly agreed, I have seen the documents but he could not get his hands on me because I was in freedom in America. . .
 and Straw went to the same school as I! Some comrade!
 We are now all part of Europe, and one European country can mistreat any other European countrys citizens as it pleases. Petfi Sndor must be turning in his grave.
 Several of my good friends, writers like me, are in prison in Germany right now, and have been for years, because of what they wrote and believed to be true: I mention today the names only of Ernst Zndel and Germar Rudolf, the scientist.
 What hypocrisy! In todays world, the system of international law that was so painstakingly and carefully created for the Nuremberg trials is now in ruins.
 The innocent are held in jail.
 The guilty are in the seats of power. The electoral system in the democracies has been twisted and distorted to ensure that the criminals gain office - not ordinary criminals like those who walked the prison yard with me in Vienna, but the mega-criminals in the pay of Big Money and foreign powers.
 Will we ever see them in handcuffs? Dont make me laugh!
 George W Bush and Tony Blair, the leaders of the USA and Britain, launched a criminal attack on Iraq in 2003, a few months before I spoke on the last occasion at this spot (http://www.fpp.co.uk/speeches/Budapest231003.html).
 Under the rules of Nuremberg, what they did was precisely the same as what Hitler did from 1938 to 1944: they have attacked sovereign countries for their own purposes, and invented the pretext to justify their actions.
 The worlds newspapers and television stations have shamelessly trotted along beside them, applauding vigorously.
 Shall we ever see Blair and Bush hang for their crimes, which have caused the Holocaust in Iraq today?
 A Holocaust which has caused the deaths of over 600,000 innocent people, and far more if we include those killed by the sanctions campaign which preceded it
 We shall not see them hang; they even deny that this holocaust has occurred!   [SIZE=+1]Bush says he has killed only 30,000? so far in Iraq, that is his best estimate. He and Blair are the real holocaust deniers, not the historians like me.[/SIZE]
Yes, in Washington and London the guilty are in the seats of power.
 Can you tell me that it is any different now in Hungary? Are the days of Rakosi, Revai, Ger and Farkas returning?
 You tore the evil out of the heart of your Hungarian flag then. If the evil returns you must tear it out again.
 The world will never forget: You cast the first stone in 1956 that led to the end of the Soviet empire of evil.
 It is for you, the ordinary people of Hungary, to protect your freedoms, just as you paid for the worlds freedom then with your own blood.
 Szabadsag! I leave you with this message, written in the spirit of Petfi Sandor:there is one word that is even more important that freedom, for a country as small as Hungary.
 And that is Independence. Fggetlensg. Protect your independence first. Otherwise all is lost.(http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/std/dings/square.gif)
 
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[Photos of David Irvings October 2003 Hungarian tour (http://www.fpp.co.uk/Irving/photos/index_3.html)]
 
[Text of his speech at Heroes Square, October 23, 2003 (http://www.fpp.co.uk/speeches/Budapest231003.html)]
   

Israeli troops in Budapest: ready to help their fellow Jews in Govt.

Now, even the blind can see the tentacles suffocating the world.
Them! The World Enemy. The Enemy of Mankind.

Imperium

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Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Gladiator on March 17, 2007, 01:51:27 PM
Great speech by a great man. Man of priciple and a man who believes in himself and his fellow true Europeans.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Gladiator on March 17, 2007, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
I wish I was there:(
You are there Sepp. Their battle is your battle but in a different place.:p
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on March 18, 2007, 04:30:45 AM
Source (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/03/16/hungary.protests.ap/index.html)
Hungary police teargas extremists
March 16, 2007

BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) -- Hungarian police used water cannon and tear gas to repel around 1,000 skinheads and extremists in Budapest as anti-government protests marred celebrations of the country's 1848 revolution.

As night fell Thursday, rightwing protesters hurling cobblestones and bottles confronted hundreds of police in riot gear after authorities announced the detention of Gyorgy Budahazy, a man suspected of being a key figure in riots last year and who had been in hiding for months.

About 500-800 protesters tried to break through police lines to reach Budhazy, who was being held at the nearby National Investigations Office.

Police drove the protesters away from the national investigations office, where rioters initially gathered in the early evening, back into the capital's Heroes Square.

Rioters dismantled a wooden scaffolding, set up large makeshift roadblocks and lit bonfires in the street to prevent police from advancing. They also toppled several phonebooths.

By around 2100 GMT, police were able to disperse the rioters, with the last clashes taking place near several large international hotels on the banks of the River Danube.

A police spokesman said dozens of people had been detained and at least four police were injured.

Earlier, thousands of conservative protesters demanding the resignation of Socialist Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany were present at events attended by the premier and other leading officials.

Gyurcsany's presence -- outside parliament and at the National Museum -- was met by jeering and whistling.

Some protesters carried Arpad striped flags, a centuries-old Hungarian banner now associated with the Arrow Cross, a pro-Nazi party that briefly ran Hungary near the end of World War II.

At a separate memorial event held later at March 15 Square, security personnel used large black umbrellas to shield Gyurcsany, Budapest Mayor Gabor Demszky and other authorities from coins, eggs and oranges thrown from the crowd.

"Nine out of 10 Hungarians are with us ... those who don't believe in the nightmare of two opposed Hungaries eternally at war," Demszky said, his voice often drowned out by the protesters' anti-government shouts and jeers.

Fidesz, the main center-right, opposition group, drew 200,000 supporters to its own late afternoon commemoration, according to state news agency MTI.

The crowd was much bigger than some expected considering government warnings about extremists plotting to disrupt Thursday's events with attacks against parliament and other prominent targets.

"We feel absolutely safe here," said Pal Tetlak, 70, who attended the rally. "The problem is that the political situation is hopeless."
Higher taxes

Fidesz leader Viktor Orban, a former prime minister, said a planned referendum later this year would give voters a chance to reject some of the government's policies.

"We have to make clear that in a democracy, people have the right to send away the government ... if it does not respect their will," Orban told the crowd, blaming the "new aristocracy government" for the country's problems.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 18, 2007, 10:47:32 AM
i just read irvings speech, excellent.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 18, 2007, 10:55:18 AM
Quote from: Neverwinter
Source (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/03/16/hungary.protests.ap/index.html)
Hungary police teargas extremists
March 16, 2007

BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) -- Hungarian police used water cannon and tear gas to repel around 1,000 skinheads and extremists in Budapest as anti-government protests marred celebrations of the country's 1848 revolution.

As night fell Thursday, rightwing protesters hurling cobblestones and bottles confronted hundreds of police in riot gear after authorities announced the detention of Gyorgy Budahazy, a man suspected of being a key figure in riots last year and who had been in hiding for months.

About 500-800 protesters tried to break through police lines to reach Budhazy, who was being held at the nearby National Investigations Office.

Police drove the protesters away from the national investigations office, where rioters initially gathered in the early evening, back into the capital's Heroes Square.

Rioters dismantled a wooden scaffolding, set up large makeshift roadblocks and lit bonfires in the street to prevent police from advancing. They also toppled several phonebooths.

By around 2100 GMT, police were able to disperse the rioters, with the last clashes taking place near several large international hotels on the banks of the River Danube.

A police spokesman said dozens of people had been detained and at least four police were injured.

Earlier, thousands of conservative protesters demanding the resignation of Socialist Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany were present at events attended by the premier and other leading officials.

Gyurcsany's presence -- outside parliament and at the National Museum -- was met by jeering and whistling.

Some protesters carried Arpad striped flags, a centuries-old Hungarian banner now associated with the Arrow Cross, a pro-Nazi party that briefly ran Hungary near the end of World War II.

At a separate memorial event held later at March 15 Square, security personnel used large black umbrellas to shield Gyurcsany, Budapest Mayor Gabor Demszky and other authorities from coins, eggs and oranges thrown from the crowd.

"Nine out of 10 Hungarians are with us ... those who don't believe in the nightmare of two opposed Hungaries eternally at war," Demszky said, his voice often drowned out by the protesters' anti-government shouts and jeers.

Fidesz, the main center-right, opposition group, drew 200,000 supporters to its own late afternoon commemoration, according to state news agency MTI.

The crowd was much bigger than some expected considering government warnings about extremists plotting to disrupt Thursday's events with attacks against parliament and other prominent targets.

"We feel absolutely safe here," said Pal Tetlak, 70, who attended the rally. "The problem is that the political situation is hopeless."
Higher taxes

Fidesz leader Viktor Orban, a former prime minister, said a planned referendum later this year would give voters a chance to reject some of the government's policies.

"We have to make clear that in a democracy, people have the right to send away the government ... if it does not respect their will," Orban told the crowd, blaming the "new aristocracy government" for the country's problems.

you may make a new article out of the phrases i highlighted and it will say the same thing from the authors perspective.

propaganda.

hungarian protesters are rabid nazis. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on March 20, 2007, 03:41:03 AM
Source (http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/eastern_europe/14710)
Hungarian PM warns of escalating anti-Semitism in his country
04/Mar/2007

BUDAPEST (EJP)--- Hungarian Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany warned that anti-Semitism has escalated in Hungary since the demonstrations against the Socialist-led government last year.

In an interview with The Times newspaper, Gyurcsany accused Viktor Orban, leader of the main right wing opposition Fiesz party of exploiting anti-Semitism in an attempt to derail his government?s modernisation programme.

?There is something horrible happening. There have never been so many anti-Semitic remarks as now,? the Prime Minister said.


Gyurcsany and his coalition of Socialists and Free Democrats survived street protest demonstrations in September and October last year touched off by the leaking of a tape in which the Prime Minister admitted lying about the parlous state of the economy to win national election in April.

My wife Klara Dobrey is a lecturer ?My wife Klara Dobrey is a lecturer at the department of law at Budapest University. Last week she left the central building of the university, and she was handed a leaflet the likes of which we have never seen in the last 50 years in Hungary. It is very clear and unambiguous anti-Semitic pamphlet," Gyurcs?ny said, adding this did not only outrage him because his wife is of Jewish descent.


He said that during the demonstrations, a list of 50 allegedly Jewish politicians was read out in Kossuth square behind the Parliament. An hour later Fidesz politicians went up on the same stage.


Gyurcsany accused members of the Fidesz party of appearing on the same platform afterwards and failing to distance themselves.

Fidesz officials denied to the Times the accusations of anti-Semitism and accused the government of using scare tactics to frighten their supporters.

In the interview, the Hungarian Prime Minister also warned that Eastern Europe, from Poland to the Balkans, could embrace radical nationalism as the region shies away from urgently needed reforms.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 20, 2007, 07:45:36 AM
whining so the eu gets involved/pushes through a europe-wide anti-semitism law
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: IMPERIUM on March 20, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
3. EU border agency ready for summertime sea patrols - 20.03.2007 -  09:16
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The  European Union's border security agency Frontex has collected enough boats  and aircraft to run operations in the Mediterranean where the influx of  African migrants arriving by sea are expected to increase as the  summer
nears.

http://euobserver.com/9/23738/?rk=1 (http://euobserver.com/9/23738/?rk=1)

"collected enough boats and aircraft to run operations..."
The EU as a pauper organisation, collecting alms from a grudging, divided and dithering bunch of Nation States.
Hence Imperium Europa to implement a sealed border policy and a rapid, repatriation programme.

Imperium
0703
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on March 21, 2007, 03:19:25 AM
I am a bit late on posting this one.  - Neverwinter - :p
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Source (http://www.budapesttimes.hu/index.php?do=article&id=2261&issue=130)
Holocaust denier guest of honour
Budapest, March 12, 2007

Notorious revisionist historian David Irving, who was released last December from an Austrian jail after serving 13 months for breaking that countrys laws on Holocaust denial, is to speak in Budapest on Monday, 12 March. He is here at the invitation of his Hungarian publishers, Gede Brothers, to promote the Hungarian version of his latest work Nuremberg - The Last Battle. Sndor Gede told news agency MTI last Thursday that Irving plans to attend book signings in several towns around Hungary.
MIPs guest of honour
The extreme nationalist Hungarian Justice and Life Party (MIP) said on its website that Irving will be guest of honour at its rally on Hsk tere on 15 March.
Irving famously published the first major work by a western historian on the 1956 Hungarian Uprising that included interviews with many protagonists. Although his work, Uprising - One Nations Tragedy was well received in some quarters upon publication in 1981, it has since drawn criticism for its one-sided portrayal of events. In particular, it presents the revolution as an anti-Jewish reaction by the population.
He precipitated a scandal during a previous visit to Budapest in October 2003 when he came to promote the new Hungarian language edition of the book. At the invitation of party leader Istvn Csurka, he spoke at a rally on Hsk tere organised by MIP. Another notable speaker at the event was leader of the extreme right-wing French National Front, Jean Marie Le Pen.

 
Flashpoint before
A subsequent edition of panel discussion programme jjeli Menedk (Night Shelter) on Hungarian Television (MTV) aired an interview with Irving at the MIP rally in which he characterised the first two days of the 1956 revolution as a popular anti-Jewish pogrom. This Irving broadcast was cited as the last straw that led to the right-leaning programme being taken permanently off the air.
MIP-led demonstrators took to the streets in support of the Night Shelter programme. Viktor Orbn, leader of centre-right opposition party FIDESZ commented I find it worrying that this is not the first occasion upon which programmes supporting national civic or Christian values have been attacked in this atrocious way.
Irvings return to Budapest, where he will give a talk in the Szab Dezs Sznhz on Szabadsg tr at 6pm on 12 March, comes at a time when issues of anti-Semitism and xenophobia are once again colouring Hungarian politics and the media.
 
Jews advised to stay at home
Reuters reported last Thursday that Pter Feldmjer, head of Hungarian Jewish organisation Mazsihisz, is warning Jews to stay away from 15 March celebrations. We are advising people, especially if they are elderly not to go out, Feldmjer told Reuters. If you followed the events, they constantly blamed Jews for all Hungarys problems with the harshest words, he added, referring to the violent anti-government demonstrations last year, in which contingents of extreme right-wing organisations were highly visible.
Robert Hodgson
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on March 21, 2007, 03:26:42 AM
Quote from: Neverwinter

He precipitated a scandal
during a previous visit to Budapest in October 2003 when he came to promote the new Hungarian language edition of the book.
 
Hmmm...why is it a 'scandal' to document your research and publish it as a book?
:confused:
Is it always a 'scandal' when Judean is shown in a bad light by research?  Is it always 'pseudo scientific' when science and reason are used to prove that elements of Judean are promoting huge lies as well?  Imprisonment and destruction of careers is the specialty of Judean.  I have learned their modus operandi well.

If only the scales would fall from my kinsmans' eyes...
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: marco polo on March 21, 2007, 10:08:11 AM
Quote from: Neverwinter
Hmmm...why is it a 'scandal' to document your research and publish it as a book?
:confused:
Is it always a 'scandal' when Judean is shown in a bad light by research?  Is it always 'pseudo scientific' when science and reason are used to prove that elements of Judean are promoting huge lies as well?  Imprisonment and destruction of careers is the specialty of Judean.  I have learned their modus operandi well.

If only the scales would fall from my kinsmans' eyes...

he is now also known as "notorious" neverwinter. next he will be called "anti-semite",  "racist" and then "neo-nazi" and thus the dirtying of his name will be complete.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Sepp44 on April 26, 2007, 10:43:58 PM
Would the honourable Fidesz member be including the Roma ?What a hare brained scheme.:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Sepp44 on April 26, 2007, 11:04:31 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
i know.  amazing!  i have 1 kid so i get 1 vote.  juicy lucy has 10 so she has more voting rights than i do :eek:

A daft scheme like that would suit Gonzo and the Gonzocons(I stole that word:eek:).Maltese citizenship for the grateful klandos who dutifully repay the Gonzocons with their 10 votes per family.ie 1 man ,1 woman and eight sprogs.Yes,Gonzo would rool Malta for life.

Urghhh!What a prospect.What a thought!:(

Remember!Statistically,the coloureds are outbreeding the European whites by 4 or 5 to 1.:eek:
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Sepp44 on August 21, 2007, 11:16:44 PM
European Jewish Congress and World Jewish Congress Presidents Urge Hungarian Government to Take Action Against New Extreme-Right Militia                                                                                    (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/IMG/arton931.jpg)              (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=931#)                                                                
                                                   
                                                                                                                                                    Tuesday,                      August 21, 2007                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                               
                             World Jewish Congress president Ronald S. Lauder and European Jewish Congress president Moshe Kantor have called the planned formation of an armed guard replete with pro-Nazi symbols within the extreme-right Hungarian movement ?Jobbik Magyarorsz?g?rt Mozgalom? [Movement for the Better Hungary] an "extremely alarming development."
 In a joint letter to Hungary?s prime minister Ferenc Gyurscany, Lauder and Kantor wrote that the "impending creation of an armed guard, under the false guise of ?sporting and shooting clubs?, with uniforms resembling those worn by fascists in World War II," was a danger to democracy and had to be stopped.
 They urged Gyurscany to do his "urgent utmost to see to it that any political party which manifests expressions of hatred and bigotry, whether by speech, threats to arm, and other incitements to racial violence, is stopped."
 The Magyar Garda (Hungarian Guard) will apparently be formed at a swearing-in ceremony at Buda Castle on 25 August by party leaders. The guard?s founder, Gabor Vona, has claimed that 300 people have applied to join the group, but numbers would increase to at least 1,000 by the end of the year.
 The uniforms of the guards will reportedly carry the red and white Arpad stripes used by the pro-Nazi ?Arrow Cross? movement during World War II, whose members murdered thousands of Jews and were involved in the deportation of hundreds of thousands to the Nazi death camps.
 Lauder and Kantor wrote that as a member of the European Union and the Council of Europe, the Hungarian government should "immediately take all the necessary steps to ban this threat."
 Jobbik Magyarorsz?g?rt Mozgalom is not represented in the national parliament but has representatives on several local councils.

http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=931
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on August 22, 2007, 02:29:27 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
European Jewish Congress and World Jewish Congress Presidents Urge Hungarian Government to Take Action Against New Extreme-Right Militia

http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=931 (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=931)
If Judean is excited/bothered then I am convinced it must not be a really bad thing.  LOL  Funny how the Jewish organizations push their vision of a nation that is not theirs.  They do it at the expense of the indiginous population, and brainwash those who are rightful heirs to the nation, to support their agenda of destruction.  Their actions/finished product is no better than their disgusting 'art'.  Speak of 'diversity' and the like.  It is nothing more than control of a people.  What right does a Jew have to suggest/advise (in reality it is dictate) the direction in which a nation goes unless that nation is indeed Jewish!  Judean must have it their way or they will destroy you.  Hell!!!...even if they have it their way they still destroy you!  Two sides of the same coin comrades.  Both paths lead to the same destination.  Jewish domination of a nation.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Sepp44 on August 23, 2007, 12:58:21 AM
Quote from: Neverwinter
  LOL  Funny how the Jewish organizations push their vision of a nation that is not theirs.  

This is what Tom Lantos(an immigrant Hungarian Jew) had to say about the matter.

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Lantos: We'll ban members of the Hungarian Guard from the US

Published:  August,17 2007
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/LantosTom-Hearing.jpg)United States Representative Tom Lantos is prepared to get a list of members of the Hungarian Guard.

"The members of the Hungarian Guard are those people we would not allow to enter the US. I can personally guarantee that a list would be set up about these people and they would never enter the US." - Tom Lantos said at a press conference in Budapest, Hungary yesterday.

Tom Lantos stated that the members and founders of the Hungarian Guard are "crazy fanatics" and closely associated them with terrorists.
Lantos' speech and attack on Hungarian Guard caused uproar in Hungarian news as the threats of Lantos to exclude Hungarian citizens from entering the US are unprecedented since the cold war. Tom Lantos also demanded that centre right parties Fidesz and KDNP to condemn the Hungarian Guard, established by Jobbik president Gabor Vona.
Vona has said that the initiation ceremony of the Hungarian Guard is to be conducted by Lajos F?r, who was Defence Minister and president of the MDF in the mid 1990s. The MDF said it was shocked by F?r?s participation in the event and said that the only goal of the Hungarian Guard was to threaten the silent majority. Main right-of-centre opposition party Fidesz and its allies the Christian Democrats have so far refused to condemn the formation of the guard.


http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2_articleid=22

Lantos is neither a Hungarian or an American.He is a Jew trying to use his influence as a US senator to interfere in Hungarian domestic politics.So now this new Hungarian right wing group have AmeriKan Jews as well as 'European 'Jews clamouring for their disbandment.Who says Jews don't meddle?:mad:

Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Sepp44 on August 29, 2007, 06:48:41 PM
(http://www.jobbik.com/gallery/files/1/zsmg6.jpg)

(http://www.jobbik.com/gallery/files/1/2007-08-25T165426Z_01_NOOTR_RTRIDSP_2_OUKWD-UK-HUNGARY-FARRIGHT.jpg)


So this is why the Jews are xitting their pants.The newly formed Magyar Garda(Hungarian guard) under the auspices of the former Hungarian defence minister,Lajos Fur.Pretty cool.More pics here..
..http://www.jobbik.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=119&c= (http://www.jobbik.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=119&c=)
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Sepp44 on September 03, 2007, 12:35:39 PM
Hungarian Prime Minister Responds to EJC/WJC Criticism of Paramilitary Group                                                                       (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=935#)

Thursday,                      August 30, 2007                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                               
                             Hungarys prime minister Ferenc Gyurcsny has sent a letter to the presidents of the European Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress stating that he would keep a close eye on the far-right Jobbik partys paramilitary arm, the newly formed Magyar Garda [Hungarian Guard].
 Gyurcsnys letter was a reply to a joint appeal from the presidents of the World Jewish Congress and the European Jewish Congress, Ronald S. Lauder and Moshe Kantor, calling on him to do his utmost to prevent Jobbik from setting up an armed guard. Members of the Hungarian Guard wear black fatigues and use a flag associated with the WWII Hungarian Nazi party, which was responsible for thousands of Jewish deaths.

In his letter, Gyurcsny said he had declared a zero tolerance policy for exclusion and all forms of incitement of hatred. He added that he had asked the countrys president to voice an opinion on the matter and that he was seeking a political solution that would guarantee that far-right ideologies and movements would not find political allies or supporters in Hungary among members of the political parties with seats in parliament.

Last week, Gyurcsny had asked the countrys chief prosecutor Tamas Kovacs to closely monitor the Hungarian Guard "with special attention ... and act without delay in case of acts counter to the laws in force or the Hungarian constitution." In a letter to Kovacs, Gyurcsny wrote "I share the opinion of those who say that the creation of the Magyar Garda, based upon the facts and statements known so far, carries with it the direct danger that our most important common values may be harmed - the respect for human dignity, the right to everyday life without fear and the respect for each others culture, descent and world view."

Following reports about the WJC/EJC letter in the Hungarian press, the president of the main opposition party Fidesz and former prime minister Viktor Orbn also wrote to Lauder and Kantor, saying that his party was committed to the liberties and emancipation of individuals and their communities, including the Jewish community in Hungary, and the inviolable nature of their basic rights and freedoms., although the letter does not specifically mention the Magyar Garda.
 In a letter to Gyurcsny, WJC president Lauder and EJC president Kantor had called the guard formation an extremely alarming development. They wrote that the impending creation of an armed guard, under the false guise of sporting and shooting clubs, with uniforms resembling those worn by fascists in World War II, was a danger to democracy and had to be stopped. The WJC and EJC presidents urged Gyurcsny to do his urgent utmost to see to it that any political party which manifests expressions of hatred and bigotry, whether by speech, threats to arm, and other incitements to racial violence, is stopped.

On 25 August the Hungarian Guard held a public swearing-in ceremony at Buda Castle, where Hungarys president resides. The guards founder, Gabor Vona, said 300 people had applied to join the group. Fifty-six were reportedly sworn in at the ceremony. The uniforms of the guards carry the red and white Arpad stripes used by the pro-Nazi Arrow Cross movement during World War II, whose members killed thousands of Jews and were involved in the deportation of hundreds of thousands to the Nazi death camps. Lauder and Kantor wrote that as a member of the European Union and the Council of Europe, the Hungarian government should immediately take all the necessary steps to ban this threat. Jobbik is not represented in the national parliament but has representatives on several local councils.

In Brussels, the chairman of the European Socialist Party issued a statement condemning the setting up of the Hungarian Guard. Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, a former prime minister of Denmark, called on the conservative European Peoples Party to issue a similar statement. Hungarys culture minister Istvan Hiller called on the Catholic, the Calvinist and the Lutheran churches to publicly declare their dissociation from the three church representatives who had blessed the flags of the Hungarian Guard at the swearing-in ceremony. So far, all the three churches have said is that none of them sent representatives to the event. The deputy leader of the main opposition Fidesz, Zoltan Pokorni, said that the only real beneficiary of the establishment of the Hungarian Guard was Ferenc Gyurcsny, because the wave of protests sidetracked people from current burning problems in Hungarian the economy. Pokorni said he did not know whether the Hungarian Guard was the brainchild of "well-meaning but thoughtless people," or "the deliberate calculation of built in provocateurs."

http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=935 (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=935)
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: oebalus on September 03, 2007, 03:17:34 PM
Obedient servants serving their bosses. Pleading mea culpas and promissing better performance  of their functions to their paymasters.
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on September 03, 2007, 03:43:22 PM
Godspeed to the Magyar Garda!  Hateful Jews and petty traitorous socialists want to control everything.  Nothing new...
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Gladiator on September 03, 2007, 03:54:27 PM
Time to kick butt. Men! Malta should have one too. We shall call it;
 
Kaccaturi Bla Sniter.
:p :p :p :p
(Hunters Without Guns)
Title: Hundreds Take Oath in Far-Right Guard
Post by: Gladiator on October 21, 2007, 06:48:39 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071021/wl_nm/hungary_farright_dc_1 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071021/wl_nm/hungary_farright_dc_1)
 
Hundreds join Hungary far-right "guard"
 
By David Chance
 
 
BUDAPEST (Reuters) - Six hundred people, wearing black uniforms and insignia which critics say are reminiscent of the Nazi era, took an oath of loyalty on Sunday to defend Hungary as members of a far-right "guard."
 
The Hungarian Guard was launched in August with 56 members and drew widespread criticism because of its uniform and use of a red-and-white striped flag linked to the fascist Arrow Cross regime which sent hundreds of thousands of Jews to death camps.
 
The guard, backed by the far-right Jobbik political party, denies it is anti-Semitic and says it is a civic group which wants to preserve Hungarian culture.
"The Guard has 5,000 candidates to join," Jobbik spokesman Levente Jonas told journalists at the rally which attracted several thousand supporters, who watched the guard's new members march up Budapest's main thoroughfare to its main square.
Far-right groups and the opposition are preparing for new anti-government protests a year after widespread rioting on the 50th anniversary of Hungary's 1956 uprising against Soviet rule.
 
Despite weeks of violent protests last year and the prospect of tens of thousands of people attending opposition rallies on October 23, Socialist Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany remains firmly in control and is implementing economic reforms.
Even though far-right groups like Jobbik have prospered in the wake of the riots, they win only a fraction of the votes cast in elections and are not represented in parliament.
 
The government says the main opposition Fidesz party has abetted their rise, something Fidesz denies.
Gyurcsany has compared the rise of the guard to that of Hitler's brownshirts in 1930s Germany, while Mazsihisz, a Jewish group, said the outfits were "similar to the point of deception to the uniforms of the Fascist movements of the 1940s."
Political analysts say the guard's target is probably not Jews, but Hungary's substantial Roma (gypsy) population, numbering around 600,000 of the country's 10 million people.
"Many people say their main topic is anti-Semitism, but it is their anti-Roma base... (and stoking) the conflict between Roma and non-Roma in Hungarian society. From this point of view they are dangerous," said Peter Kreko at thinktank Political Capital.
One of the guard's supporters in Sunday's crowd made clear he regarded gypsies as a problem.
"In Hungary everyone who wants order is labeled a racist ... they (Roma) live with filth and dirt and if anybody wants to do away with this then they are labeled a racist," said Istvan Szemecs, a middle-aged man carrying a red and white flag.
(Additional reporting by Sandor Peto, Krisztina Fenyo)
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on October 21, 2007, 07:19:41 PM
Admin:

Please merge this thread (http://www.vivamalta.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8082)
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Sepp44 on October 22, 2007, 02:34:36 PM
I think this has now been done Neverwinter.After spending this last week in Hungary,it was interesting to note the many anti govt rallies taking place all over Hungary on a daily basis.Hungarian TV nightly is showing footage of last years protests in Hungary and featuring many of the individuals that were severly injured by the Hungarian police([SIZE=-1] Rend?rs?g) or were they the masked Israeli/Jewish thugs masquerading as Hungarian police?

One chap who had lost his left eye after being shot in the face by a rubber bullet.One man that had lost his thumb and a finger after it had been crushed.Women with stiches and scars on their heads and faces.Where was the international condemnation?The last scenes that I can recall happening in a European country in this manner were the Belfast riots of the 70's where British troops were under siege on a daily basis but then again Belfast of the 70's is not 21st century Budapest where Jews rule the roost.

Taxation of ordinary consumer goods rises constantly.The Hungarian govt defends the states oil/gas company,MOL,from hostile takeovers yet ordinary Hungarians are increaingly being forced to buy their clothes in second hand shops that are springing up thick and fast all over the country.Pawn shops do brisk business.Either from Hungarians cahing in their heirlooms for food money or from the Roma gypsies peddling stolen jewellry and porcelain.Homeless folk are on the increase as are beggars.Roving gangs of Roma flogging stolen power tools.TESCO selling 'Hungarian' products made in China......eughh!If it's not 'EU' produced,don't buy it.Save European cottage industries.Save European culture.Save ourselves.

Modern Hungarian youth is bedazzled by the latest electronic gadgetry or MTV promoted 'black is cool' look.Consumerism is king.Hungary needs a Magyar Garda(Hungarian Guard).Who else is going to help Hungary?The Jooze??????:mad:
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Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Neverwinter on October 23, 2007, 01:20:15 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
I think this has now been done Neverwinter.After spending this last week in Hungary,it was interesting to note the many anti govt rallies taking place all over Hungary on a daily basis.Hungarian TV nightly is showing footage of last years protests in Hungary and featuring many of the individuals that were severly injured by the Hungarian police([SIZE=-1] Rend?rs?g) or were they the masked Israeli/Jewish thugs masquerading as Hungarian police?

If it's not 'EU' produced,don't buy it.Save European cottage industries.Save European culture.Save ourselves.

Modern Hungarian youth is bedazzled by the latest electronic gadgetry or MTV promoted 'black is cool' look.Consumerism is king.Hungary needs a Magyar Garda(Hungarian Guard).Who else is going to help Hungary?The Jooze??????:mad:
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My friend, it has been my hope that Eastern Europe would not fall prey to the lies promoted by the Judean controlled mass media but it was a naive hope.  I knew better but I still hoped that perhaps they would fare better due to a different upbringing and history.  Judean knows how to destroy very well.  They are the destroyers!  It is the same scenario all over the European world.  Eastern Europe was simply a few decades behind Western Europe and they are quickly catching up.  We need a cataclysm if we are to have a chance to save Europe.  The slow but steady death of Europe is going exactly to plan.
:mad:
Title: Re: Budapest under Israeli Occupation?
Post by: Sepp44 on October 27, 2007, 08:20:55 AM
Curfew in Budapest?          
                                                On the 23rd October, the biggest opposition party, Fidesz will hold a mass-commemoration of 1956 at Astoria, where police brutally dispersed and injured demonstrators last year. They plan to march down to the House of Terrors in Budapest later that day. *

*

On the 26th October, independent nationalist newsportal kuruc.info organising a closure of the Erzsebet Bridge, the busiest bridge in Budapest. This demonstration is not reported to the police and most likely will be dispersed by the police, unless the number of demonstrators and their followres will make this just a little bit too hard to do. *

*

*

Backgound*

*

There is the same script for government communication that was used in 1956, 2006 and early 2007. They don?t even bother changing the lines of a 51 year old script. After 1956, the communist government blamed the uprising on fascist, right-wing groups whom terrorised the peaceful majority of Hungary. In 2006, the pro-communist government blame the demonstrations on fascist, right-wing groups whom terrorising the peaceful majority of Hungary. Is there anyone who still believes the lies of PM Gyurcsany?s government?* *

*

Government communication had been predicting "extremist groups and terrosist organisations to start rioting" months before October 2007, in a fear that the events of autumn 2006 would be repeated when masses of people demsontrated against the government. The demonstrations last year were sparkled by a leaked tape where*PM Gyurcsany admitted that he had been lying to the people to win the election. *

*

The demonstrations in 2006 were dispersed by the police brutally, leaving 100's of people with serious wounds and injuries, half dozens lost one of their eyes when police illegally fired rubber bullets into the crowd at head height.**Although more than 170 complaints were made against the police following the events in September-October 2006, no police leader has been charged or questioned over the illegal use of rubber bullets, steel batons that caused extreme injuries and the anonymousity of police officers who wore masks with no identification. The complete lack of identification made it next to impossible to identify those police officers who committed the mad atrocities against the demonstrators.*

*

Thousands of people marched in the streets of Budapest in March 2007, risking the same, brutal police actions that happened in 2006. The demonstrations were again dispersed. The pro-communist socialist government have stricktened legislations since, greatly limiting the right to freedom of speech and to demonstrate in public. Measures have been taken that Hungary only seen back in the 1950?s, after 1956.* *

http://www.jobbik.com/forum/showthread.php?p=177#post177
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on October 27, 2007, 08:40:02 AM
600 new members for the Magyar Garda(Hungarian guard).This movement appears to be moving fast.

(http://www.jobbik.com/gallery/files/1/000236725_11_jpg_jpg_gal.jpg)

http://www.jobbik.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=139&catid=newimages
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on October 27, 2007, 09:02:22 AM
Meanwhile the cabals response to the Magyar Garda.

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Hungarian Far-Right Militia Swears in New Members as Violence Erupts in Budapest                                                                                    (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/IMG/arton971.jpg)              (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=971#)                                                                
                                                                                                                                                                                                       Wednesday,                      October 24, 2007                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                               
                             Hungarian Jewish groups, along with other members of civil society, have harshly criticized the swearing in of 600 youths to a paramilitary extreme-right group, the ?Hungarian Guard,? in a background of rising nationalist violence in Budapest.
 On the 21st of October, 600 new members of the Hungarian guard were sworn to ?defend Hungary,? to this militia created by the extreme-right group - which is not represented in Parliament - Jobbik. The uniforms of the guards carry the red and white Arpad stripes used by the pro-Nazi ?Arrow Cross? movement during World War II, whose members murdered thousands of Jews and were involved in the deportation of hundreds of thousands to the Nazi death camps. Mazsihisz, the Federation of Jewish Communities in Hungary, harshly criticized its formation.
 Meanwhile, the capital Budapest has seen mounting violence the past days as extreme-right nationalists take to the streets on the anniversary of the 1956 Hungarian revolution against the Soviet Union. The clashes between the nationalist demonstrators and police force have against caused worry for the Jewish community of Hungary, as the current violence recalls the protest movement that began in October 2006 by the extreme right, which saw the usage of Nazi-era symbols and anti-Semitic discourse from among the protestors.
 According to press reports, members of Jobbik and the Hungarian guard were among the protestors on the streets of Budapest.
 As the news broke of the planned swearing-in of new militia members in August of this year, the European Jewish Congress the World Jewish Congress wrote Hungary?s prime minister Ferenc Gyurscany, stating that "the impending creation of an armed guard, under the false guise of ?sporting and shooting clubs?, with uniforms resembling those worn by fascists in World War II," was a danger to democracy and had to be stopped.
 In a response, Gyurcs?ny told the EJC/WJC that he had declared a ?zero tolerance? policy for exclusion and all forms of incitement of hatred. He added that he had asked the country?s president to voice an opinion on the matter and that he was seeking a political solution that would guarantee that far-right ideologies and movements would not find political allies or supporters in Hungary among members of the political parties with seats in parliament. The Prime Minister also asked the country?s chief prosecutor Tamas Kovacs to closely monitor the Hungarian Guard "with special attention ... and act without delay in case of acts counter to the laws in force or the Hungarian constitution."
 When asked if violence could erupt again, Gabor Vona, the leader Jobbik and founder of the Hungarian Guard, said : "I can imagine that. Gyurcsany?s speech last year [when he admitted to lying] set things alight. It could happen again if there was a spark. The anger and feeling of being cheated are still there, absolutely."
 
http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=971 (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=971)


I must in all honesty say that during the period referred to by the EJC,the few days prior to the inauguration,whilst I was in Hungary and Budapest,I saw no reports on Hungarian TV of 'right wing extremist' violence on any street's anywhere in Hungary.No such news was reported by the media.The EJC's claims of violent conduct by supporters of Jobbik is fallacious in my opinion.

As is usual by the EJC and many other Jewish organisations,sensationalism,false flags and fear mongering appear to be the order of the day.The usual accusations without substance by the minority cabal that pull strings in the Brussels parliament.
The cabal that is the European Jewish Congress represents no country.The EJC represent's the Jewish people and their responsibility is to further Jewish interests in Europe and to further the interests of Israel.
The prime minister of Hungary,Gyurcsany is a Jew as is the majority of the Hungarian parliament and the chief of police.These people are the sons and daughters of the former ruling bolshevik communists that ruled Hungary with an iron fist prior to the fall of Communism in Central Europe.They continue the legacy of their parents.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Stephen Farrugia on October 27, 2007, 08:55:23 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Meanwhile the cabals response to the Magyar Garda.
 
 
 
I must in all honesty say that during the period referred to by the EJC,the few days prior to the inauguration,whilst I was in Hungary and Budapest,I saw no reports on Hungarian TV of 'right wing extremist' violence on any street's anywhere in Hungary.No such news was reported by the media.The EJC's claims of violent conduct by supporters of Jobbik is fallacious in my opinion.
 
As is usual by the EJC and many other Jewish organisations,sensationalism,false flags and fear mongering appear to be the order of the day.The usual accusations without substance by the minority cabal that pull strings in the Brussels parliament.
The cabal that is the European Jewish Congress represents no country.The EJC represent's the Jewish people and their responsibility is to further Jewish interests in Europe and to further the interests of Israel.
The prime minister of Hungary,Gyurcsany is a Jew as is the majority of the Hungarian parliament and the chief of police.These people are the sons and daughters of the former ruling bolshevik communists that ruled Hungary with an iron fist prior to the fall of Communism in Central Europe.They continue the legacy of their parents.

Why not go and join them? I am sure the uniform will look good on you.
 
(http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/IMG/arton971.jpg)  (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=971#)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on October 27, 2007, 10:49:40 PM
Quote from: 4000 votes
Why not go and join them? I am sure the uniform will look good on you.
 
(http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/IMG/arton971.jpg)  (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=971#)

cut the crap please! No one needs it.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Neverwinter on October 27, 2007, 11:13:14 PM
Quote from: 4000 votes
Why not go and join them? I am sure the uniform will look good on you.
 
(http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/IMG/arton971.jpg)  (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=971#)
If I was in Hungary I would join!
:)
That is of course if they would have me....
;)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on November 06, 2007, 01:56:02 AM
Outside of Israel,I think Hungary is the only European country that has a govt that is so heavily dominated by Jews.Although many EU nations are influenced by outside Jewish pressure groups like the European Jewish Congress,none are plagued by as many governmental ministers of Jewish origin as Hungary.

There is a current problem in the United Kingdom wherein British born Pakistanis now declare themselves to be Muslim first and British second.They make no bones about this.They are very candid.Jews ,in my opinion think and act in an almost identical manner.Wherever they be,they are Jewish first and other nationality second.

Is this a problem for Hungary?Yes.I don't think the Prime minister sees himself as a 'Hungarian'.Far from it.Hungarians are hostile to him(apart from the fact that he is a self confessed liar).Any man of any moral fibre would have resigned his position given that he obtained said position fraudulently.A liar is a liar is a liar ad nauseum.What does this reveal of the character of the man?In that he is Jewish.....nothing.It is part of the Jewish make up.Talmudic teaching.There is no sin in lying to the goyim.This is the Jewish way,so why should [SIZE=-1]Gyurcsny[/SIZE] worry about what Hungarians think of him.His circle of friends is above that of the mere insignificant Hungarian peasant.

Jobbik and their Magyar Garda send out a powerful message in their symbolic uniforms.Very splendid I think.The European Jews think otherwise.'Nazi's' they cry at the top of their collective voices.What do the Jews really fear?What are they trying to hide?Maybe it is that their lies have bought them the power that they have today.Their positions of authority.Their media control.Is there not one European newspaper not touched by Jewish hands?As for now,free thinking Europeans,we are well aware of the hopeless state of the American media and it's total dominance by Jews.

Would Hungary have allowed the Americans to site part of their so called missile defence shield on Hungarian soil if it wasn't for the American neo cons and a Jewish Hungarian prime minister?Hungary and the West,because of future energy supplies does not need to be making enemies with Russia.Currently,the worlds Jewish media is in total overdrive in trying to demonise Russia,Vladimir Putin and anyone and anything else that does not tow the Jewish/neo con line.Iraq,Afghanistan and Iran are testimony to this arrogant unilateral Jewish behaviour.

Jobbik must go to the people on the street.Speak to them.Fidesz,Jobbik and the right must win the day.Hungary must not become the 'Israel' of Europe (although Germany is not faring too badly in this department).This is what President Ahmenejad of Iran told the Israelis.Your 'holocaust' happened in Europe.Leave the Middle East and take your 'holocaust' lies to Europe.Jewish lies upon which the bandit state of Israel was built.And it will be more Jewish lies that will be built upon by the Jew[SIZE=-1] Gyurcsny[/SIZE] to turn beautiful Hungary into another Jewish shit hole like Israel with it's decadence,criminality,pornographic filth,homosexuality,multiculturalism(except for the racist Jews of course) and other social ills that befall today's modern world.

http://www.jobbik.com/forum/showthread.php?p=189#post189 (http://www.jobbik.com/forum/showthread.php?p=189#post189)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on November 06, 2007, 02:04:53 AM
Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research

                                                    Opposition Fidesz Gets Stronger in Hungary

              October 29, 2007
                                                    (http://www.angus-reid.com/upimg/hun_1029.jpg)      
      Abstract: (Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Hungary?s major opposition party has gained support from the country?s decided voters, according to a poll by Median. 58 per cent of respondents would back the Hungarian Citizens Party (Fidesz) in the next legislative election, up four points since September.   (http://www.angus-reid.com/images/premium3.jpg)
      (Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Hungary?s major opposition party has gained support from the country?s decided voters, according to a poll by Median. 58 per cent of respondents would back the Hungarian Citizens Party (Fidesz) in the next legislative election, up four points since September.
  The ruling Hungarian Socialist Party (MSZP) is second with 32 per cent, followed by the Hungarian Democratic Forum (MDF) with two per cent, and the Alliance of Free Democrats (SZDS) also with two per cent.
  Hungarian voters renewed their National Assembly in April 2006. The MSZP and the SZDSZ secured 210 of the legislative branch?s 386 seats, securing a full term for Socialist prime minister Ferenc Gyurcsany. Fidesz, led by Viktor Orban, elected 164 lawmakers. In June 2006, Gyurcsany introduced a fiscal "austerity package" of state subsidy reductions and tax increases, aimed at lowering the country?s fiscal deficit.
  In September 2006, Gyurcsany was criticized after Hungary?s state radio aired portions of an audiotape?which had been recorded in May?in which he told members of the MSZP that his administration "lied throughout the past one and a half or two years" about the state of the country?s economy in order to win re-election. The prime minister?s words sparked a two-week riot that threatened to end his government.
  On Oct. 26, finance minister Janos Veres vowed to keep Hungary?s budget deficit under control until the next election, expected to take place in 2010. Veres declared: "In the past 20 years, the state has not been transformed into a modern state. A high budget deficit has appeared cyclically at the end of each four-year term." The finance minister promised that this time it will be different, due to a series of reforms to the health, education, pension and social welfare systems introduced by the current government.
  Polling Data  
  If an election were held today, what party would you support?
(Decided Voters)  
                                                                    Oct. 2007            
                                                    Sept. 2007            
                                                    Aug. 2007              
                                                                      Hungarian Citizens Party (Fidesz)              
                                                    58%              
                                                    54%              
                                                    57%              
                                                                      Hungarian Socialist Party (MSZP)              
                                                    32%              
                                                    35%              
                                                    32%              
                                                                      Hungarian Democratic Forum (MDF)              
                                                    2%              
                                                    3%              
                                                    5%              
                                                                      Alliance of Free Democrats (SZDSZ)              
                                                    2%              
                                                    3%              
                                                    4%              
                              Source: Median
Methodology: Interviews with 1,200 Hungarian adults, conducted from Oct. 5 to Oct. 9, 2007. No margin of error was provided.


http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/opposition_fidesz_gets_stronger_in_hungary/ (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/opposition_fidesz_gets_stronger_in_hungary/)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on December 15, 2007, 02:19:36 AM
Quote
Hungarian Jewish community refuses to attend Hungarian Presidential dinner                                                                                                (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=985#)
                                                               
                                                   
                   

 (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=985#)
                                                                                                                                 Monday,                      December 10, 2007                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                               
                             In protest of the recent veto by Hungarian President L?szl? Solyom applied to the new anti-hate law which was passed by the Hungarian Parliament, the leaders of the Jewish Community of Hungary decided to abstain from the annual dinner hosted by the president for the leaders of the various faiths in Hungary. Following this veto, Hungarian President sent the bill for further legal examination by Constitutional Court to verify that it does not unduly restrict free speech.
 ?Hungarian Jewry has been waiting for years to stop the strengthening of the voices of hatred by legal prohibition, to stop the rude verbal attacks against Jewry and other minorities?, wrote President of the Federation of Jewish Communities in Hungary Dr. P?ter Feldm?jer in a letter co-signed by former national Chief Rabbi Schweitzer J?zsef and managing director Guszt?v Zoltai, ?The law accepted by the Parliament, would have given an opportunity to file civil lawsuits against the hate behaviour, had realized part of our expectations.
 We are aggrieved to hear that the Honourable President impeded the early coming into operation of this law. We would have certainly expressed our point of view personally before coming to a decision, but unfortunately we were not consulted?.



http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=985 (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=985)

I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow the house down!Jews don't get their own way so they behave like spoiled brats.Jews in Hungary disrespect the Hungarian president.Do they place themselves above non Jewish Hungarians?:mad:Maybe the Jews in Hungary would be better off going to Israel where they belong,then they wont hear naughty Hungarians saying bad things about them.:rolleyes:Whinging Jews!:mad:
 (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=985)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: IMPERIUM on December 15, 2007, 09:35:50 AM
Hungarian Jewry has been waiting for years to stop the strengthening of the voices of hatred by legal prohibition, to stop the rude verbal attacks against Jewry and other minorities, wrote President of the Federation of Jewish Communities in Hungary Dr. P?ter Feldm?jer in a letter co-signed by former national Chief Rabbi Schweitzer J?zsef and managing director Guszt?v Zoltai, The law accepted by the Parliament, would have given an opportunity to file civil lawsuits against the hate behaviour, had realized part of our expectations.
We are aggrieved to hear that the Honourable President impeded the early coming into operation of this law. We would have certainly expressed our point of view personally before coming to a decision, but unfortunately we were not consulted.

The Jews snarling and protesting and boycotting.
They want to muzzle the White Man - stop his freedom of opinion and expression.
But the tide is finally turning against them.

In Malta, the spokesman for the Jewish community, LAB -
simply filed a querela at the Paola police station against me:
for a short article critisizing Israel's policy in the ME - a political article on the internet!

The Jew said he felt aggrieved!
As if we Maltese, would feel the aggrieved party if say:
an Englishman had to write a short article on the internet critisizing Malta's hunters!

A simple walk by a hate-filled Jew to the police station and the filing of a simple report -
meant two years of court proceedings:
thousands of liri in taxpayer's money wasted, police inspectors, lawyers, magistrates, loss of time...

This is where the Jew has got us.
That hated minority, world-wide - those mischief-makers.
 The Enemy of Mankind, as the darling of the Liberals, Voltaire described them.

The Jew wants to render us Europids, defenceless, impotent.
In his psychotic mind, he reasons that eliminating, subduing the White Race:
will mean the fulfillment of his Talmud techings - world power.

Imperium
0712

Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on December 22, 2007, 04:52:54 PM
Prosecutor calls for disbanding extreme-right Hungarian Gard                                            

AFP             Updated: 17/Dec/2007 15:54                                                                                                                                                                                          

BUDAPEST (AFP)---Budapest?s prosecutor filed a request Monday to disband a recently formed Hungarian extreme-right group, accusing it of having a racist stance, a spokesman for the prosecutor?s office said.
(http://hvim-france.hautetfort.com/media/01/00/141e321111d51b9a087623b95fdc410b.jpg)

"The official letter was presented on Monday to Budapest?s municipal court, the competent authority in this case," said spokesman Attila Morvai.

The request comes eight days after the group, known as Magyar Garda or Hungarian Guard, organised an anti-gypsy rally where 260 members marched in neo-Nazi uniforms in Tatarszentgyorgy, some 70 kilometres south of Budapest.

The prosecutor?s office said the Hungarian Guard had been guilty of racial discrimination, violating human dignity and causing fear among Hungary?s gypsies or Roma, who make up about five percent of the country?s population of 10 million.

"Freedom of association cannot get in the way of another?s rights or freedom," Morvai said, adding that the prosecutor?s request was backed by several laws and international agreements.

Magyar Garda was founded in August by Jobbik, a fringe far-right political party not represented in parliament which now counts over 600 members.

Its militant anti-gay, anti-gypsy and anti-Semitic rhetoric has led Jewish and Roma rights groups, as well as politicians and civil society groups in Hungary and abroad, to call for the group?s dissolution.
http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/eastern_europe/22617
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Neverwinter on December 23, 2007, 01:30:40 AM
I will never forget the hatred that these supremacist jooze have shown toward any and all attempts to maintain Europe as European.  I will do all in my power to see the hateful kikes removed forcefully from holy Europe.  Our time comes...IE comes.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on December 23, 2007, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
if they are disbanded, won't that just drive them underground?
they must be effective if the public prosecutor wants them disbanded!

Whilst it is ok for Jews to openly boast of their pride in their own nationalistic tendencies vis a vis Israel and Jewish loyalty to the racist state of Israel,Jews worldwide and especially Jews in Europe in positions of power and authority are quick to try and stamp out and crush any form of European nationalistic tendencies wherever it may spring up.Serbia was bombed into submission and it's territories are being carved up and given to Albanian  Muslims.This does not appear to bother Europeans.

As is shown in this thread,Jews attempt to thwart Hungarian nationalism in that the Hungarians know and see who is the real threat to true and free Hungarian independence and it comes from the sons and daughters of the former Soviet communist oppressors.

Every right wing nationalistic group that pops up in Europe,whether it be Viva Malta,Germany's NPD,Swiss SVP,Belgian Vlaams Belang,Hungarian Magyar Garda or any other right wing group is quickly pounced upon by the Jews and their Goy lackeys.It's not a 'conspiracy' theory,it's real hardcore smear campaigns and outright hostility that is heaped upon European nationalists by European Jewry and their bought and paid for allies in the EU parliament and National govts.Merkel,Blair,Brown,Rasmusson,Zappatero,Prodi and the rest of the Jewish cronies all pander to Jewish whims.Each European nation endorses Jewish scripted race/hate legislation.

Well the Hungarians are fighting back!The Hungarian president threw back the Jew scripted legislation bill that threatened to put pressure and silence further Hungarian critique of Jewish dominance in Hungarian politics and the every day running of the Hungarian economy.The Jews reacted by publicly insulting the Hungarian president. Remember that Lowell allegedly insulted the Maltese president and look what's happening in his case.Do you think Lowell would be facing any charges if he were a Jew?I think not.

The Magyar Garda are expressing their freedoms in criticising the Jewish dominated Hungarian parliament and other undesirable elements within Hungary namely the parasitic,violent nasty Roma gypsies.They publicly call a spade a spade and don't cower behind Jewish inspired political correctness.After 50 years of Western European and AmeriKan sponsored Soviet communist oppression they are speaking up and fighting back.This is their God given right as free men and women.The average Western European does not realise the luxuries that they have had and squandered  since the end of WW2.They have and still are under the hypnotic glare of international Jewry.That self confessed 'Friends of Israel' group known as the British 'new' Labour group.Malta's very own,first ever Maltese head of state to be seen in public wearing the Jewish kippa when he paid homage to his masters.Gullible fool.Coward!The big Catholic whose uncle is a high ranking clerical authority in the Roman Catholic church.Has the man no dignity,no balls?

Who are these dogs bodies that dare to criticise European nationalism and worship at the alter of Yarweh?Multiculturalism....bah!A mere tool of globalist capital ambition that undermines the very survival of European national identities.From socialist hook nosed Gauls to silent boot licking Teutons.Who dares to challenge Jewish supremacism in Europe?Be proud of your race,your identity,your culture.Fight back!Speak or forever hold your tongue.Your time is now.Call a spade a spade and fear not.Europe belongs to you and not some imported wog,Muslim rebel or Jewish supremacist.These are aliens. They do not belong .Together they thwart every attempt by Europeans that seek their own national identity.Be European!Be proud !Be!
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: IMPERIUM on December 23, 2007, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
amazing and brilliant!  spoken from the heart, passionate and true.
[/I]
Quote from: etoile noir

this belongs on the front page.


Incisive and encapsulates the whole White predicament.
Exposes the real enemy behind every attack on us, Europids.
Each one of us has to do his part - Be himself!

Il-Patetiku - dak il bicca ex president tal Azzjoni Kattolika - in-neputi;
does not know that, upon entering that Lodge of Satan - he lost his soul, for eternity.
That he and all those who joined him there, will be damned forever - in the hell they believe in.

Not even his Uncle, who now burns in hell - can wash away that sacrilegous sin.
Those who set foot in that Lodge of Satan : will have to be baptised again.
Nothing else can redeem them - and let them discover this truth in their own Church's teachings.

Together, Patriots in all the White lands can vanquish that marauding tribe.
Together, a New Elite will forge an Imperium Europa - an Imperium girdling the globe.
Together, we will save the White Race and usher the Golden Dawn.

BE!

Imperium
0712
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on December 24, 2007, 02:43:31 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
Prosecutor calls for disbanding extreme-right Hungarian Gard                                            

AFP             Updated: 17/Dec/2007 15:54                                                                                                                                                                                          

BUDAPEST (AFP)---Budapests prosecutor filed a request Monday to disband a recently formed Hungarian extreme-right group, accusing it of having a racist stance, a spokesman for the prosecutors office said.
(http://hvim-france.hautetfort.com/media/01/00/141e321111d51b9a087623b95fdc410b.jpg)

"The official letter was presented on Monday to Budapests municipal court, the competent authority in this case," said spokesman Attila Morvai.

The request comes eight days after the group, known as Magyar Garda or Hungarian Guard, organised an anti-gypsy rally where 260 members marched in neo-Nazi uniforms in Tatarszentgyorgy, some 70 kilometres south of Budapest.

The prosecutors office said the Hungarian Guard had been guilty of racial discrimination, violating human dignity and causing fear among Hungarys gypsies or Roma, who make up about five percent of the countrys population of 10 million.

"Freedom of association cannot get in the way of anothers rights or freedom," Morvai said, adding that the prosecutors request was backed by several laws and international agreements.

Magyar Garda was founded in August by Jobbik, a fringe far-right political party not represented in parliament which now counts over 600 members.

Its militant anti-gay, anti-gypsy and anti-Semitic rhetoric has led Jewish and Roma rights groups, as well as politicians and civil society groups in Hungary and abroad, to call for the groups dissolution.
http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/eastern_europe/22617 (http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/eastern_europe/22617)

they should become like the old SA and start challenging the jews of society in the open.

nice to see a nation with balls.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on December 24, 2007, 02:46:56 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
Whilst it is ok for Jews to openly boast of their pride in their own nationalistic tendencies vis a vis Israel and Jewish loyalty to the racist state of Israel,Jews worldwide and especially Jews in Europe in positions of power and authority are quick to try and stamp out and crush any form of European nationalistic tendencies wherever it may spring up.Serbia was bombed into submission and it's territories are being carved up and given to Albanian  Muslims.This does not appear to bother Europeans.

As is shown in this thread,Jews attempt to thwart Hungarian nationalism in that the Hungarians know and see who is the real threat to true and free Hungarian independence and it comes from the sons and daughters of the former Soviet communist oppressors.

Every right wing nationalistic group that pops up in Europe,whether it be Viva Malta,Germany's NPD,Swiss SVP,Belgian Vlaams Belang,Hungarian Magyar Garda or any other right wing group is quickly pounced upon by the Jews and their Goy lackeys.It's not a 'conspiracy' theory,it's real hardcore smear campaigns and outright hostility that is heaped upon European nationalists by European Jewry and their bought and paid for allies in the EU parliament and National govts.Merkel,Blair,Brown,Rasmusson,Zappatero,Prodi and the rest of the Jewish cronies all pander to Jewish whims.Each European nation endorses Jewish scripted race/hate legislation.

Well the Hungarians are fighting back!The Hungarian president threw back the Jew scripted legislation bill that threatened to put pressure and silence further Hungarian critique of Jewish dominance in Hungarian politics and the every day running of the Hungarian economy.The Jews reacted by publicly insulting the Hungarian president. Remember that Lowell allegedly insulted the Maltese president and look what's happening in his case.Do you think Lowell would be facing any charges if he were a Jew?I think not.

The Magyar Garda are expressing their freedoms in criticising the Jewish dominated Hungarian parliament and other undesirable elements within Hungary namely the parasitic,violent nasty Roma gypsies.They publicly call a spade a spade and don't cower behind Jewish inspired political correctness.After 50 years of Western European and AmeriKan sponsored Soviet communist oppression they are speaking up and fighting back.This is their God given right as free men and women.The average Western European does not realise the luxuries that they have had and squandered  since the end of WW2.They have and still are under the hypnotic glare of international Jewry.That self confessed 'Friends of Israel' group known as the British 'new' Labour group.Malta's very own,first ever Maltese head of state to be seen in public wearing the Jewish kippa when he paid homage to his masters.Gullible fool.Coward!The big Catholic whose uncle is a high ranking clerical authority in the Roman Catholic church.Has the man no dignity,no balls?

Who are these dogs bodies that dare to criticise European nationalism and worship at the alter of Yarweh?Multiculturalism....bah!A mere tool of globalist capital ambition that undermines the very survival of European national identities.From socialist hook nosed Gauls to silent boot licking Teutons.Who dares to challenge Jewish supremacism in Europe?Be proud of your race,your identity,your culture.Fight back!Speak or forever hold your tongue.Your time is now.Call a spade a spade and fear not.Europe belongs to you and not some imported wog,Muslim rebel or Jewish supremacist.These are aliens. They do not belong .Together they thwart every attempt by Europeans that seek their own national identity.Be European!Be proud !Be!

edit your post into the form of an article, add the link to the news article and send it to wvw news. will put it on front page too.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on February 13, 2008, 11:55:49 PM
Far-right band in Hungary a symptom

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ON THE MARCH: Members of the Hungarian Guard parade over the weekend in downtown Budapest. The guards wear uniforms reminiscent of the Arrow Cross, the World War II fascist militia in Hungary that worked with the Nazis and was responsible for or assisted in the slaughter of tens of thousands of Jews.
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                      The group's arrival on the scene has alarmed the government, minority advocates and even late California congressman Tom Lantos.

By Tracy Wilkinson, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer                        
 February 13, 2008                        
                                                                                           BUDAPEST, Hungary -- They wear black-vested uniforms and rally for the fatherland. Their red and white striped armbands remind many here of the fascist thugs who did the Nazis' dirty work in wartime Hungary.

Formed last year, the Hungarian Guard is the latest specimen of right-wing nationalism to make a comeback in Eastern Europe. Its appearance has alarmed the government, minority advocates and even a California congressman with Hungarian ties.

 "People are very curious about us," said Gabor Vona, a former psychology student and rising star in Hungarian far-right politics. He founded the Hungarian Guard to defend what he describes as traditional values and his nation's cultural heritage.

Critics see a more malevolent agenda. Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany called the group "Hungary's shame" and asked judicial authorities to keep an eye on it. The chief prosecutor of Budapest, the capital, wants it shut down.

As the European Union expands eastward, hard-line nationalism is reviving old ghosts here in Hungary as well as in Bulgaria, Slovakia, Romania and other countries that were once part of the Soviet bloc and today aspire to be the New Europe.

The freedom that followed the collapse of communism, and then expanded with EU membership, has also unveiled a dark strain of anti-Semitism, prejudice and anti-immigrant sentiment that is being channeled by a new crop of small but noisy extremist groups. They are able to capitalize on disillusion among some segments of the population who feel bypassed by free-market reforms and globalization.

Far-right political parties recently set up paramilitary-style squads in Bulgaria and the Czech Republic. In Slovakia, a far-right party is part of the ruling coalition, although a paramilitary group called the Slovak Community was outlawed.

Growing membership

In Hungary, the Hungarian Guard, or Magyar Garda, swore in its first 50-odd members in a ceremony last summer outside the imposing Buda Castle near the Danube, historic seat of Hungarian royalty and home today to the presidential offices. A former defense minister attended the oath-taking and three priests blessed it.

By the end of the year, 600 others had signed up, and several thousand more had applied for membership, founder Vona said. Although members are fond of marching in formation and pledging to provide "physical and spiritual self-defense," Vona insists that they are not armed.

In Vona's view, Hungary never made the full transition from communism; he wants to get rid of Gyurcsany's Socialist government and return the country to an older time, with emphasis on pure Hungarian identity and Christian values.

"Christian identity and Hungarian identity are one," Vona, who turns 30 this year, said in an interview at his office in Budapest. He also heads a small right-wing political party, Jobbik, which has run unsuccessfully for parliament but does have representatives in municipal governments.

The right has been able to capitalize on discontent with the government after a scandal in which the prime minister admitting lying to the public about the economy, and violent protests in 2006 on the 50th anniversary of Hungary's unsuccessful attempt to break away from Soviet domination.

What many people here find particularly provocative are the Hungarian Guard's uniforms (black caps, vests, pants and boots), insignia and flags. All of it is reminiscent of the Arrow Cross, Hungary's World War II fascist militiamen who worked with the Nazis and were responsible for or assisted in the slaughter of tens of thousands of the Hungarian Jews who were killed.

Many Jews were shipped off to death camps; others were simply shot on the banks of the Danube and dumped into the river.

Vona says the red and white stripes and other emblems are from the medieval Arpad dynasty and weren't meant to evoke Nazism. But that explanation has convinced no one.

The specter of anti-Semitism is especially disturbing here in Budapest, home to the largest Jewish community in Eastern Europe and one that is thriving and undergoing something of a renaissance.

Anti-Semitism persists but has not been overtly violent in recent years, said Michael L. Miller, who teaches Jewish studies at Budapest's Central European University. He recalled being handed a leaflet a couple of years ago at a mainstream political rally that showed a big-nosed, kinky-haired man with a fistful of 100-euro bills, an unstated but not-so-subtle use of the Jew as the money-grubbing "outsider."

Political backing

Some Hungarians fear the leap from rhetorical anti-Semitism to more dangerous action is a small one, especially with the rise of groups such as the Hungarian Guard that seem to receive at least tacit backing from more prominent rightist political factions.

Hungary's main right-wing political party, Fidesz, was slow to criticize the Hungarian Guard. Fidesz is the largest opposition party in parliament and could well win the next elections. Some analysts believe the party is quietly sustaining the guard as a way to hold on to voters.

"They are playing with fire," said Judit Lakner, a prominent Hungarian writer who edits a cultural magazine for Centropa, an institute that documents Jewish history in Central Europe.

Disaffected nationalism "is a menace throughout Europe," she added. "Those who feel they are being left behind are vulnerable to left- or right-wing manipulation. The rightist movement is every year stronger and stronger."

 U.S. Rep. Tom Lantos (D-Burlingame), a Budapest-born Holocaust survivor who died Monday, introduced a bill in Congress to bar entry into the United States of any member of the Hungarian Guard, whose members he called "crazy fanatics."

Threat to Gypsies

The guard may pose an even greater threat to minorities such as the Gypsies, or Roma, who face fierce discrimination and hatred throughout Europe. Gypsies probably constitute about 6% of Hungary's population and are its poorest minority.

Involvement by Roma in robberies and assaults has further alienated other Hungarians and given extremists fodder for rallying support. Members of the Hungarian Guard led a rally last month portrayed as a protest against crime but seen as a largely anti-Gypsy demonstration.

"They are turning away from Jews as targets, to Gypsies," said Krisztian Szabados, director of Budapest's Political Capital Institute, a think tank. "That is how they can grow, and my fear is it could turn violent."

The guard is also exploiting other time-honored issues in Hungary, including its loss early in the 20th century of two-thirds of its territory, leaving hundreds of thousands of ethnic Hungarians inside the borders of other countries. This has been an emotional issue for generations of Hungarians.

It is not yet clear what impact the Hungarian Guard will have on national politics, and there is no indication it has attempted to join forces with paramilitary groups in neighboring countries.

But domestic and international condemnation has been fierce, and a Hungarian court is considering a petition to disband the guard.

"It was very frightening to see them, there, in their uniforms," recalled Ferenc Marczali, 25, a graduate student in English at one of Budapest's main universities. "At first I thought, 600 of them, it's not too many. Then I thought, 600 of them, that's a lot!

"I can't decide how afraid I have to be."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-guard13feb13,0,7240336,full.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-guard13feb13,0,7240336,full.story)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on February 21, 2008, 12:15:53 AM
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Hungary passes hate speech law                
                                       Wednesday,                      February 20, 2008                    (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/graphiques/home/printer.gif) (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=1131#)                   (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/graphiques/home/mail.gif) (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=1131#)                                                                                                                             (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/IMG/arton1131.jpg)Photos Gallery  (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=1131#)
 JTA
 The Hungarian parliament passed a law against hate speech.
 According to the new law passed Monday, the use of hate speech is punishable by up to two years in prison.
 "Offending someone publicly who belongs to ethnic, religious, or national groups in Hungary is regarded as a punishable act,? said a statement about the new law.
 The proposal, which was prepared and pushed through by the ruling Socialst Party, is designed to punish not only hate speech and expressions, but also use of the Nazi salute. The latter element is apparently directed at the newly organized Hungarian racist and fascist group, the Hungarian Guards.
 The long-awaited new law, passed without opposition in the Hungarian parliament, has been refused three times by the Hungarian Constitutional Court, which maintains that freedom of speech is more important than stopping hate speech.
 Hungarian President Laszlo Solyom also supported the Constitutional Court?s opinion saying there is no need for a new law against hate speech since the old legal code is able to handle hate-related crimes.
http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=1131

A perfect example of Jewish supremacy in action.A bill refused 3 times by the constitutional court,a refusal by the HUNGARIAN president to endorse the bill and still it marches forward.

So much for freedom of speech.You can say what the hell you like so long as you dont offend the Jews.That's it!I'm not going to the synagogue anymore and I'll give Gonzi his kippa back.:(

As I mentioned in another thread in a reply to ED.The Jewish parliament of Hungary endorsed Kosovo's claim of independence.The Hungarians didn't.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on February 24, 2008, 05:38:43 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
A perfect example of Jewish supremacy in action.A bill refused 3 times by the constitutional court,a refusal by the HUNGARIAN president to endorse the bill and still it marches forward.

So much for freedom of speech.You can say what the hell you like so long as you dont offend the Jews.That's it!I'm not going to the synagogue anymore and I'll give Gonzi his kippa back.:(

As I mentioned in another thread in a reply to ED.The Jewish parliament of Hungary endorsed Kosovo's claim of independence.The Hungarians didn't.

so if i were to be called a stupid maltese cunt by a hungarian i could have him marched to prison? how ridiculous.

hang the bastard traitors!
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on February 24, 2008, 05:40:10 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
sepp, they can gag your speech, but they can never gag our thoughts.
freedom of expression you may take away from me but you will never own my mind or my way of thinking.  that is mine and mine alone.

i think it better to ignore the 'spirit' of these laws. one can create all sorts of different meanings through words if one engages in a little creative license.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on February 25, 2008, 08:39:53 PM
Rhetoric of far-right group finds reception in Hungary                  
                                       Monday,                      February 25, 2008                    (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/graphiques/home/printer.gif) (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=1146#)                   (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/graphiques/home/mail.gif) (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=1146#)                                                                                                                             (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/IMG/arton1146.jpg)Photos Gallery  (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=1146#)
 JTA
 By Michael J. Jordan
 

BUDAPEST, Hungary ?For the first time in his 33 years, Peter says, a homegrown Hungarian movement is articulating a vision for how Hungarians can preserve their culture and traditions.
 It doesn?t matter that members of the new Hungarian Guard parade in black combat boots and uniforms emblazoned with a red-and-white symbol reminiscent of the local Nazi party, which killed thousands of Jews during the Holocaust. Or that the Guard?s rallying cry to protect Hungarians against the ?criminality? of Roma ? Gypsies ? stirs fear of interethnic clashes.
 ?I don?t want to talk about the Jews or Gypsies, because that?s what the media says the target is, and the media?s a joke,? says Peter, who withheld his last name. Dressed in black with slicked-back hair, Peter endured frigid weather to visit a Guard recruitment event on Sunday. ?The real target is a better Hungary,? he says.
 That is no comfort to the thousands of Holocaust survivors who still live in Budapest or to Hungary?s 100,000 or so Jews, the largest Jewish community in Central Europe.
 It?s not so much the possibility of violence from the Hungarian Guard that troubles Jews here ? the Guard, which has 1,000 or so members, is unarmed ? but the apparent receptiveness of a growing number of Hungarians to far-right ideas.
 Jewish, Roma and human rights groups already are pressing the government to ban the Guard, and some Roma are talking about forming self-defense militias.
 The Hungarian Guard was created in August 2007 by a relatively new far-right political party, Jobbik, seeking votes and credibility on the right wing, experts say.
 Showing increasingly sophistication over the last decade, the right wing has successfully infused mainstream public discourse with distinctions between ?Hungarians? and ?non-Hungarians? ? with Jews and Roma on the outside.
 This has revived the historic insider-outsider question for Hungarian Jews who saw themselves as assimilated members of Hungarian society, not as outsiders looking in.
 ?Even young people who are not racist or anti-Semitic use the same terminology, that you can?t be both Hungarian and a Jew,? says Andrea Szonyi, who co-founded the Holocaust education group Zachor : Foundation for Social Remembrance. ?It leads us back to the Holocaust, when people who defined themselves as Hungarian were taken to the gas chambers as Jews.?
 The rise of a far-right movement is not unique to Hungary.
 Across Central and Eastern Europe, the revolutions of 1989-1990 that launched post-Communist transitions to democracy also enabled extremist groups to gain a foothold.
 In Hungary, they more or less remained on the fringe until 1998, when Viktor Orban, once a blue-jeans-and-earring-wearing young member of the anti-Communist resistance, became prime minister and swung his party to the right, espousing nationalist, Christian values.
 His party, Fidesz, formed a de facto coalition with the small ultra-nationalist Hungarian Justice and Life Party, whose playwright leader, Istvan Csurka, indulged in Jewish conspiracy theories.
 Though he was never accused of anti-Semitism, Orban was criticized for not denouncing fellow Fidesz members who sometimes appealed to supporters with coded phrases viewed as anti-Semitic ? for example, attacking rivals as ?cosmopolitans,? ?Communist Jews? or for possessing ?foreign hearts.?
 Many Hungarians rejected such rhetoric, but the genie was out of the bottle.
 Zsidozas ? a uniquely Hungarian term for ?talking about Jews? ? became more common in the media and in Parliament, and politics generally grew more toxic.
 In September 2006, when Socialist Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany was caught on tape admitting that he lied to voters ?morning, evening and night? about the nation?s economic health to win re-election earlier that year, Orban and Fidesz, now leading the opposition, branded the Gyurcsany government illegitimate.
 Daily demonstrations ensued. A new version of the Arpad flag ? the red-and-white stripes from an ancient royal coat-of-arms also adopted by Hungary?s Nazi puppet regime in the Arrow Cross ? began to appear at the demonstrations.
 The new flag may have lacked the black Arrow Cross symbol that, like the Nazi swastika and Soviet hammer-and-sickle, is illegal to display in Hungary, but Hungarian liberals said nobody was fooled by what the new flag meant.
 That flag has become a fixture at anti-government demonstrations, especially events put on by the Guard.
 For some Jews here, the growth of the far-right movement, has been startling.
 ?Thank goodness my mother has Alzheimer?s,? says Katalin, whose mother survived the Budapest ghetto at age 17. ?If she were OK, she would be very afraid, remembering the dark days of the Holocaust.? Katalin asked not to be identified by her last name.
 Some Jews here say such fears may be overreactions, but the Guard?s affiliation with a legally registered political party, Jobbik, is cause for concern, says the president of the Federation of Hungarian Jewish Communities, Peter Feldmajer.
 Jobbik polls at about 1 percent support, but the party shares seats with Fidesz on several local councils across the country.
 ?The Guard may be 1,000 or 2,000 crazy people who like to play soldier games, but on the other hand this party has a relationship with normal political life,? Feldmajer says.
 Perhaps for this reason, the Guard has been cautious about avoiding public talk of Jews in citing their litany of historic injustices against Hungary. Instead, the Guard focuses on a more populist target : the Roma, who are widely disliked here.
 Fueling public hatred, fear and negative stereotyping of the Roma, who are mired in poverty and unemployment that prompts some to turn to petty crime, the Guard portrays them all as ?Gypsy criminals.? The Guard has been organizing weekly marches as shows of force in towns around the country with significant Roma populations.
 Hungary?s population of about 10 million includes some 500,000 Roma.
 The Guard ?recognizes they can?t play the anti-Semitic card, because it will delegitimize them in a greater way than playing the anti-Roma card would,? says Michael Miller, an American professor of Jewish history in the nationalism studies program at Central European University in Budapest.
 However, Miller notes, crowds at Guard demonstrations often will yell things like ?Down with the Jews? or refer to Gyurcsany as a ?Jewish hireling.?
 Feldmajer says Jewish leaders are lobbying local mayors to ban the Guard from their cities. He told JTA he expects the state prosecutor?s office to decide soon if the Guard has violated its registration as a cultural and educational organization.
 Meanwhile, observers say, it?s essential that mainstream Hungarian conservatives, led by Fidesz, publicly distance themselves from the right-wing extremists.
 Several Fidesz officials already have done so, but Orban has not.
 Andras Kadar, co-chairman of the Hungarian Helsinki Committee, a human rights group, says a hate-speech law Hungary passed on Monday ? and which still may be challenged in court as violating free-speech rights ? is key.
 ?This is an apt moment for state organs to deal with the issue of freedom of expression, freedom of association, and make clear that ?democracy? cannot serve to justify all sorts of racist acts,? Kadar says.
 After Sunday?s Guard event, Peter, the potential recruit, said he wondered whether visible support for the Guard ? such as driving members to marches - might hurt him professionally.
 ?I work for a big company,? he said. ?Maybe they wouldn?t like that I?m a member, and it would cause some problems for me.?
http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=1146
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on February 25, 2008, 11:00:40 PM
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                                                     Originally Posted by haliho                     (http://www.jobbik.com/forum/rooq/buttons/viewpost.gif) (http://www.jobbik.com/forum/showthread.php?p=232#post232)                
                 sepp44,

I think that getting into the EU Parliament is a waste of time. The EU is nothing else but the Trojan horse of the background power that controls the affairs of Europe and the world. The representatives of the EU Parliament have only one function, to provide a legal facade to the crime that currently has been going on in the form of looting and robbing the poorest and the most defenseless counties of Europe. Unfortunately, Hungary is one of them. Such a critical time, conscientious politicians have to stay home where the problems are. I think that the EU will collapse at some point, or metamorphose into something else, just as NATO did some time ago when it stopped being a collective defense organization and became an arm of the us war machine.
                               
At one point,I too used to think that attempting to join the EU parliament is and was a waste of time.Now I'm not so sure.The European parliament (as it stands) cannot be changed from the outside,it must be done from the inside.How can this be done?
Right wing parties working together as one as opposed to what we have witnessed so far.You yourself haliho state that ,as it stands currently,the EU parliament is the ' trojan horse of the background power'.Personally myself I would rather say 'Jews'.It is more clearer than trojan horses etc.

By standing alone,do you think Hungary and Jobbik can stand up to the EU and it's Jewish lobbyists?Remember what happened to Austria when Jorge Haider and the freedom party won power?Threat of sanctions etc,bla bla bla.No one nation is strong enough to stand alone at present only Russia.

Does one prefer the squalid socialists and their backers to grow stonger by the day?One only has to see Hungarys latest piece of Jewish legislation,see here,(courteousy of the European Jewish Congress)...http://www.vivamalta.net/forum/showp...4&postcount=63 (http://www.vivamalta.net/forum/showpost.php?p=138724&postcount=63)
how weak European nations really are.Hungary is fast going the way of Germany.

How would Hungary stand alone haliho?What would be your solution?To a point,I do agree with you that the EU in it's current form,cannot continue to function as it is.But continue it will.If the right or nationalists or patriots or whatever one wishes to label folk like you and I wish for change,then standing alone is not going to be the answer.Globalists feed of young ,ambitious ,must haves that care not about their ancestory or nation but whether they can afford a new pair of Nikes or pay for their food bill at Lidl(read Harald Schwartz).
So haliho.I'm open to your suggestions.

   regards sepp44(my momma was a Pecsi(http://www.jobbik.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif))

http://www.jobbik.com/forum/showthread.php?p=239#post239 (http://www.jobbik.com/forum/showthread.php?p=239#post239)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on February 25, 2008, 11:39:04 PM
it is essential that we fight this battle on many fronts and use many talents just as our enemies do.

the eu is one way but politics in general, cultural influence and business influence are vital too. each one supports the other just as imperium and dominium do likewise.

many heads, one aim, all across europe.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on February 25, 2008, 11:42:39 PM
Quote from: Marco Polo
it is essential that we fight this battle on many fronts and use many talents just as our enemies do.

the eu is one way but politics in general, cultural influence and business influence are vital too. each one supports the other just as imperium and dominium do likewise.

many heads, one aim, all across europe.

Someone would like to discuss that with you methinks.He lives in the UK.;)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: IMPERIUM on February 26, 2008, 01:37:17 AM
Jews, Jews, Jews - pushing pushing pushing: holocaust, holocaust, holocaust,...
Meddling, mischief making in other countries.
Imposing themselves, complaining, moaning, protesting, ever pushing...

E andate al inforno!  Maledetti Ebrei!

Imperium
0802

Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Neverwinter on February 26, 2008, 04:34:10 AM
The Jewish lobbies/organizations always get their say and their opinion is viewed as important in the media....pure coincidence of course!  hahahaha  I have nothing but respect for the Hungarian Guard.  It would be so heartening to see them become a large group with major influence.  I do certainly hope for it.  Hail the Hungarian Guard!
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on March 02, 2008, 07:07:51 PM
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Armed Guard in black uniforms            
                                                              There is a Guard in Hungary that has been closely associated with a political party. They wear boots, black uniforms and they wish to provide security to the citizens.

No, it is not the Hungarian Guard again in the headlines, it is a far more discreetly publicised group, IN-KAL Security. As opposed to the Hungarian Guard, they are indeed armed, have tactical vehicles, receive military training and provide high-profile security tasks funded by the Socialist government. Although their website says it's Hungarian owned, the group was established by and is linked to Israeli security groups. IN-KAL is closely associated with MSZP, the ruling Socialist party and is known as the Socialist's private army.

They have received more than 840 million HUF from the government since 2002. While the Hungarian Guard is under enermous pressure from the government and its media, there is little known about IN-KAL and their interests and influance in politics. This influance could even mount to national security concerns, as Imre Posta, former psychologist for the elite police force, the Republican Guard explains.

Extract from an interview with Imre Posta. Courtesy of bombagyar.hu. *

Tomcat (bombagyar.hu) : The name IN-KAL has come up so many times regarding the brutal atrocities in 2006.

Imre Posta: These are probably not only gossips. We hear about this everywhere on the street and on the internet. There were such misuse of power that we can think that they were indeed IN-KAL members.

I met former collegues in the last few days and they said that it got as far as government officials having IN-KAL marked official vehicles. Maybe even their drivers are IN-KAL.
The system is completely compromised by this so-called private group that it's difficult to say where police ends and where IN-KAL starts.

Tomcat (bombagyar.hu) : Is there a national security concern regarding foreign owned IN-KAL?

Imre Posta: When the prosecution invesigated, some statements emerged that it is indeed a security threat. My new book includes these and other statements.

The guys [Police] said that IN-KAL has been videotaping their activities. IN-KAL members sit in protected vehicles, listening in police radio communications and can note vital police codes. There have been security codes going missing, they know about security plans and arrangements, so it is a high national security risk.

Real criminals have been caught amongst the members of IN-KAL, one was even pulled out
from a protected vehicle.

We also know that IN-KAL possess such a financial strength that a real security task can't even
be arranged without their involvement, also due to the direct financial and moral depravation of
the elite police force, the Republican Guard." - Imre Posta explains. Please see
the associated video on the homepage about IN-KAL, courtesy of Bombagyar.hu.*
http://www.jobbik.com/forum/showthread.php?p=242#post242 (http://www.jobbik.com/forum/showthread.php?p=242#post242)


http://www.inkal.hu/bemutatkozas_e.htm (http://www.inkal.hu/bemutatkozas_e.htm)

Which led me to this..
http://www.ibssa.org/index.php?topic_id=12 (http://www.ibssa.org/index.php?topic_id=12)

which led me to this...(all links bar one I removed for clarity)

         NSOCCS - National Society for Organized Crime and Corruption StudiesInternational Crime Prevention Institute
        St. George Police Foundation
        Hungarian Police Academy
        Hungarian Civil Guard
        Detektor Plusz Publishing Ltd.
        International Budo Academy
        Knights of Malta, Federation of Autonomous Priories (http://www.ibssa.org/index.php?article_id=112)
        Pro - Deo State University
        INEOA, International Narcotic Enforcement Officers Association



and this......
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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on March 02, 2008, 08:16:38 PM
its amazing how far the tentacles reach. i think though that hungarian guard have the inner strength to win.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on March 02, 2008, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: Marco Polo
its amazing how far the tentacles reach. i think though that hungarian guard have the inner strength to win.

Actually Marco,I'm in the process of searching exactly who the tentacles belong to.i THINK Jobbiks opponents are very formidable and extremely dangerous.Go here...

http://www.ibssa.org/index.php?topic_id=30&offset=70 (http://www.ibssa.org/index.php?topic_id=30&offset=70)
 and read through the news archives.You will also note that many,if not most belong to the Sovereign order of the Knights of Malta.This info cannot be obtained from the SNOM site but the IBSSA site gives many names,who they are and from where.Even  ***** ***** and his buddy  **** ********* pop up and we know who they are.Freemasonry in all it's glory and technicolour.From Princes to Israeli counter intelligence.Very serious people.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on March 02, 2008, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Actually Marco,I'm in the process of searching exactly who the tentacles belong to.i THINK Jobbiks opponents are very formidable and extremely dangerous.Go here...

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 and read through the news archives.You will also note that many,if not most belong to the Sovereign order of the Knights of Malta.This info cannot be obtained from the SNOM site but the IBSSA site gives many names,who they are and from where.Even  ***** ***** and his buddy  **** ********* pop up and we know who they are.Freemasonry in all it's glory and technicolour.From Princes to Israeli counter intelligence.Very serious people.

isnt there conscription in hungary?
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on March 02, 2008, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: Marco Polo
isnt there conscription in hungary?

I'm not sure.There used to be but I'm not sure about now.Why?
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on March 02, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
I'm not sure.There used to be but I'm not sure about now.Why?

the difference between men and mice. soldiers/fighters are the former
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on March 17, 2008, 11:28:56 PM
Published:  March,15 2008

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_100.jpg)Around the country, more than 1000 commemoration is held today of the 160th anniversary of the 1848 revolution. There are 170 events in the capital, Budapest, where 12 events are considered "high-security" risk by the regime, including the Jobbik - Magyar Garda, Fidesz and MOM commemorations. So what's happening? Minute by minute.


9:00

Few hundred protesters turned up at Kossuth Square, where the official commemorations are about to start with the ceremonial raising the Republic's flag attended by President Solyom and PM Gyurcsany. The demonstrators are outside the previously cordoned off area and shouting "Gyurcsany, f.ck off!" Heavy police presence can be seen at the Square.



10:15

1500-2000 anti-government demonstrators are marching towards the official government celebrations at the National Museum. The crowd is led by Reverend Jnr. Hegedus after a memorial had been held at Szabdsag Square. The crowd is shouting anti-government  slogans. Israeli-connected IN-KAL, security for the official government celebrations confirmed that they will "remove anyone who is protesting against PM Gyurcsany".



11:15

There are only a handful of people at the official government commemoration at the National Museum. Observers may notice that there are no flags - no official government speeches and certainly no speech from PM Gyurcsany.



11:20

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_nak07.jpg)The 2000 strong anti-government crowd have reached their next stop at Fovamhaz Square. There were no confrontation (yet)  with the few dozen people at the official celebration or with the few thousand police guarding them.  







11:35

2 bigger units of the Hungarian Guard left Fovamhaz Square and marching through Vaci street in formation, enthusiast citizens shouting "Go on, Guard!". The Hungarian Guard joined Reverend Jnr. Hegedus' memorial at Szabadsag Square in the morning and assisted to remove the red paint from the sculpture of Hungarian novellist and legend Albert Wass that was vandalised some week ago.



11:55

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_09.jpg)Reverend Hegedus asked the crowd at Fovamhaz Square: "Where has Petofi's revolution faded? Where are the ideas that once represented the 1848 revolution?" "The liar government and their allies befoul the very steps where Petofi recited the 12 points" he added. Hegedus urged national organisations and parties to cooperate together. Ha also had a message to Simon Peres Israeli President, who month ago announced that "Israel is buying up Hungary": "Petofi would say: "Occupy your wh.re mother, not our country!".



12:55

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_160.jpg)More than 1500 anti-government demonstrators arrived to 15 March Square, where the Liberal SZDSZ party member Demszky, Budapest's Mayor will try to make a speech. He is guarded by hundreds of police and IN-KAL security guards fearing that last year's incidents could be repeated when demonstrators threw eggs at the Mayor. Police cordoned off the area so demonstrators are outside the "throwing zone". Neverthless they do their best by throwing eggs, tomatoes etc, shouting "To prison!" and "Treason!".  











14:15

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_DSC_0022.jpg)The Jobbik - Magyar Garda commemoration started with 5000 people. The Hungarian Guard are present and  there is heavy police presence in the nearby streets. After the speech of Istvan Dosa, the Captain of the Guard, Gabor Vona addressed the crowd. He stated that there is no real chance to change the government unless the main opposition party Fidesz and President Solyom stop talking and start acting.



15:25

Erzsebet Square, Jobbik - Garda commemoration: "Last year [15th March] we promised the Hungarian Guard. Here they are. We can promise 4 new things for next year" - Gabor Vona, leader of Jobbik and Hungarian Guard said. Jobbik announced the creation of the King Attila people's schools in every counties in Hungary, led by Istvan Kiszely. There will be a new watchdog-commando against the multinational supermarkets and for the environment. A new committee for the Hungarian language to be part of the World-inheritence. Finally, Gabor Vona promised to double the number of the Hungarian Guard at the new ceremony at Hosok Square on the 29th March 2008.



17:00

The main opposition party, the Fidesz-rally finished. 4-5000 people from the Fidesz-rally joined the event and rock-concert organised by MOM at Blaha Lujza Square. Nationalist bands playing their songs, doesn't really go down well with the Fidesz supporters. However, the crowd is there and waiting for Toroczkai and Budahazy, 2 main figures from the 2006 demonstrations. The police is out in full force, nearby streets are crowded with police transport vehicles, water cannons and armed policeman.



20:15

After music performances by nationalists bands and speeches from Toroczkai and Budahazy, 1000-1500 people decided to head to the Palace of Arts, where PM Gyurcsany was celebrating 15th March with selected guests.



21:00

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_HI__4582.jpg)The police blocked the way of the marching demonstrators who are shouting anti-government slogans. The crowd is following a tactic of disappearing in little streets and re-appearing later on the main street. Police reinforcements arrived to he Palace of Arts.






21:15

Police units tried to lift some demonstrators out of the crowd but it resulted in close fight between the crowd and the riot police, who wear masks again.




22:00

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_DSC_0194.jpg)Demonstrators beat 2 policemen at Krudy Gyula street making them withdraw. The demonstrators are in smaller, 50-100 strong groups wearing black clothes and masks, throwing Molotov-cocktails on police cars and other projectiles on the police who reply with new, stronger teargas. News channel HirTV reported chaos amongst the police lines. A teargas-bottle exploded when a policemen slipped, injuring 4 other policemen.



22:40

21 people have been arrested so far - The Budapest Police Department reported. At Maria street a group of plain clothed, masked policemen checked a few masked demonstrators.

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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Neverwinter on March 19, 2008, 12:06:57 PM
Ahhh, it does do the heart so much good to see the Guard pressing forward....determined and growing stronger!  Thank you for posting Sepp...
;)
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on March 19, 2008, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: Neverwinter
Ahhh, it does do the heart so much good to see the Guard pressing forward....determined and growing stronger!  Thank you for posting Sepp...
;)

Thanks for following and taking interst in their stuggles NW.I find the Magyar Garda interesting in that they are ,imo,setting a precedent.They are growing bigger and stronger.Their messages are getting through to the public.
The use of paramilitary and external forces by the current Hungarian administration in countering Hungarian anti govt protests is a sign of desperation which will backfire on them.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on March 20, 2008, 01:20:21 PM
Wednesday, March 19, 2008

    Hungary defies international law (http://neilclark66.blogspot.com/2008/03/hungary-defies-international-law.html)

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Didn't think the Hungarian government  (http://neilclark66.blogspot.com/2007/11/hungarian-uprising.html)of multi-millionaire Ferenc Gyurcsany (pictured above with pal George W. Bush) could stoop any lower? They just have. (http://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=7849621)

We are told that Hungary "coordinated this step with the United States and the European Union". Oh, how wonderful after years of "co-ordinating" its foreign policy with the Soviet Union, that Hungary is a free and independent nation once again!



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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on April 01, 2008, 11:46:14 PM
1956' veterans joined the Hungarian Guard (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=15)
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Veteran freedom fighters of the 1956 uprising joined the Hungarian Guard on Saturday, 29th March, at the 3rd national initiation ceremony of the Guard in Budapest.  Amongst the veterans the Guard initiated new cadets (under 18) and 600 new members of the Hungarian Guard, doubling their number from 600 to more than 1200.

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/DSC_0021_resize_1.jpg)The first intitation ceremony was held in Budapest last year at Buda Castle, when the first 56 Guard was sworn in front of the duplicate of the Holy Crown. Further 600 members were
sworn in in October, and Gabor Vona, leader of Jobbik and founder of the Hungarian Guard promised their number to be doubled by the 29th March.

Heavy - the usual - police presence, teargas launchers in the nearby streets, large number of supporters awaited the ceremony on Saturday, when around 1000 Guard made their way to Hosok Square where the ceremony took place.

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/DSC_0050_resize_0.jpg)The new members of the Guards made their pledge for the country, the nation and for all the Hungarians. "The Hungarians have fought for their lifes in History" - Lorant Hegedus Bishop said in his opening speech - "Since St.Stephen we have fought to stay alive. We fought against the Mongols, Turks, Germans and Soviets, we stayed alive. We stood up after 1848. We sttod up from two dictatures, we gave the world 1956 and 1989". He continued "The Guard are here to
prevent us from the death of the nation. The Guard has to be radical and responsible but not extrem. We have to follow the path of Jesus to earn life, opposed to the dictature of money and hoplessness".


(http://www.jobbik.com/images/DSC_0090_resize.jpg)Balint Nemeth, 1956 veteran and freedom fighter, member of the senior group of the Hungarian Guard added that "we already joined the Guard on the 23rd October 1956. We continue our mission here, can not wait and watch how they execute the Hungarian Nation."
"The criminals who rob Hungary at the moment are concerned about anything that is Hungarian. They are not concerned about the graves of freedom fighters, Ilonka Toth or Peter Mansfeld. They are concerned about the Hungarian Guard and they preparing themselves with their own
groups such as In-KAL or Krav Maga [Israeli rooted paramilitary groups]." he added.

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/DSC_0054_resize.jpg)Lajos Fur, former Defense Minister stated that there is an enormous need for the Guard, they should be the foundation of courage and patriotism. Istvan Dosa, captain of the Hungarian Guard in his speech said that the continious attacks and attempts to intimidate the Guard are in fact making them stronger.
Dosa stated that the Guard will continue and will fight with every legal method for their rights.

Gabor Vona, leader of Jobbik and founder of the Hungarian Guard closed the ceremony, saying the the Guards aim is to save Hungarians and their heritage. "Step by step, we have to rebuild our identity as a nation. The Guard is Hungary's heart now. Trianon dismembered the body, the communists beheaded the nation. We only have our heart now that should
be stronger and stronger with the Hungarian Guard". Vona also quoted the late 1956 veteran Gergely Pongratz saying that "we have to carry on the flag that they raised in 1956".

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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on April 01, 2008, 11:49:58 PM
And to think,prior to 1989 it was illegal for folk in Hungary to gather in groups of  no more than ten.....In Malta it still is !:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on April 01, 2008, 11:55:22 PM
Fidesz to follow Jobbik at the height of the crisis in Hungary (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=14)
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Don't take our word for it - the first part quoted the Report on Human Rights by the US State Department that included many facts we have been saying here for years.
Now Fidesz, the largest opposition party in Hungary seem to follow what Jobbik, the Movement For A Better Hungary have been saying for years.

"We are facing the same regime that we faced 20 years ago" - These are the words of Viktor Orban, leader of Fidesz, quoted last week, 2008, at the 20th anniversary of forming their political party. "We want a new change of regime. The last 17 years have gone in the wrong direction, the real transition has not happened. It must happen now." 2007, Gabor Vona, president of Jobbik.

"There might be early elections as there is no legit and working government" - again, Viktor Orban said yesterday, 2008. "Jobbik demands the resignation of Ferenc Gyurcs?ny and his Cabinet, who have come to power with a series of lies, as well as new parliamentary elections to be held." - Jobbik statement 2006.

Viktor Orban, president of Fidesz on the current crisis, 2008: "This is not a crisis of government. This is a crisis of the state. Teachers are beaten at school and people are petrified in small villages in the country" - clearly referring to Roma criminality that was put in the spotlight by Jobbik and the Hungarian Guard. Listen to your heart, listen to Jobbik.


The referendum held at the 9th March seem to have accelerated calls for an early election and the collapse of the Socialist-led government. PM Gyurcsany now tries to get rid of the Liberal Democrats but he might be paying a high price for that.

Gyurcsany dismissed his health minister in a move that could break up the country's faltering coalition government. Socialist Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany's removal of Agnes Horvath, a member of the Alliance of Free Democrats, followed a defeat in this referendum on health reform. The move prompted her party to call a meeting on whether to quit the coalition. The Socialists do not have a parliamentary majority without the Free Democrats' backing. But if they did quit the coalition, Mr Gyurcsany could keep power by persuading just four of them to join the Socialists - enough for his party to clinch a majority.
What will happen in Hungary now? The coalition might collapse but things might be a bit more complex than that. US foreign policy played a major rule in the "transitions" in 1989 and still it could have an effect on any outcome ahead of Hungary.

As Daniel McAdams, senior administration for Congressman Ron Paul wrote it in 2005,

"This is nothing new. At the late stages of Soviet rule, the idea in Eastern Europe was for the communists to create opposition movements so as to give the impression of "reform" voices while still controlling the general direction of the revolution. Hence political parties such as what became the Alliance of Free [Liberal] Democrats in Hungary, which were government approved opposition movements to ensure that Western loans would continue to flow to subsidize socialism's suicidal economic policies. No matter who won finally, it was the cadres who always came out on top. This also had the added benefit of defining any political party that didn't fit into the accepted "opposition" movement as "extreme" and only worthy of the strongest condemnation and isolation.  This practice remains, including in places like Hungary, but it is now the US that has adopted the former USSR line on the opposition in the name of defining and supporting a guaranteed compliant client party AND the opposition parties. US policy embraced the Soviet hangover as if it were its own...  So when "unapproved" Viktor Orban was elected prime minister in Hungary in 1998, his government was continuously undermined in Washington and ultimately he was declared persona non grata in the Bush White House. Too independent and not under US control. So with US help in 2002, the US-backed coalition of former communists and "approved" opposition Free Democrats once again took their place in the ruling position of Hungarian society."


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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on April 14, 2008, 11:39:11 PM
Extremists led by Gyurcsany illegally gather (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=18)
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_h06.jpg)More than 1000 extremists gathered in Budapest on Friday, 11 April organised by the extremist Liberal Party, the SZDSZ which is often accused of an anti-Hungarian agenda.

The far-left demonstration was allowed by the Budapest Police Department even though the application for demonstration was submitted later than the 72 hours limit described in the law.
The illegal demonstration and gathering was attended by PM Gyurcsany and former German chancellor Shroeder.

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/gpb_h03.jpg)Human and civil rights organisations pointed out that any applications submitted to the Police after the 72 hours limit should be denied and it has indeed been consistently denied for any anti-government demonstrations.  There seem to be a double-standard used by the politically charged Police Department when decision is made who can demonstrate and who can not. Mostly, of course, anti-government demonstrations are denied and promptly dispersed.
The far-left extremists demonstration followed a week of media-war in Hungary that originated from an incident, when a Hungarian girl was denied to purchase tickets for a patriotic band in a Budapest ticket office. The ticket office is situated in a district where the Jewish community is represented in greater numbers, shop-assistants told the Hungarian girl to leave stating that they refuse serving Fascists. The Hungarian girl contacted conservative newspapers and newsportals and a "flashmob" was organised by a blogger, Tomcat, for Monday.

Organising such an event immediately prompted far-left groups (including Fidesz(!) district mayor, Jewish origin Szabo) to cry wolf and label the flashmob a fascist, nazi demonstration. To Tomcat's surprise, their flashmob was interrupted by 150-200 far-left extremists on Monday. Please click here for the full article. (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=18)
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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: marco polo on April 15, 2008, 07:24:28 AM
double standards? oh, im afraid thats standard these days.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on April 25, 2008, 05:11:55 PM
Not Jewish?Sorry. No moolah for you!

Worldwide protests against the Benes-decrets (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=20)
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A group of Hungarian organisations are set to submit a petition next Tuesday to the members of the European Parliament condemning a resolution passed last year by Slovakia's parliament that upheld the inviolability of the WW2 Benes Decrees.
A total of 147 organisations and associations have so far signed the petition posted on the website www.vilagmagyarsag.com (http://www.vilagmagyarsag.com/) saying that the Slovak Parliament's decision is incompatible with the concept of an united Europe in the 21st century and contravenes human rights.

"With respect to the persecution of the citizens of Hungarian and German nationality in the former Czechoslovakia in 1945-1948 and the related, still applicable legislation," organisers are urging the European legislature to put on its schedule the issue of Benes Decrees and other laws and decisions adopted by the Slovak Parliament and Slovak or Czechoslovak bodies grossly discriminating against Hungarian and German ethnic minorities.

The petition demands that the EP review the decisions of the Slovak authorities for their compliance with European laws and call on Slovakia to abolish the relevant legislation including a law preventing compensation for illegal acts committed before February 25, 1948.

The document also calls for an apology to Hungarians living in Slovakia for the inequity resulting from the current or invalid laws and for the offences committed in relation to Slovakia or Czechoslovakia. Apart from apology, Slovakia is expected to pay a fair compensation to Hungarians and Germans living in Slovakia for the confiscation of property and mental suffering.
"In the event of an inadequate Slovak response or were it to be in conflict with collective human rights, we demand that the European Parliament initiate with the EU Council commencement of proceedings for the violation of Maastricht Treaty and finally the suspension of Slovakia's membership rights in the European Union," reads the petition.


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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on May 19, 2008, 09:06:09 PM
BNP - Jobbik meeting in London (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=27)
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/bnpjobbik.jpg)Nick Griffin, Chairman of the British National Party met with Jobbik representatives Bela Kovacs (President of Foreign Affairs) and Zoltan Fuzessy (Jobbik International Relations) in London on Friday, 16 May. Bela Kovacs passed Jobbik president Gabor Vonas greeting to Mr. Griffin and congratulated the BNP for its success at the recent municipal elections in the UK. During the 2 hours meeting Mr. Griffin and the Jobbik representatives discussed the initial chances of the EP elections in 2009 for the British National Party and Jobbik and the possibilities of co-operation between the two parties. Mr. Griffin noted that Jobbik seems to be a natural and strong ally in the Central Eastern European region and that the parties share common interests and aims.
(http://www.jobbik.com/images/PB0002.jpg)The chairman of the BNP and the Jobbik representatives expressed their concerns about the proposed legislation about limitation of freedom of speech in Hungary and in the EU. The parties also agreed that measures would have to be taken to control the supermarket chain giants and other multinational companies to save our national interests.

Mr. Griffin noted that the problem of mass immigration and its effects in the UK have similarities to the Roma criminality in Hungary and that the BNP and Jobbik share similar resistance from the media when attempting to address the problems. Both parties agreed that positive discrimination would need to be immediately revoked as a start for tackling these problems. Mentioning the Hungarian workers in the UK and in the EU,  Jobbik stated that these mostly highly qualified and educated workforce are an enormous loss for Hungary and is a result of the political and economical situation in Hungary since 1989 that needs to be addressed and urgently dealt with.

At the end of the meeting, Mr. Griffin stated that the similarities between the two parties and their aims are a promising start for co-operation between the BNP and Jobbik in the future.
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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on May 24, 2008, 06:23:15 PM
Commedia dell'arte II.  Hungarian Guard lawsuit continues (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=28)
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/zsgper20.jpg)A lawsuit against the Hungarian Guard has been filed on March 12th. It continued yesterday, May 19th. This bizarre case has also reached another milestone. Organisations Mazsihisz (the Alliance of the Jewish Communities of Hungary) and OC? (Orsz?gos Cig?ny ?nkorm?nyzat ? the Hungarian Self Goverment of Gypsies) became joint plantiffs in the lawsuit. To put this is in everyday language, the original plantiff is now supported by Hungary?s resident Jewish and Gypsy community who are lurking in the background.

Even though the Hungarian Guard Association throughout the whole of its operation and existence has followed the rules and organised itself within a correct legal framework - unprecedented in Hungarian public life - all its events held in exemplary order, nobody injured, no theft, no lies or deceipt, still a bunch of leftist liberals have assembled together to try to bring down its operations.

The blatant disregard of this action by the parliamentary opposition parties shows just how seriously they champion the democratic process.

(http://www.jobbik.com/images/zsgper22.jpg)The Mazsihisz and OC? allege that the formation of the Hungarian Guard infringes the rights and freedom of others. Interestingly, although the submissions by both organizations were made on different dates they were identical, using the same format, the same fonts, the same content and the same expressions!


It is not reasonable to suppose that these submissions were written and edited at the same place and by the same people.
Mazsihisz and OC? were present during the court hearing at the side of the plaintiff voiced their own opinions.

At the hearing yesterday, Kolompar, leader of OC? questioned Istvan Dosa, captain of the Hungarian Guard:

"Kolompar (OC?): Do you agree with the theory of collective sin?

Istvan Dosa (Hungarian Guard): Certainly not.

Kolompar: So why do you speak about Roma criminality?

Istvan Dosa: I speak about Roma criminality in criminology terms.

Kolompar: So why don't you name the criminals individually? e.g. Feri Toth?

Istvan Dosa: The list would be too long..."

Gabor Vona, founding member and leader of the Hungarian Guard Association stated that none of the events organised by the Hungarian Guard were discriminative or against the Roma. Vona refused to answer any questions by Mazsihisz, as "their presence is unnecessary and undoubtedly for provocative reasons".  

The court hearing, yet again, was adjourned to the 30th June 2008.




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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on July 09, 2008, 09:39:54 PM
Jobbik commences social welfare referendum campaign (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=33)
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/roma.jpg)Jobbik, The Movement For a Better Hungary last week submitted a referendum on issues affecting welfare benefits and public security. A statement was issued by Jobbik chairman Gabor Vona after he submitted the signature sheets at the National Election Office.
Vona said his party will pose seven questions, including on whether to only provide social welfare benefits to those who complete 120 hours of community work a month. Jobbik argue that no family allowance should be paid after every third child and instead tax breaks should be available to such families, rather than a family allowance. Hungary's Roma population will be the most affected by the referendum as the majority of Roma live on social benefits.
Jobbik also seeks to achieve the establishment of regional police constables in villages with over 2,000 residents, and five-year prison terms for those who give loans with exorbitant interest and those who attack doctors, teachers or public servants.
Jobbik also seeks a referendum on expelling unruly students from schools and lowering the ceiling of criminal accountability to 12 years of age. Recent polls indicated that 90% of underage criminals are of Roma origin.
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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: ogenoct on July 10, 2008, 03:00:48 AM
Just for the record: Hungary was NEVER under "Jewish occupation." Or did Israel occupy Hungary in the past? I am not aware of any such event. Please enlighten me.
 
Constantin
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on July 17, 2008, 12:22:00 PM
Hate speech law rejected (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=35)
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The Hungarian Constitutional Court last week rejected two amendments to Hungary?s laws on inflammatory public discourse that would have made so-called ?hate speech? a criminal offence punishable by up to two years in prison.

In a clear attempt to silence opposition party Jobbik, the Socialist Liberal government last autumn brought in legislation on hate speech. It aimed to restrict public speech that denigrates and foments prejudice against minority groups on the grounds of religion, ethnicity or sexuality. Jobbik, the Movement For A Better Hungary have been campaigning to bring attention to a wave of criminal activites committed by Hungary's 7% Roma population. Roma criminality have spread through Europe and rocked Italy in the last few years, where serious atrocities were committed by immigrant, Romanian origin Roma ethnic groups that resulted in a crackdown of immigrants by Italian authorities.  The Hungarian Guard, a Cultural and Traditional Association created by Gabor Vona, chairman of Jobbik have also already received unfair and outragous allegations, some pro-communist and Jewish groups even labelling them as a fascist organisation in an attempt to create their "hate speech" law.

The amendments tightening the law were passed by parliament in November 2007 and February this year, but referred to the court by President L?szl? S?lyom, who felt the stricter rules on public discourse might be unconstitutional.

The Constitutional Court ruled last Monday that the amendments were indeed unconstitutional.

The Federation of Hungarian Jewish Communities (MAZSIHISZ) was first to criticise the Hungarian court?s decision, stating that the court now appears to consider freedom of speech to be of equal importance.

Indeed, freedom of speech should be of equal importance. We still await a revised version of the "hate speech law" that would restrict public speech that denigrates and foments prejudice against the majority Hungarian population.



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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: shadow cup on July 17, 2008, 08:18:03 PM
It is nice to know that Hungary is miles ahead of little Malta in deciding what does or doesn't warrant a jail sentence, at least in this instance.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on July 17, 2008, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: shadow cup
It is nice to know that Hungary is miles ahead of little Malta in deciding what does or doesn't warrant a jail sentence, at least in this instance.

Little Malta is behind everybody in everything.It only jumps in front when it it is told to jump.Norman gets 2 years suspended for four for comparing the Maltese president to a gardener(in part).When the Hungarian president, in round one of the 'hate speech' bill refused the Jews their wishes and threw the amendments into the high court,the Jews responded by snubbing the Hungarian president and refused to attend the annual Presidential ball/dinner.A very public and disrespectful action by the Jews of Hungary toward the President.It seems now like the Jews have lost round two also.What is the Jews next move I wonder?Public support through jobbik went to the president.The Hungarian president acts in the best interests of the Hungarian people which is more than can be said of the Maltese president towards the Maltese vis a vis promoting multiculturalism and persecuting individuals that raise concerns over the influx of illegal immigrants into the country.As for el presidente the gardener championing the rights of the Maltese to free speech,I suppose one has to look no further than el presidentes collusion with the Jewish community of Malta.
Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on July 18, 2008, 12:32:15 AM
Yet another rightophobic server hosting company, Layeredtech, Inc. decided to pull the plug on a Hungarian patriotic website. Newsportal kuruc.info is one of the most popular websites in Hungary and is known to be the harshest opposition to the pro-communist government led by Socialist PM Gyurcsany.

There have already been numerous attempts by the Hungarian Socialist government to silence the patriotic newsportal, including a claim by PM Gyurcsany*for judicial aid from the US government that was rejected by the US Department of Justice.*

Until last week*troubled newsportal kuruc.info had been successfully manouvering and evading closure, but mounting pressure from the pro-communist Hungarian government and left-wing lobby groups resulted in suspension of their site. US server hosting companies Softlayer and then LayeredTech Inc. decided to suspend the server where kuruc.info resided without valid US court warrants or any further explanation.

There is a growing concern that other Hungarian patriotic and opposition websites will be the targets of the rightophobic Socialist Liberal government in a crackdown of any criticising voices or parties. The Chinese-style censorship and closure of the newsportal*Kuruc.info might have been supported and aided*by other lobby groups as kuruc.info*stepped on toes by being*the first newsportal to report Israeli PM Simon Peres' infamous speech: "We [Israel]*are buying up Manhattan, Poland and Hungary".

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Title: Re: Hungary under Jewish occupation ?
Post by: Sepp44 on July 19, 2008, 02:01:06 PM
Hungarian police detained some 500 illegal migrants coming from Serbia, Hungary's southern neighbor, during the first five months of 2008. That compares to around 700 in all of 2007 and just 120 in 2005.
(http://www.jobbik.com/images/2006-04-20-3.jpg)SZEGED, Hungary (AP) ? The border along Hungary these days is lined with police sporting night-vision goggles, heat sensors and all-terrain vehicles.
That's because since Hungary became part of the European Union's passport-free zone at the end of 2007, the number of illegal migrants caught trying to enter the country from the Balkan region has risen sharply.
Hungarian police detained some 500 illegal migrants coming from Serbia, Hungary's southern neighbor, during the first five months of 2008. That compares to around 700 in all of 2007 and just 120 in 2005.

Once inside Hungary, Balkan migrants ? mostly from Kosovo ? can travel to western Europe probably without having to face further passport checks. Illegal migrants at this part of the EU border also come from Georgia, Afghanistan and China.
Hungary and Serbia share a border of just 55 miles, but the area sits on several north-south routes, including the main Vienna-Belgrade railway and highways which connect Greece to the rest of western Europe.
These links provide crucial orientation points for migrants walking across the border at night through farmlands and forests which otherwise would be mostly indistinguishable from each other.
Hungary has intensified its border patrols and given police better equipment since becoming one of the 24 countries in the Schengen Zone, so named for the Luxembourg town where the arrangement was negotiated. As a result, Hungarian police say they catch up to 98 percent of illegal migrants trying to cross the border from Serbia.
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Gladiator on July 19, 2008, 08:43:39 PM
:D Make our Police and Coast Guards look like the Keystone Cops, Sepp44
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on July 22, 2008, 07:20:47 PM
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                                                   Czech National Party and Jobbik to meet in Pozsony (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=38)
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/Dosa.jpg)Representatives of the Czech National Party NS / National Guard, NG and Jobbik / the Hungarian Guard, MG to meet in the historic city of Pozsony (now Bratislava, Slovakia) on Monday. The Hungarian Guard is to be represented by its commander, Istvan Dosa and Jobbik is by the President of the Foreign Committee, Bela Kovacs. The unusual location of the meeting have created uproar in Slovakia and there might be tensions when the Czech and Hungarian representatives meet in Pozsony (Bratislava).
The Hungarian Guard been repeatedly criticized by Slovak politicians who want Hungarian authorities to clamp down on it.
The NG of the Czech counterpart drew attention to themselves in June when its members patrolled outside a school in Karlovy Vary, West Bohemia, to prevent attacks by Romany children on the schoolchildren.
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Neverwinter on July 23, 2008, 12:23:41 AM
Always good to hear news about Jobbik.  Thank you Sepp for the updates....
;)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on July 23, 2008, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: Neverwinter
Always good to hear news about Jobbik.  Thank you Sepp for the updates....
;)

They met up with Nick Griffin and the BNP not long ago.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on July 23, 2008, 09:25:54 PM
[SIZE=-2]inority, treaty, trianon, WWI, World War, autria, hungary, romania, serbia, yugoslavia, croatia[/SIZE]                           (http://www.webenetics.com/hungary/images/hungary.gif)          
            [SIZE=+3]The Treaty of Trianon              and
 the Dismemberment of Hungary
[/SIZE]                        [SIZE=+1]"We must not forget that the territories on question          are in the vicinity of Russia, the most critical part of Europe today,          and so lie in the path of that advance of Bolshevism which must sooner          or later ensue..."[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]
        [/SIZE]Accurate prophecy from a pamphlet entitled, "Justice for Hungary!",          1932
              [SIZE=+1](http://www.webenetics.com/hungary/images/trianon2.gif)The          Treaty of Trianon (1920)... [/SIZE]
        in the aftermath of WWI, was extremely harsh on Hungary and          unjustifiably one-sided. The resulting "treaty" lost Hungary          an unprecedented 2/3 of her territory, and 1/2 of her total population          or 1/3 of her Hungarian-speaking population. Add to this the loss of up          to 90% of vast natural resources, industry, railways, and other infrastructure.          This was done to a nation whose borders were established          over a thousand years earlier (http://www.webenetics.com/hungary/history.htm) (896 A.D.) and one who lost countless          lives defending the rest of Europe from numerous invasions from the likes          of the Mongolian Tatars and the Ottoman Turks.

Hungary experienced phenomenal economic growth during the latter part          of the 19th century and into the 20th. It's alignment with another economic          powerhouse Germany, alarmed France and Russia. Each needed a way to stave          off German-Hungarian economic competition. With the advent of WWI, France          had her chance and began fostering anti-Hungarian sentiment among non-Magyar          speaking Hungarian nationals. It is important to note that for over a          thousand years, Hungary never experienced ethnic civil war. France, eager          to weaken Hungary, offered to reward those nations and groups that assisted          them in the war with large pieces of territory. The "Little Entente"          of Rumania (who switched sides in the last minute), Czechoslovakia, and          Serbia took that opportunity and got very lucky.
       One thousand years of nation building successfully delineated groups          based on culture, religion and other attributes to create the countries          with which we are so familiar. While some Western European nations would          continue power struggles and princely battles and civil wars, Hungary          was a peaceful multi-ethnic state for those 1000 years and her borders          were unchanged.

The West, in its infinite wisdom, created out of Hungary          and the Austrian Empire the unlikely "nations" of Czechoslovakia          and Yugoslavia. In Yugoslavia, groups that never wanted to live together          were thrust into nationhood. Catholic and Protestant Christian Slovenians,          Croatians and Hungarians were joined to Greek Orthodox and Serbian Orthodox.          All these people were in turn combined with Macedonian church followers,          and then Muslims. The developed Western regions of Slovenia and Croatia          (who was in peaceful confederation with Hungary for 600 years) were "Balkanized"          and now open to Serbian desires to dominate their economic and cultural          landscape. The treaty also doubled the size of a new country called Rumania          which was created only some 60 years earlier. Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia,          the signatories of the treaty, have now ceased to exist, yet the borders          remain unchanged. Civil war, atrocities, rape and killing of children,          and continued          oppression (http://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_vojvodina.htm) are the result of French and allied meddling in Central          Europe. Perhaps they should turn their focus on Switzerland, another stable          multi-ethnic state!

The dictators in these successor states began to foster nationalism and          teach a less-than-accurate history to help bring legitimacy to their regimes.          These claims are based on some seriously unfortunate state propaganda-cum-history          about an ancient Roman          province called Dacia (http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/kos/index.htm). In Rumania, this revised history, accelerated          by Ceaucescu, has become the accepted state historical doctrine even today,          making the process of reconciliation much more difficult. In the newly          formed Czechslovakia, Eduard Benes and his infamous "Benes          Decrees (http://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_benesdecrees.htm)" forcibly expelled thousands and confiscated personal          and church properties. Today, the Slovaks, in what was Northern Hungary,          with their "Language Law" which sounds like something out of          Nazi Germany, forbid the use of Hungarian in official places. Perhaps          more unbelievably, the original bill, which was later amended, also forbade          Hungarian (or any other language) in church. In one of the most recent          attacks on human rights, the Slovaks have made the Hungarian National          Anthem illegal unless an official delegation has been invited by the government.          Still more recently in June '97, a Hungarian teacher was fired because          he handed out bi-lingual grade reports to his students who were mostly          Hungarian. Efforts to guarantee anew the rights of the Hungarian "minorities"          in Slovakia continue. See the additional          steps (http://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_benesdecrees.htm) the Slovak Government has taken against the Hungarian minority.
       Though the United States recommended a more liberal approach in regards          to Hungary, it did not prevail. (http://www.webenetics.com/hungary/images/returned_lands_1938_medium.gif) (http://www.webenetics.com/hungary/images/returned_lands_1938.gif)

The          "self-determination of the nationalities" posited by President          Woodrow Wilson resulted in only one plebiscite in Sopron, in Western Hungary.          The vote was overwhelmingly pro-Hungarian and Sopron remained within the          new borders. Oddly enough, although Austria was also a loser in the war,          she also received a part of Hungary, and Sopron became a border city.          The Hungarians tried to resist, but the French moved troops into Upper          Hungary (now Slovakia) in defiance of the armistice agreement. The Hungarian          delegation at Trianon signed the "treaty" in protest. The dismemberment          and instability brought economic collapse and governmental crisis. A mini-communist          takeover, a republican government, finally gave way to Admiral Miklos          Horthy who took over as "Regent" of of Hungary and brought stability          back to the country. The new government got to work on trying to revise          the unjst treaty. Sadly, the US with its growing isolationist stance,          pulled out of the League of Nations and Western Europe wanted no part          in re-opening the case. France was focused on making sure Germany was          punished and paid its "reparations" even though it was France          who declared war on Germany! The Hungarians got a sympathetic ear from          only Italy and Germany. This tragic alliance initially gained Hungary          part of her northern territory from Czechoslovakia and Northern Transylvania          from Rumania (see Territorial revisions map). But this alliance would          only to plunge her into another disaster and occupations by first Nazis          and later Soviet communists. Her land was again taken. One part of northern          Hungary was then transferred from Czechoslovakia and became part of the          Soviet Union and is today part of the Ukraine.
       
(http://www.webenetics.com/hungary/images/trianon_changes.gif)The          maps here not only show graphically the extent to which the Treaty of          Trianon dismembered Hungary, it shows how much Hungarian-majority areas          were arbitrarily "reassigned.". But the Slovaks, Serbs, and          Rumanians, however, wanted much more. The Rumanians, also in defiance          of the armistice agreement with their new-found French allies, took advantage          of the turmoil in Hungary and moved troops into the defenseless nation          and occupied Budapest and beyond. To this day, the Greater Rumania Party          and other in Rumania still claim territory that includes the river Tisza          and even Budapest. Hungarians today are the one of the largest minorities          in Europe and face oppression and violence. Numbering in the millions,          Hungarian minorities are second only to the Russians who became "minorities"          with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Hungarians live under harsh          persecution in the new states created by the treaty. The Helsinki Watch          Committee called Romanian efforts to "purify" Transylvania as          "Cultural Genocide."

It is important to remember that the regions transferred were not part          of the Austrian "Empire" and "deserving" of liquidation,          but rather integral parts of Hungary who was herself part of the Austrian          Empire and fought two bloody revolutions to free herself. PLUS, THERE          WAS NO VOTE, except in a town called Sopron who voted to remain part of          Hungary despite the turmoil facing the nation in 1920. Today, these "minorities"          in their own lands are calling for autonomy and restitution of properties          illegally seized. As expected, their actions are called radical and revisionist,          and these governments do what they can to prevent justice. Despite the          thousands of legal cases in Rumania, for example, demanding church and          synagogue restitutions as provided under Rumanian laws, only a scant 1%          of these have been adjudicated. When will this all end? http://www.webenetics.com/hungary/trianon.htm (http://www.webenetics.com/hungary/trianon.htm)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on July 24, 2008, 10:10:03 PM
Lawyer initiates action against Nazi film being screened in Budapest                
                                       Thursday,                      July 24, 2008                    (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/graphiques/home/printer.gif) (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=2427#)                   (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/graphiques/home/mail.gif) (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=2427#)                                                                                                                             (http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/IMG/arton2427.jpg)  Click here to see the original article in Politics.hu website  (http://www.politics.hu/20080718/lawyer-initiates-action-against-nazi-film-being-screened-in-budapest)
                 
Politics.hu website
 



A Budapest lawyer speaking on condition of anonymity told N?pszabads?g yesterday that he has begun prohibition proceedings for the 1941 pro-Nazi film "Jud S?ss." The film was recently screened for several nights in a cellar in Budapest?s 13th District.
 The lawyer, who said many of his family were victims of Nazism, told the liberal daily that the Paris Peace Treaty, which was signed by Hungary amongst other countries in 1947, contains a provision banning the operation of fascist organisations and the dissemination of such ideology.
 A Budapest Prosecutor General?s Office staff member confirmed that a letter had been received from the lawyer on July 14, but no substantive measures had yet been taken.
 The lawyer also said the far right website kuruc.info was stopped at his initiative after he had sent a letter to US House of Representatives speaker Nancy Pelosi, the New York Times and the US ambassador to Hungary April H. Foley. Kuruc.info was pulled on July 4, one day before the Budapest gay parade. It now functions via a German-registered server.
 Meanwhile the 13th District chapter of the Free Democrats said it will file a report to the authorities over the recent screening of "Jud S?ss." District chapter leader Viktor Szabadai told reporters on Thursday that the film can only be screened in Europe with permission from the German foundation that holds the screening rights, but the organisers did not have a permit to screen the film.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on August 07, 2008, 08:32:14 PM
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'Patriotic voters at 10%' - Jobbik? (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=40)

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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/sub_wm2.jpg)In May 2008, Szazadveg-Forsense, an opinion research institute published their survey about political party preference marking Jobbik, the Movement for a Better Hungary at 7% popularity amongst political parties. Every survey made by research companies usually put Jobbik at about 1-2%, so there was an uproar when this was published. It now seems a common practice not to mention Jobbik in the opinion polls or to fabricate these polls. Now Szonda-Ipsos, another research institute attempts to explain their new findings:

Patriotic (what they call radical nationalist) voters make up 9-10% of all voters in Hungary. As no political party associated with these voters in the survey - let's assume they would be Jobbik voters and see if they fall into the 'stereotype' of Jobbik voters: Tibor Zavecs, director of Szonda-Ipsos explains:

- These voters prefer order rather than liberal democracy what they in fact consider anarchy. They think they have to step up and the strongest call for them is 'being Hungarian'.


- They have a strong presence in this depressive, faithless political atmosphere: their voice gets further and popular amongst the youth.


- These 7-800 thousand voters are extremely communicative. Always active, participate in political demonstrations and events. These voters have about 80-90% willingness to go to the polls and vote, compared to the avarage willingness that fall below 50% in the society.


- These 9-10% voters would not vote for Fidesz either, the (now) main opposition party.

No political parties were mentioned Tibor Zavecs' explanation but the above description about this 9-10% have a strong implication just who they would vote for.
http://www.jobbik.com/


 
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on August 24, 2008, 02:47:53 PM
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                                                   20th August - St.Stephen and the Hungarian state (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=42)
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/180px-Istvan.jpg)Hungary's most important bank holiday, 20th August commemorates Stephen I of Hungary, our first king and the foundation of the Hungarian state. This year brings another vicious rightophobic attack by the Socialist-Liberal government against Hungarians: The Holy Crown of Hungary now banned from state celebrations. The continious attacks against Hungarian and Christian values now widespread in the Carpathian Basin but one can only hope that Jobbik, The Movement For A Better Hungary will preserve and reinstate these values when they are voted in the Parliament at the next general elections at 2010.

More here (http://www.jobbik.com/).
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on September 03, 2008, 11:44:46 PM
Europe
                                            Jobbik's new EU-candidate: Dr Krisztina Morvai (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2012_articleid=19)
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/zsmorvaiep2.jpg)Gabor Vona, President of Jobbik, The Movement For A Better Hungary announced yesterday that Dr Krisztina Morvai will be nominated first as EU-parliament candidate for next year's EU elections. Below the statement from Gabor Vona:

I think that today we had a day of historic importance, when the national party takes a step of many miles on the way, where the Hungarian people can take their fate into their own hands eventually. We invited criminal lawyer Dr. MORVAI Krisztina to stand at the lead of the party list, and take the national thought into the European Parliament. As the answer was positive, so we have an opportunity as from tomorrow to visit the county seats during our country tour with an eye to this noble cause. In the course of the lectures and in our whole campaign in the EU elections the service of the interests of the Hungarian people and the demand for a human centred public life will provide the fundament of our visions.

We would like to tell our own thoughts, and get familiarised with the experiences of the people, also to collect their questions, so that we can produce a Union platform right in this year, which would be suitable for the representation of our values and interests, and which would cut a path in the forest of lies related to the EU.

I hold it important to point out that as from this day I expect not only the beginning of the road leading to our success in the Union, but also the starting point of the cleaning process of the public life in our homeland. MORVAI Krisztina and the representatives of the Jobbik Party can only represent our homeland effectively and genuinely, if they have a strong and stabile hinterland behind their back. Our country tour and the era lying before us are not only about the EU, but first and foremost about Hungary, and the Hungarian people. It is our objective, which is not to be hidden; to overwrite the fake lines existing in the domestic politics. The presently existing right-wing-left wing boundary is namely fake and so it cannot really address the genuine problems of our present and our future, either. It is time for everybody at last, to come to the sun, in order to see who stands on which side of the real barricade, on the globalist side or where the national forces stand. We showed our face, and we will force everybody to do the same! More here. (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2012_articleid=19)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 04, 2008, 11:42:06 AM
Jobbic will join our Nova Europa group -
and Hungarian enclaves, regions in Romania and elsewhere will achieve their autonomy.
We will more than reach the 25 threshold.

Imperium
0908

Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on September 14, 2008, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Today, the Slovaks, in what was Northern Hungary, with their "Language Law" which sounds like something out of Nazi Germany, forbid the use of Hungarian in official places.

Sounds like something from Poland or Czechoslovakia in the 30s.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on September 19, 2008, 09:43:22 AM
Racist pub bans woman for being black

                    By Victoria Ward               17/09/2008 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/09/17/)              
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A British tourist was refused service in two pubs in Hungary because she was black.
     Laure Mague, 34, went to a bar to watch football with friends but was furious when told she was barred.
     She said yesterday: "I couldn't believe it. I've never had anything like that in my life.
     "She was so blunt, straight to my face. I was completely shocked.
     "They might as well have put a sign on the door 'No Blacks Allowed'."
     Laure, from Balham, South London, who was on holiday in Budapest, said: "I went up to the bar and the waitress asked if I spoke English or Hungarian. I said English.
 
     "And then she said: 'I can't serve you because black people had a fight in here a few days ago. My boss has told me not to serve black customers'. I was so stunned I just walked out. But it hit me later and I got so angry.
     "It's not like we're in 60s America. This is 21st century Europe. It is disgusting." Laure and her friends then went to another bar the next night but again a barmaid refused to serve her after "a group of black people had been rowdy, scaring off white customers".
     Racial discrimination is outlawed in the EU, which Hungary joined in 2004. The European Network Against Racism said: "Sadly, it happens surprisingly often but it can be hard to prosecute as it's difficult to prove.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on September 19, 2008, 09:50:28 AM
Quote from: IMPERIUM
Jobbic will join our Nova Europa group -
and Hungarian enclaves, regions in Romania and elsewhere will achieve their autonomy.
We will more than reach the 25 threshold.

Imperium
0908

How would one address jobbiks demands for revision of the Trianon agreement and are these demands realistic in todays geopolitical climate?
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 19, 2008, 02:59:19 PM
We will not recognize, in fact we will ignore, treaties and former arrangements and promises.
What we will address are Ethnicities and Regions - wherever they may be.
An organic solution to the myriad problems created by the artificial Nation States

Imperium
0908

Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on September 25, 2008, 12:44:38 AM
Quote from: IMPERIUM
We will not recognize, in fact we will ignore, treaties and former arrangements and promises.
What we will address are Ethnicities and Regions - wherever they may be.
An organic solution to the myriad problems created by the artificial Nation States

Imperium
0908


A fine solution:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on September 25, 2008, 12:47:06 AM
Meanwhile,in the absence of the Imperium....





Foreign-trained far left police clash with Hungarians (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=46)
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(http://www.jobbik.com/images/15_0.jpg)Troubled PM Gyurcsany has found a new ally in his slow agony of death to finally and awaitedly exit Hungarian politics: Romani gypsies. PM Gyurcsany announced the establishment of a new "Democratic" Charta in September and called the "masses" of supporters to the street to demonstrate against "racism". The Roma Association in Hungary was quick to join Gyurcsany and his Charta promising hundreds of thousands of Romani gipsies on the street of Budapest for 20 September as a counter-measure of the Hungarian Guard.
Political analysts had and still do warn of a possible civil war in Hungary and Gyurcsany seems to be playing with fire in his last desperate attempt to involve the Roma. There are millions of Hungarians in the countryside who simply had enough of the incompetence of the police and the law not defending them from the hordes of organised Roma criminals and who turn to the Hungarian Guard for help and support. The growth of the Guard and the popularity of Jobbik initiated good old communist tactics from Gyurcsany's government and the manipulated media: the Guard and Jobbik are labelled fascist, racist and extreme.

What worked after 1956, when freedom fighters were labeled the same by the communist regime, now is even more sophisticated and more effective, even foreign/western media adopt Hungarian news from Gyurcsany's factory of lies.

So what happened on the 20th September in Budapest? Gyurcsany's "Democratic" Charter attracted just over a thousand hard-line Socialist elderly pensioners and some hundreds of Roma activists. Patriotic Hungarian organisations such as the Sixty-four Counties Youth Movement and Jobbik also held a demonstration on the same day remembering the recent victims of the Roma crime-wave as a counter-event to the "Democratic" Charter.

The peaceful patriotic crowd, some 2-3000 people then marched to Szabadsag Square later in the afternoon. During the march there was a sign of provocation already, 1 (one!) provocateur wearing a swastika that provided a perfect accidental opportunity for some photographers to take pictures. At Szabadsag Square, about a dozen other troublemakers hurled  shoes, stones and bottles at the riot-police. The riot police used this perfect opportunity to disperse the peaceful 2-3000 strong demonstration instead of the handful of troublemakers, firing new-formula, military used CR gas into the crowd that caused severe reactions to some including vomiting, heavy breathing and spitting up blood.

The admittedly foreign-trained riot police then chased the crowd through the streets of Budapest, even firing teargas into Hazateres Church in Szabadsag Square where demonstrators fled to.

Gyurcsany and his media succeeded in creating an event on this day that came across in most headlines in Europe as "far-right protesters clashed with police". The whole case of events fit into a script that had been predicted before they happened. Whether the troublemakers were provocateurs paid to cause attractions or just impatient, uncontrollable youngsters provoked by the police - the fact remains that Gyurcsany provoked this day's events.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on September 25, 2008, 12:54:17 AM
Whilst Malta offers this....

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to the European Union on behalf of the socialist African Union,Hungary and the jobbik offer  this ...............


A Statement Made by Dr Morvai Krisztina (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2012_articleid=20)
 (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2012_articleid=20)By Dr Krisztina Morvai
Published:  September,9 2008
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Who would you vote for?
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Gladiator on September 25, 2008, 03:31:08 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Whilst Malta offers this....
 
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to the European Union on behalf of the socialist African Union,Hungary and the jobbik offer this ...............
 
 
A Statement Made by Dr Morvai Krisztina (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2012_articleid=20)
 (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2012_articleid=20)By Dr Krisztina Morvai
Published: September,9 2008
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http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=46 (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=46)
 
 
Who would you vote for?

She is a half breed of a Mongrel and an Arab! Is she a decendant of Ganis Khan by any chance?
L'ostra man my dog is better looking.:p
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on September 25, 2008, 07:12:45 PM
Quote from: Gladiator
She is a half breed of a Mongrel and an Arab! Is she a decendant of Ganis Khan by any chance?
L'ostra man my dog is better looking.:p


Maybe your dog is better looking,but I wouldn't want to sleep with either of them !! Now Dr.Morvai Krisztina ........... yep ( I know that is sexist,but why lie ? )
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Gladiator on September 25, 2008, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Maybe your dog is better looking,but I wouldn't want to sleep with either of them !! Now Dr.Morvai Krisztina ........... yep ( I know that is sexist,but why lie ? )

hey buddy my dog though small she bites!!!:(
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on September 25, 2008, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: Gladiator
hey buddy my dog though small she bites!!!:(


I neither want to sleep with a women or a dog that is small and bites !! LOL:)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on September 25, 2008, 09:30:41 PM
With all due respect Sepp44, I must criticize Jobbik's Magyar G?rda for their somewhat distasteful uniform design. I much prefer their older design (pre-2007).
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on October 15, 2008, 12:40:30 AM
After coming under server attack from unknown attackers read 'the usual suspects',jobbik.hu,the web portal of the Hungarian right is back up and running.They kick of with the announcement that Nick Griffin of the BNP is to speak in Budapest.
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1956 commemorials in Budapest
Published: October,14 2008
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More than 50  memorial events have been authorised by the Budapest Police for the 52nd anniversary of the 1956 uprising and freedom fight. There will be a number of state, government and local council memorials across Budapest that usually attract only a few, with unpopular PM Gyurcsany present. Fidesz, the main opposition party will remember in Buda Castle, where the first 56 Hungarian Guard were inducted in 2007.  

Jobbik, The Movement For A Better Hungary and its supporters will remember our national heroes at Erzsebet Square, in the heart of Budapest on the 23rd October. Nick Griffin, chairman of the British National Party has been invited for the event and will address the supporters in Budapest. Mr Griffin and Gabor Vona, President of Jobbik will also discuss current European affairs and next year's EP elections during the visit.
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on October 15, 2008, 04:58:44 PM
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great news sepp :)  to be honest i didn't even know that jobbik was down but am pleased to know its back up and running - and that nick griffin is speaking in budapest.

go jobbik!


I still have my doubts about the sincerity of Nick Griffin,there was a strong rumour that he was on the payroll of MI5--an ex-BNP member declared this after leaving in disgust ! Interesting how his libel case was so easily overturned in Leeds Crown Court--Why ??? To this day many ex-National Front members will have nothing to do with him,why ?? Jealousy or justified lack of trust ????  Just my own observations.
Of more importance to Hungary is that Dr.Morvai Krisztina (EU candidate) for Jobbik will also be speaking.
It will be a VERY big turn out, I will be there---sniffing the CS gas !!!:)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on October 21, 2008, 11:56:42 PM
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Nick Griffin at the general assembly of Jobbik and the Hungarian Guard
Published: October,21 2008
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Gabor VonaJobbik and the Hungarian Guard will rally to pay tribute to the revolution of 1956 and to commemorate the police brutality of 2006.  The traditionally collective ceremony of the two movements will be held in Budapest near De?k square at 3 pm on Thursday, October 23rd.  Leaders of BNP, Nick Griffin, and Jobbik, G?bor Vona will continue discussions prior to the general assembly.

 

 
Speakers to commemorate and to comment on current politics are:

 
?         Dr. Krisztina Morvai, legal activist, leader of Jobbik?s EP party list

 
?         Levente Mur?nyi, convicted freedom fighter of ?56, Jobbik Deputy Chairman and Hungarian Guard Founder

 
?         Nick Griffin, Chairman of the British National Party

 
?         G?bor Vona, Chairman of Jobbik and the Hungarian Guard

 

 
The safe and peaceful observance will be secured by guardsmen.

 

 
Jobbik ? The Movement for a Better Hungary

 
Hungarian Guard

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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on October 30, 2008, 09:57:07 PM
Largest political assembly for 1956 (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2013_articleid=50) : Jobbik, 23 October 2008

Published: October,26 2008
 
Crowd"We have to finish the transition that hasn't happened since 1989" said Gabor Vona, Chairman of Jobbik, Movement For a Better Hungary in his speech on 23 October 2008.
Jobbik and The Hungarian Guard held their 1956 commemorial demonstration that attracted 5-6000 people, making it the largest political event on the 52nd anniversary of the 1956 revolution.

"In the current situation, the most important question is that who will control the media, the land, the water and the energy supplies". "Jobbik's politics are based on 4 pillars; political representation, self-defence, ideology and economic background. We have the first 3 already but the economic background is still missing." Vona continued.

Gabor Vona, Jobbik Chairman also noted that the global financial crisis is a good opportunity to stand up and reorganise, unite Hungarians.

Dr. Krisztina Morvai, Jobbik's new EP candidate referred to unpopular PM Gyurcsany's scandalous speech in 2006, saying that "They lied in the morning, at noon and in the evening while stealing the nation's values. They shot or beat anyone questioning this".

Dr Morvai compared 1956 and today stating that the situation hasn't changed. In 2006 the Socialist-liberal government beat everybody who demonstrated against their politics and now they want national cooperation. In 1956, there was a national cooperation, without the communist murderers.  "In the same way today, we can not cooperate and work together with thiefs and those blinding and beating people in 2006." Dr. Morvai added.

Crowd

Levente Muranyi, 1956 veteran, Jobbik's Vice-President also compared 1956 to 2008. "In 2006 the Socialists humiliated and hurt 1956 veterans. In 2008 they denied to play MP Maria Wittner 1956 veteran's movie in the Parliament about 1956.

52 years ago students and young people's enthusiasm affected the Hungarian society's every level and the revolution was elementary powerful. It was a hot autumn in the middle of the cold war. The uprising swept away the communists in a matter of hours. The communist police and the Red Army was defeated by ill-equipped youngsters of Pest.  On the 4th November the Soviet Red Army crushed the revolution with tanks and their elit troops. "

"Today, the same communists in power try to explain and define 1956 in the light of their interest." - Levente Muranyi continued. He mentioned 2006 when the communists and the inheritors of communist police celebrated the 50th anniversary with fireworks. They contravened the Constitution and Civil Liberties. There was no revolution in 2006 but there are political persecution and political prisoners. Muranyi finished his speech stating that Jobbik is the largest political party now outside the Parliament and Jobbik will shock neo-liberals and communists with their successful election results in 2010.

Special guest Nick Griffin, Chairman of the British National Party also made a comparison to 1956 and the political situation in Europe today. Mr Griffin saluted to the 1956 freedom fighters who were betrayed by the West. However, Hungarians in 1956 stopped the communist threat in Western Europe by bravely standing up against the Soviet dictature, exposing it's true face and methods. The West must be grateful for the 1956 Hungarian revolution, he added.

"Where is the ghost of Stalin?" Mr. Griffin asked. "It is in Brussel, in the EU." "The only difference is that what they did with tanks, now do it with banks. Nationalists in Europe must work and fight together against this tiranny". Finally, Mr Griffin said that Jobbik EP candidate Dr Morvai should be greeted in Brussels in 2009 by the noble Hungarian greeting that should be used by all European nationalists: Adjon az Isten [May God give you]! Szebb jovot! [Better future!] - the crowd replied.

Jobbik's event finished with no atrocities committed by Gyurcsany's police that was out in huge, intimidating numbers.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on October 30, 2008, 10:01:56 PM
Hungary is counting the cost of capitalism (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2012_articleid=24)
By Neil Clark

Published: October,29 2008
 

Hungary followed the IMF?s advice after the fall of communism. The result? Economic collapse and a new IMF loan

PM GyurcsanyIt was the ex-communist country that did everything the West and its neo-liberal economic 'experts' said it should do. It privatised vast swathes of its economy. It allowed free and unhindered access to Western multinationals. It filed up obediently to join Nato and the EU and employed Goldman Sachs to give advice on privatisation.

Now, after 20 years of free-market 'reforms', Hungary, together with the Ukraine, sees the results of its policies: an IMF bail-out.

Hungary's economic collapse gives a lie to the dominant narrative that eastern European countries have thrived since the sweeping political changes of 1989.

I lived and worked in Hungary during the 1990s and saw at first hand the way that the economic 'reforms' insisted upon by the IMF, the World Bank and the EU adversely affected the majority of the population.

Ten years on, and times are even tougher. On a recent visit to Hungary I was shocked by the increase in street beggars and the number of old people I saw searching for scraps in trash cans.

Away from the swanky new Budapest bars around Liszt Ferenc Ter and Vaci Ut which cater for foreign businessmen and home-grown yuppies, the capital has a shabbier, poorer look than it did a decade ago. The fall in living standards became even more apparent when I visited other towns and cities in the country.

The statistics paint a depressing picture. Last year, real wages in Hungary fell by seven per cent. The UN's Food and Agriculture Organisation has reported that 200,000 people in Hungary, including 20,000 children, are under-fed. One in five children are being brought up in poverty, while campaigners predict that recent price hikes of electricity and gas could push a further 3m people into poverty.

The truth is that Hungary, like the Ukraine, has gone backwards, and not forwards since the fall of communism. Even Viktor Orban, the staunchly anti-communist leader of the main conservative opposition party Fidesz, has conceded that for the majority, life was easier in the relatively liberal 'goulash' communism era of the 1970s and 80s.

Despite the selling-off of millions of pounds worth of state assets in the government's mass privatisation programme, Hungary's public finances remain in a poor state. The scale of corruption has been mind-boggling: Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany - whose 'pro-reform' economic policies have been lauded in the West - has an estimated fortune of ?10m, made from controversial privatisation deals in the early 1990s.

The new IMF loan, far from being the salvation that Hungary's political elite is claiming, is likely to make things even worse. The IMF is insisting the government pursues 'strong policies' to reduce its deficit - shorthand for yet more swingeing cuts in public spending. That would mean the final nail in the coffin for the country's chronically under-funded health service; my mother-in-law had to bring in her own toilet paper during a hospital stay this summer.

The IMF loan is also likely to mean the enforced privatisation of the few assets remaining in state ownership, regardless of widespread public opposition.

"What's the difference between communism and capitalism?" is the joke currently doing the rounds in Budapest. Answer: "Under communism we had a big government debt but we lived well. Under capitalism we have a big government debt but we don't live well."

(TheFirstPost, kuruc.info)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on October 30, 2008, 10:16:22 PM
Public address (http://www.jobbik.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2012_articleid=24) from the chairman of the BNP,Nick Griffin to the supporters of Jobbik in Budapest.(duration10.52 mins)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Gladiator on October 31, 2008, 02:49:57 PM
Cost of Capitalism for Hungary is 25 Billion from the IMF!!!!!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Stephen Farrugia on November 16, 2008, 11:42:08 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
has the Sun run out of tits to publish on its pages?
top euro nazi hate site .... my ass gonzi$

Page 3 did make a lot of sense, it gave my day a positive start and motivation:D
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on November 17, 2008, 04:46:01 AM
A Hungarian man came into the store today - he was extremely well mannered. I did not catch the language, but I knew it to be Slavic-"like". We bantered gibberish back and forth and looked around until we found an electronic translation - which is what he was after, which translated amazingly in Hungarian. I've noticed that Hungarians seem to have very distinctive noses, in the bridge especially.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 14, 2009, 12:30:46 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
so jobbik's gone?
and where's ricsi?  he hasn't posted in ages!

Thanks for your concern ! Ricsi is still here,often reading your excellent forum.:)

Jobbik is yet more successful,taking almost 10% of votes in a 'red' ward of the city of P?cs. As for the English language forum,it was taken down after continuous attacks by certain members of the 'tribe' leading to the exposure and harrasment of the Jobbik overseas representative in the UK. The party needs to concentrate totally on the EU election and local seats and can not afford damaging allegations and character assassinations from the 'liberals' and their cronies.
Several of the writers had e-mail attacks and viruses sent, perhaps when idiots react in such a way it is a sure sign that Jobbik is doing something right and ruffling feathers.

Sepp--yes,your local Schwabs voted for the correct side ! Though only 44% of the electorate chose to vote-the rest are too tired of this political sham.
Fidesz 66%, Socialists 34% (No other parties contested the mayors post)
:)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 14, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Greetings Rich.Did you stand in the Pecs elections?10% is a damned good showing.:)

Hi ! Good to hear from you.
It was a local resident in the 'kertv?ros' district who stood-this as always been a notorious 'red' district,so 10% on such a low turn out is indeed excellent.

Going back to the Jobbik forum debate--The English section was run from the UK, and the 'Sun' newspaper traced the operator,he had posed in photos with the BNP leaders,they then did a total character assassination and used quotes from the forum,I heard that his English wife was forced to leave and now uses the 'Nazi extremist' excuse to forbid him access to his children.(so much for love and trust).
Here in Hungary one guy was traced to his 'Facebook' entry (He was silly enough to use the same handle/name) and then found messages on it saying he was seeking gay lovers etc...
The 'Naci vadasz' (Nazi hunters) group threatned me but we traced one of them instead-He was called Szallai Jozsef and operates on a municipal library computer in Toronto,Canada !! spreading hate and antagonising all who show patriotism.
We have to tread quietly for now because this Government in its dying days is desperate to push through 'hate crime and hate speech' legislation,despite Hungarys econmic crisis,they think it is more important to ban freedom of speech.
Sorry for a long winded comment,but these things need to be said-Hungary is still in the hands of a ruling elite of former commies/socialist hypocrites with the liberalist lobbyists having too great an influence,but we feel change is inevitable--hence all the dirty tricks from the 'tribe' and the liberals.
Best wishes
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Neverwinter on May 14, 2009, 02:01:58 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Sorry for a long winded comment,but these things need to be said-Hungary is still in the hands of a ruling elite of former commies/socialist hypocrites with the liberalist lobbyists having too great an influence,but we feel change is inevitable--hence all the dirty tricks from the 'tribe' and the liberals.
Best wishes
Truly heartening news.  Thank you for the update.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 14, 2009, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Neverwinter
Truly heartening news.  Thank you for the update.

Thanks for your interest in our little country!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: marco polo on May 15, 2009, 10:03:55 AM
@ricsi.

see this is a perfect example of our philosophy. most of us here have no connection whatsoever in hungary but we understand we all share common problems and are all part of the same civilisation.

we dont seek to change hungary (for the bad) in any way, the same as you have no desire to change malta.

this is in essence how IE would work in practice. cooperate on what is common and diverge on what is not.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 15, 2009, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
thanks to you for continuing to visit our forum and for taking an interest in our tiny island :)

good to see you ricsi!

I was never far away, just reading and observing !;)
Keep up the good work-positive vibes are appearing day by day.:)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 06, 2009, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
June 03, 2009,  9:31 CET

          Political Pest
          Please accept our apologies for somehow never mentioning that Hungary's terrifying new "Nazi" leader is happily married to a Jew (http://www.politics.hu/20090603/please-accept-our-apologies-for-somehow-never-mentioning-that-hungarys-terrifying-new-nazi-leader-is-happily-married-to-a-jew)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
       
          (http://www.politics.hu/entry_images/krisztis-secret.jpg)With just a few days left before this year's European Parliament balloting, it's pretty clear that the big story of the EP election in Hungary is the strong likelihood that the right-wing Jobbik will be the only minor party to send a representative to Strasbourg. Meanwhile, much of the foreign media's coverage of Jobbik's rise has focused on its charismatic EP list leader, academic/layer Krisztina Morvai. Yet among all the thousands of words spilled profiling Morvai and her party - typified by this interview in last week's Budapest Times (http://www.budapesttimes.hu/content/view/12071/219/), and this frustrated "non-interview" in the UK Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/5372983/Feminine-face-of-Hungarys-far-Right-Jobbik-movement-seeks-MEPs-seat.html) - one seemingly crucial detail is always omitted: that Movai is married to a Jew who isn't even right-wing (television reporter Gy?rgy Bal?). What this all means I have no idea, though if there was ever a topic made for open comments, this would have to be it. Go wild, kids.



She is actually seperated from him,though still married.It was announced almost 2 years ago when she joined Jobbik that her husband was a left leaning Jewish-Hungarian--No big secret,but as usual our enemies are capitalising on this coincidently just before tomorrows EU elections--old news regurgitated to confuse the masses.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: praefectus on June 07, 2009, 12:18:56 PM
Hungarian sounded "slavic like" uh?... apparently, you don't know what slavic languages sounds like, because Hungarian doesn't sound Slavic at all.

Quote from: ComradeDTAII
A Hungarian man came into the store today - he was extremely well mannered. I did not catch the language, but I knew it to be Slavic-"like". We bantered gibberish back and forth and looked around until we found an electronic translation - which is what he was after, which translated amazingly in Hungarian. I've noticed that Hungarians seem to have very distinctive noses, in the bridge especially.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on June 07, 2009, 05:29:01 PM
Quote from: praefectus
Hungarian sounded "slavic like" uh?... apparently, you don't know what slavic languages sounds like, because Hungarian doesn't sound Slavic at all.
It seems that over 20% of Hungarian root words derives from Slavic loanwords. Making it the second largest source of loanwords in the entire language.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 07, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: ComradeDTAII
It seems that over 20% of Hungarian root words derives from Slavic loanwords. Making it the second largest source of loanwords in the entire language.


You are indeed correct.Like all languages many loan words have been adopted,reflecting close contacts,occupations etc...
However the Hungarian language survives uniquely in a sea of Slavic and German languages.
The original Bulgarians were true comrades to Hungarians with a similar heritage (look at the flags) yet they succumbed to  the Slav influence and now have lost the original language,nevertheless they remain a great people.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Neverwinter on June 07, 2009, 07:36:43 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Thanks for your interest in our little country!
I will visit there one day.  Hungary is a beautiful country with a beautiful people and culture.  Never let the flame die comrade.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 07, 2009, 10:25:24 PM
Great news, just announced on Hungarian state TV--EU Election results
Jobbik wins 15% and gets 3 seats in EU against all polls predictions of about 5% and one seat.
The ruling ex commie socialist party only got 4 seats
The neo-liberal zionist Liberal Socialist 0 seats !
The MDF party (Hungarys traditional third party) only I seat
Fidesz (conservative opposition) 14 seats.

GO JOBBIK !!!!
Szebb j?v?t
Title: JOBBIK victory
Post by: ricsi on June 07, 2009, 10:35:32 PM
Hungarian state TV announced our EU election results today.

Hungarian far right JOBBIK wins 15% of votes and gains 3 seats
Outstanding first attempt from a party that was predicted by all pollsters to win 1 seat with around 5% votes.

Ruling socialist scum win only 4 seats
Opposition zionist funded liberal win NO seats:D
MDF party win 1 seat
Fidesz (leading opposition/conservative) take the rest.

Good news at last for all 'right' thinking peoples.:)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: marco polo on June 07, 2009, 10:36:36 PM
well done hungary! keep marching and keep a seat warm for us.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 07, 2009, 10:39:28 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
well done to our friends at Jobbik - and particularly to Risci :)


Ricsi not Risci ! but thanks--I do lead a 'risky' life sometimes:)
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: shadow cup on June 07, 2009, 10:43:23 PM
Cangratulations on making headway ^_^
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: ricsi on June 07, 2009, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: shadow cup
Cangratulations on making headway ^_^


Thanks !
It is just officially confirmed at 14.8% and 3 seats.:)
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: marco polo on June 07, 2009, 11:10:46 PM
well i voted on thursday and still dont have results. here they count in roman numerals.
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: ricsi on June 07, 2009, 11:20:48 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
when did your country vote?  and when did voting close?

here we voted yesterday and voting closed at 10pm, however official results will be issued on tuesday at 4pm.

yes, we still use an abacus to calculate :rolleyes:


We voted today,polling stations open at 7 am and closed at 7 pm,I actually went at 6.15 pm to vote.
Sorry you are so slow over there !:D
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: marco polo on June 07, 2009, 11:30:19 PM
its all the paprika you eat!
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: ricsi on June 07, 2009, 11:34:02 PM
Quote from: Marco Polo
its all the paprika you eat!

You know what they say about Hungary -kicsi de er?s (small but hot!)
The best food,the best wine and the BEST girls.
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: praefectus on June 08, 2009, 12:14:40 AM
Correction:

(Maybe) best food, best wine ...

Czechs have the best girls :P

Quote from: ricsi
You know what they say about Hungary -kicsi de er?s (small but hot!)
The best food,the best wine and the BEST girls.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: praefectus on June 08, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Which words are those? :-)

Those "slav" words could be of Latin or Greek in origin .... what's the point? All whites who speak an Indo-European language have similar roots -- Hungarians speak a non-Indo-European language, but are Indo-European peoples - therefore, it'd seem obvious and normal for them to have kept some of those words.  Or to borrow (in this case, more from Germans than Slavs).

20% hardly means it'd sound Slavic.

--> The Bulgarians are mainly Slavic with Greek influence ... populations change ... the origin of the original Bulgars is still in dispute last time I checked.


Quote from: ComradeDTAII
It seems that over 20% of Hungarian root words derives from Slavic loanwords. Making it the second largest source of loanwords in the entire language.
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: ricsi on June 08, 2009, 12:24:09 AM
Quote from: praefectus
Correction:

(Maybe) best food, best wine ...

Czechs have the best girls :P

No! Czech's only have the best beer-for sure!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ogenoct on June 08, 2009, 01:59:02 AM
Quote from: praefectus
Hungarians speak a non-Indo-European language, but are Indo-European peoples

The Hungarians are NOT an Indo-European people.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: marco polo on June 08, 2009, 02:05:27 AM
Quote from: ogenoct
The Hungarians are NOT an Indo-European people.

and jews are?
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on June 08, 2009, 02:12:01 AM
Quote from: praefectus
Which words are those? :-)
Unfortunately I don't know. Perhaps ricsi could give you a list of some kind.
Quote
Those "slav" words could be of Latin or Greek in origin .... what's the point?
Well in my case the point seems to be that I heard something and attributed it to whatever sounded familiar. In this case that the Hungarian language - a very living and changing language - sounded Slavic-like, or, perhaps if it'd comfort you, somewhat Slavic, which a 5th of it is.
Quote
All whites who speak an Indo-European language have similar roots -- Hungarians speak a non-Indo-European language, but are Indo-European peoples - therefore, it'd seem obvious and normal for them to have kept some of those words. Or to borrow (in this case, more from Germans than Slavs).
Of course, I disagree on no specific point, other than you attacking me based upon a perception rooted in truth, perhaps embellished.
Quote
20% hardly means it'd sound Slavic.
You're correct, but it still seems to have some sway over my opinion. The man sounded Slavic like, I never said Slavic, and my exposure to Ugric languages is very limited.
Quote from: ogenoct
The Hungarians are NOT an Indo-European people.
You're probably upset over the Debrecen encirclement and 1956 Revolution. Here, I have some medicine which should sooth that.

(http://library.stanford.edu/depts/spc/exhibits/Images/51large.jpg)
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: Gladiator on June 08, 2009, 02:35:19 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Hungarian state TV announced our EU election results today.
 
Hungarian far right JOBBIK wins 15% of votes and gains 3 seats
Outstanding first attempt from a party that was predicted by all pollsters to win 1 seat with around 5% votes.
 
Ruling socialist scum win only 4 seats
Opposition zionist funded liberal win NO seats:D
MDF party win 1 seat
Fidesz (leading opposition/conservative) take the rest.
 
Good news at last for all 'right' thinking peoples.:)

Great news :D
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: NormanSoldier on June 08, 2009, 04:19:52 PM
Congratulations Hungary!

You have a more decent and mature electorate there it seems!



P.S Czech or Hungarian women?Now that's a big dilemma!
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: ricsi on June 08, 2009, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: NormanSoldier
Congratulations Hungary!

You have a more decent and mature electorate there it seems!



P.S Czech or Hungarian women?Now that's a big dilemma!

Joking aside,Czech or Hungarian,they are all beauties as are Poles,Russians and Bulgarians .In fact beauty can be found everywhere so let us just enjoy it in our respective countries!
(Though British girls really do need to lose weight and learn dress sense:D)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 08, 2009, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: ComradeDTAII
Unfortunately I don't know. Perhaps ricsi could give you a list of some kind.
 Well in my case the point seems to be that I heard something and attributed it to whatever sounded familiar. In this case that the Hungarian language - a very living and changing language - sounded Slavic-like, or, perhaps if it'd comfort you, somewhat Slavic, which a 5th of it is.
 Of course, I disagree on no specific point, other than you attacking me based upon a perception rooted in truth, perhaps embellished.
 You're correct, but it still seems to have some sway over my opinion. The man sounded Slavic like, I never said Slavic, and my exposure to Ugric languages is very limited.
 You're probably upset over the Debrecen encirclement and 1956 Revolution. Here, I have some medicine which should sooth that.

(http://library.stanford.edu/depts/spc/exhibits/Images/51large.jpg)


That's not medicine, just some de-lousing compound !
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on June 08, 2009, 06:06:48 PM
If any place needed a delousing, it's here.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: praefectus on June 08, 2009, 07:15:03 PM
Why not?

According to Cavalli-Sforza, they are ...

Quote from: ogenoct
The Hungarians are NOT an Indo-European people.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 08, 2009, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: praefectus
Why not?

According to Cavalli-Sforza, they are ...

What is your problem? Your boyfriend seems to know the reality!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on June 08, 2009, 11:21:34 PM
Quote from: ricsi
What is your problem? Your boyfriend seems to know the reality!
If only you Hungarians betrayed the Reich like Romania when the first Russian walked over the border - maybe today Constantin would call you Aryans for your service to the Mongreland.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 09, 2009, 11:15:26 AM
Quote from: ComradeDTAII
If only you Hungarians betrayed the Reich like Romania when the first Russian walked over the border - maybe today Constantin would call you Aryans for your service to the Mongreland.


So true.
Hungary like Finland fought to the very end for its nation.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ogenoct on June 10, 2009, 12:46:41 AM
Quote from: ricsi
Hungary like Finland fought to the very end for its nation.
 
LOL!!! Thanks for the insight, Atilla!

Quit the childish insults please - Mpolo
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ogenoct on June 10, 2009, 12:47:28 AM
Quote from: praefectus
According to Cavalli-Sforza, they are ...

I am sure HE knows best... Quote?
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ogenoct on June 10, 2009, 01:02:44 AM
from: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119002738/abstract (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119002738/abstract)
 
Quote
The history of Hungary starts in the 9th century with the arrival of the Magyars in the Carpathian Basin. They spoke, like modern Hungarians, an Uralic language belonging to the Finno-Ugric language group. Their original composition probably included Iranian and Turkish people, while other populations were already present in the territory (Avars, Slavs, Germans). Some of the Hungarian ethnic groups claim to be descendants of ancient Magyars settlers (such as the ?rs?g), others of Huns, Turks or Iranians. We collected and compared the previously published gene frequencies of eight ethnic groups and seven hypothetical ancestral populations, including Uralics, applying a model of admixture. The results, most of which confirm historical hypotheses or the oral tradition, show that only one ethnic group (?rs?g) highly resembles the Uralic population.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 10, 2009, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: ogenoct
from: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119002738/abstract (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119002738/abstract)


So it's not Huns but ?rs?g! LOL my point exactly.:)
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: ricsi on June 19, 2009, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
First of all,a question for Ricsi.How realistic is Jobbiks' desires to re-instate Hungary's pre WW1 borders and how could it ever be achieved?

Secondly!In an ideal world under the control of Imperium Europa,how would Imperium reconcile Jobbiks demands/desires.Is it an Imperium or a Dominium issue?Could such an issue ever be reconciled within the Imperium?

ps.This is not the first time that I have asked these questions.I ask again because now Jobbik have three elected MEPs' and the Hungarian blogospere has a new bone to chew.

Hi Sepp,we do not actually want to re-draw the borders as such,but a recognition of the wrongs of Trianon followed by autonomy for the Hungarians outside todays borders,after all the EU 'borderless' state makes connections easy except for non-EU Ukraine.
Let us not forget the current demography today,apart from a few villages we have very few Hungarians in Croatia,Austria.but a sizable minority in the Slovak and Ukrainian border region,Romania has a very large Hungarian minority but the commies moved many Romanians into the border regions thus isolating ethnic Hungarians in the mountain region 'Erdely/Translyvannia' well away from the current border. A difficult scenario to address correctly.:)
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: ricsi on June 19, 2009, 12:53:02 PM
Oh my God,its Friday ! Stay away from the keyboard Sepp !! LOL
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 19, 2009, 02:06:25 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Hi Sepp,we do not actually want to re-draw the borders as such,but a recognition of the wrongs of Trianon followed by autonomy for the Hungarians outside todays borders,after all the EU 'borderless' state makes connections easy except for non-EU Ukraine.
Let us not forget the current demography today,apart from a few villages we have very few Hungarians in Croatia,Austria.but a sizable minority in the Slovak and Ukrainian border region,Romania has a very large Hungarian minority but the commies moved many Romanians into the border regions thus isolating ethnic Hungarians in the mountain region 'Erdely/Translyvannia' well away from the current border. A difficult scenario to address correctly.:)

Regional disputes, re-drawing of regions: is Territory.
Hence, an Imperium prerogative.
The Imperium will let things evolve before taking decisions.

There will be voluntary migrations - resettlements, an adjustment of Populations and Regions.
This will apply all over the Imperium - including the Baltics.
An organic rearrangement, readjustment, reordering.

Once the Regions are defined, then there will be complete freedom within them.
Let us remember that Croats and Serbians had started intermarrying -
before the World Enemy, those Eternal Rodents, rent all asunder!

Imperium
0906


Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 20, 2009, 09:58:39 AM
The Imperium will not recognise past treatise between artificial Nation States.
The Imperium will recognise only Race, Folk, Ethnicity.
That will be the underlying factor towards defining the Regions.

During the aftermath of Macmillan's "Wind of Change" madness -
Vervoerd spoke on the radio, addressing Whites all over Africa.
He sternly advised them not to leave their farms, up North and retreat to South Africa.

His valid reason was that these White lights would become future focal points.
The Imperium will adopt the same policy - nobody, no ethnicity will be coerced to leave its present habitat.
It will be an organic transposition of cousin Peoples.

Over time, kind will seek kind - regional ethnic dialect will attract or repel.
Custom, manners, propensity to farming or other ingrained traits, will naturally select neighborhoods and regions.
After all this, over a hundred years : the Imperium will seal the Regional boundaries.

No Region will wage war on another (Georgia).
The Imperial Army will see to that - will guarantee peace.
An Imperium of Regions and Peoples.

Imperium
0906

Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 20, 2009, 01:07:09 PM
The Elite will instill a Supra Nationalism that will trickle down to the Regions.
As Nietzsche used to say : I am a good European.
In the Imperium, children will be inculcated with this Imperial Vision.

It will be an anagogic feeling, an attunement to something bigger than oneself and one's own Region.
A kinship, a pride in belonging to a Race of Biological Aristocrats.
The Imperium IDEA.

External threats will be mercilessly dealt with : China, India, darkest Africa...
Internally, the Rodents will be flushed out and dumped, quarantined in Tasmania.
The Golden Dawn - Kritayuga.

Imperium
0906




Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: ricsi on June 22, 2009, 02:15:27 PM
Quote from: IMPERIUM
The Elite will instill a Supra Nationalism that will trickle down to the Regions.
As Nietzsche used to say : I am a good European.
In the Imperium, children will be inculcated with this Imperial Vision.

It will be an anagogic feeling, an attunement to something bigger than oneself and one's own Region.
A kinship, a pride in belonging to a Race of Biological Aristocrats.
The Imperium IDEA.

External threats will be mercilessly dealt with : China, India, darkest Africa...
Internally, the Rodents will be flushed out and dumped, quarantined in Tasmania.
The Golden Dawn - Kritayuga.

Imperium
0906





Poor Tasmania,why not some other island,nearer to save transport costs in your great 'dump them' operation--say Malta maybe?-rolleyes-
Now can we have a serious,realistic answer regarding questions raised by Sepp instead of some fantasy.
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: ricsi on June 22, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Quote from: ricsi

I understand.But is not what you seek almost identical to the claims made by the Schwabians prior to the outbreak of WW2?Hungary fought tooth and nail in order to deny autonomy for the Schwabs so why should  modern day govts cede to Jobbik?

Imperium stated..quote.."There will be voluntary migrations - resettlements, an adjustment of Populations and Regions.
This will apply all over the Imperium - including the Baltics.
An organic rearrangement, readjustment, reordering.
"

This sounds an ideal solution.


 
I understand but what about Voijvodinja?Not only was it part of the former Kingdom of Hungary but it also contained a large Schwab population.How would Serbia (a non EU member presently)react to claims of autonomy for Hungarians in that region given what the EU and AmeriKa has already done to them?



To a degree,you are also describing the Batschka region,Schwabenland.A conundrum.

 
Agreed,with many many problems.



Sepp
Firstly why should Hungary consider autonomy for the Schwab minority,they were invited to settle in land that was always Hungarian,never German-unlike those Hungarians who found themselves cut off from Hungary and living in 'new' countries after Trianon.

When as a 'voluntary' resettlement ever worked ?

Vojvoidina is the same as the Ukraine,you are right that Serbia,non EU ,could never accept a further dilution of that once great country.Batschka is the same case as true Hungary, the Germans were invited to join the kingdom of Hungary,again never German lands so no autonomy.
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: Jurgenarius on June 22, 2009, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Poor Tasmania,why not some other island,nearer to save transport costs in your great 'dump them' operation--say Malta maybe?-rolleyes-
Now can we have a serious,realistic answer regarding questions raised by Sepp instead of some fantasy.

Cape Verde? :p
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 22, 2009, 03:05:06 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Poor Tasmania,why not some other island,nearer to save transport costs in your great 'dump them' operation--say Malta maybe?-rolleyes-
Now can we have a serious,realistic answer regarding questions raised by Sepp instead of some fantasy.

Malta is a Sacred Island with a 12,000 (at least) history.
Tasmania is a dump - previously inhabited by Aboriginals.
It is rich in minerals, timber, farmland etc., - but of no Spiritual worth.

We can't quarantine The Hidden Enemy too near the Heartland - they would swim their way ashore.
In Tasmania, their nearest neighbours would be the dinner-jacketed penguins, down south.
Rough seas and a naval force would seal them from Australia.

This is the only solution to the Eternal Internal Enemy problem.
It will test their Nation Forming capability - after 4,000 years living as parasites.
It is a Final Solution.

And this is not fantasy or imagination - it is a part of our Vision.
You may not see it just yet, immersed as you are in your endeavours.
Read my forthcoming book - it might, just might open your eyes.

Imperium
0906


Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: marco polo on June 23, 2009, 12:45:05 AM
Quote from: IMPERIUM
Malta is a Sacred Island with a 12,000 (at least) history.
Tasmania is a dump - previously inhabited by Aboriginals.
It is rich in minerals, timber, farmland etc., - but of no Spiritual worth.

We can't quarantine The Hidden Enemy too near the Heartland - they would swim their way ashore.
In Tasmania, their nearest neighbours would be the dinner-jacketed penguins, down south.
Rough seas and a naval force would seal them from Australia.

This is the only solution to the Eternal Internal Enemy problem.
It will test their Nation Forming capability - after 4,000 years living as parasites.
It is a Final Solution.

And this is not fantasy or imagination - it is a part of our Vision.
You may not see it just yet, immersed as you are in your endeavours.
Read my forthcoming book - it might, just might open your eyes.

Imperium
0906



there is actually a valley that is over 400km long we could resettle them. Its called Vallis Rheita

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vallis_Rheita
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vallis_Rheita)
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 24, 2009, 07:09:19 PM
quote sepp44
Quote
If indeed were Lowells vision of Imperium Europa ever come to be and volountary re-settlement programmes were put in place,then I would be very happy.But,I think the reality would be very different.Hungarians claiming rights in Slovakia,Germans claiming rights in Hungary,Romanians claiming rights in Translyvania countered by German rights in Translyvania and the Hungarians saying that Transylvania belongs to them.Oy Vey!

Nobody will have any "Rights"to claim.
All past treaties will be considered dead and buried.
There will be freedom of movement all over the Imperium.

The smaller the Regions, the more the fractions - the better!
Particular identities will be better preserved that way.
And there will be less friction, less potential for wars.

Gradually, Regions will form and solidify - it will be an organic process.

Folk and Ethnicity will determine border of Region and Area.
This process should take a hundred to two hundred years.

Imperium
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Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: marco polo on June 24, 2009, 10:51:14 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Though I like what you say and propose,I don't think it will be all plain sailing and so easy.I await Ricsi' response.
of course it wont. all imperium can do is oversee things so that we dont end up with balkanisation.
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: ricsi on June 25, 2009, 07:59:17 PM
Quote from: IMPERIUM
Malta is a Sacred Island with a 12,000 (at least) history.
Tasmania is a dump - previously inhabited by Aboriginals.
It is rich in minerals, timber, farmland etc., - but of no Spiritual worth.

We can't quarantine The Hidden Enemy too near the Heartland - they would swim their way ashore.
In Tasmania, their nearest neighbours would be the dinner-jacketed penguins, down south.
Rough seas and a naval force would seal them from Australia.

This is the only solution to the Eternal Internal Enemy problem.
It will test their Nation Forming capability - after 4,000 years living as parasites.
It is a Final Solution.

And this is not fantasy or imagination - it is a part of our Vision.
You may not see it just yet, immersed as you are in your endeavours.
Read my forthcoming book - it might, just might open your eyes.

Imperium
0906




I was trying a little sarcasm,you are far too serious to realise the implications of your dreams. sorry.
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: ricsi on June 25, 2009, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Though I like what you say and propose,I don't think it will be all plain sailing and so easy.I await Ricsi' response.

"Folk and ethnicity will determine border and region.." goes a long way to explain why all of Europe is slowly been flooded with immigrants,be it muslims or blacks or chinese.
EU open policy is clearly at fault and should be addressed immediately.But one of humanities weaknesses is that everybody thinks they are better than somebody else,thus borders and national pride and local hatred will always persist.
Sepp you worry about Germans and autonomy,but the only lands Germans actually lost are in Czech republic,Poland and Russia (former East-Prussia/K?nigsberg enclave)and maybe Alsace-Lorraine--NO land in modern or former Hungary was German originally,did you know the Magyars were here twice ,not only 1000 years ago in the well known 'honfogoladas/conquest,but well before then also.:) Unlike other nations who have Balkanised,Germanised or Latinised!, This country has kept true to its origins despite all attempts of conversion,the biggest challenge is taking place right now.
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: ricsi on June 25, 2009, 10:29:10 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Slight change in direction.Have you read this (http://www.vivamalta.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9051) thread about the Waffen SS Division,Prinz Eugen?Speaking to a couple of Serbs today,they say Josef Broz 'Tito' wasn't even Yugoslavian:eek:

So where did he come from? I always thought he was Croatian Yugoslav by birth.
Title: Re: Jobbik and the Trianon agreement.
Post by: ricsi on June 25, 2009, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
The Serb dudes originally mentioned Russia or Poland and that they doubted that he was Croatian.It's new to me.

Ah! Always Russia,apparently Kim of Korea was born in Russia too ! Some Hungarians say B?la Kun was born there also. Maybe nobody really wants to admit ownership!-rolleyes-
Bed time now,drinking too much red wine and scared of making a fool of myself on the forum (yes I am a coward,unlike you!):D
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: Neverwinter on June 27, 2009, 05:19:05 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
June 26, 2009, 10:09 CET

          news
          Poll suggests SZDSZ "obliterated" as support falls below 1%

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             By             MTI                            
       
          The liberal Free Democrats are on their way out and the radical nationalist Jobbik is on its way into parliament, pollster Szazadveg said on Thursday.


More here. (http://www.politics.hu/20090626/poll-suggests-szdsz-obliterated-as-support-falls-below-1)
How refreshing comrade. -thumbup-  A long shitty day grinding at work and yet some good news on the Hungarian front.  Ave!!!
:D
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: Gladiator on June 27, 2009, 06:54:56 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Joking aside,Czech or Hungarian,they are all beauties as are Poles,Russians and Bulgarians .In fact beauty can be found everywhere so let us just enjoy it in our respective countries!
(Though British girls really do need to lose weight and learn dress sense:D)

 
hey what about these babes Pal?:p :p :p :p :p
Majorettes from Norway

(http://static.timesofmalta.com/media/serve/20090627--090751-loc_27.jpg)

The Norwegian Kolbotn-Garden marching band and majorettes, made up of about 50 girls aged between seven and 18, yesterday marched through Republic Street, Valletta to mark their 50th anniversary.
Title: Re: JOBBIK victory
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 29, 2009, 06:32:54 PM
There is a jockeying for position amongst Groupings in Brussels.
Euro Skeptics are holding talks with Nationalist and Regional Groups.
Eventually we will have another mismatch.

That is the missed opportunity that il-Gahan Malti, always out of step, did not see.
Imperium Europa would not only have gathered these groupings -
but also much larger ones, formerly PEPs and Socialists.

But all is not lost, since the MEP Election will have to be held again, soon.
Held again without those Gang of Four criminals taking part.
This time: We Will Win!

Imperium
0906
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 08, 2009, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
July 08, 2009,  9:30 CET

          news
          Police defend action against weekend demonstrators (http://www.politics.hu/20090708/police-defend-action-against-weekend-demonstrators)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     By             Hungary Around the Clock (http://www.allhungary.hu/hatc/)                            
       
          The action taken by police against demonstrators on Erzs?bet t?r on Saturday were lawful and professional, the National Police said in a statement issued Tuesday.
  The statement said that police did not begin to disperse the banned demonstration until it lost its peaceful nature, adding that they observed the proportionate requirements.
  Teargas was only used to avert attacks on the police by law-breakers, police said.
  In all, 216 people were detained, including chairman G?bor Vona of the far right Jobbik party. Criminal proceedings were launched against four on suspicion of violent behaviour and against 205 others for hooliganism, misdemeanours, resisting police action and violating regulations on identity cards. The detainees were released on Saturday night.
  As of noon Monday five complaints had been filed with the Independent Law Enforcement Complaints Committee, which will begin investigating them in the coming days, said chairman Jen? Kaltenbach.
 
Justice and Law Enforcement Minister Tibor Draskovics said elsewhere that anyone who resists the court ruling outlawing the Magyar G?rda is trying to undermine the foundations of a state governed by the rule of law. Wearing the Magyar G?rda uniform could be a sign of hooliganism or violation of law and police must act in such cases, he said.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI7WwQq9rQU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jobbik.com%2F%3Fp%3D618&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI7WwQq9rQU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jobbik.com%2F%3Fp%3D618&feature=player_embedded)


I could not attend,but an old friend 'Hot Paprika' was there,he said the Police went out of their way to destroy the demo and hit out/sprayed without control or care.
The crowd was forced to concentrate in a vulnerable central square and then attacked from one side,driving them into an ever decreasing area.
Szebb j?v?t (Better times come)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 08, 2009, 02:21:20 PM
Thanks for your support here Sepp,when I am back (from the UK,not prison!) I will activate more articles here.-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Neverwinter on July 12, 2009, 04:17:44 PM
Hail Jobbik!!!
-thumbup--thumbup--thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ogenoct on July 19, 2009, 12:59:37 AM
Fuck Jobbik! HAIL the BNP! It is not like Hungarians are actually White people! The thought itself is preposterous!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on July 19, 2009, 04:02:47 AM
Quote from: ogenoct
Fuck Jobbik! HAIL the BNP! It is not like Hungarians are actually White people! The thought itself is preposterous!
I see that standing up to the Marxist plague equals eternal guilt and "expulsion" from the race.

Are Jews not supposed to demand shalom?
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 28, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
How many 'Hot Paprikas' are there scribbling on politics.hu?Is there one trying to discredit the other?:confused:

Back in action ! But this site is been tracked by our arch-enemies,it would seem! pathetic
Yes we have seen several 'hot paprikas' appear recently,attempting to discredit the real one,however the idiots do not realise that he uses a totally different allias now and is playing them at their own game.:D
that should make them think!!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 28, 2009, 03:24:02 PM
Quote from: Neverwinter
Hail Jobbik!!!
-thumbup--thumbup--thumbup-

Thanks for your support-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 28, 2009, 04:10:40 PM
Quote from: ogenoct
LOL!!! Thanks for the insight, Atilla!

Quit the childish insults please - Mpolo

Arsehole,I notice your 'fuck Jobbik' comment was deleted,We are not 'white'??
LOL and what are you? a rich German kid who lost his roots,resides in socialist paradise Moscow 20 years too late,praises a gay German commie,fantasies about greater Israel and now praises North Korea! LOL one over baked cookie if ever I saw one! :D
Get a life and try to do something original.Do not talk about something you know zilch about.-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ComradeDTAII on July 28, 2009, 06:14:00 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Get a life and try to do something original.
Prepare yourself for the plethora of scat and sex themed poems coming this way.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 31, 2009, 11:09:39 AM
Quote from: ComradeDTAII
Prepare yourself for the plethora of scat and sex themed poems coming this way.

I am down in my bunker waiting the onslaught!-thumbup-
Title: Michael Collins Piper Radio Program
Post by: FREE ZUNDEL NOW on July 31, 2009, 03:03:30 PM
George a Hungarian patriot, is Michael Collins Piper's special guest for the whole hour on July 29th, it's a rather disturbing show, it seems the Zioz are up to their old shenanigans and getting ready to set up shop in Hungary again, even more so than they already have:
 
 
(http://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/Book_Preview_Pages/piper-michael_collins/Dirty_Secrets/DirtySecrets_Art/PiperPortraitp242.jpg)
http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Piper/2009/07/Piper_1_072909_200000.mp3 (http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Piper/2009/07/Piper_1_072909_200000.mp3)


Title: Re: Michael Collins Piper Radio Program
Post by: ricsi on August 02, 2009, 05:43:30 PM
Quote from: FREE ZUNDEL NOW
George a Hungarian patriot, is Michael Collins Piper's special guest for the whole hour on July 29th, it's a rather disturbing show, it seems the Zioz are up to their old shenanigans and getting ready to set up shop in Hungary again, even more so than they already have:
 
 
(http://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/Book_Preview_Pages/piper-michael_collins/Dirty_Secrets/DirtySecrets_Art/PiperPortraitp242.jpg)
http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Piper/2009/07/Piper_1_072909_200000.mp3 (http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Piper/2009/07/Piper_1_072909_200000.mp3)




Thanks for making this available on this forum !-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Neverwinter on December 01, 2009, 04:20:04 AM
Hungarian national dress now illegal

                                                                                                   26/11/2009 20:34:00                                                                                                
                                           Font size:          (http://www.jobbik.com/themes/default/img/font_decrease.gif) (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:tsz%28%27article_body%27,%2712px%27%29)          (http://www.jobbik.com/themes/default/img/font_enlarge.gif) (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:tsz%28%27article_body%27,%2716px%27%29)    
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What's next?                                    
                                                                 
Today national dress effectively became illegal in Hungary. And as yet another liberty was denied of the Hungarian people in their own land, and a further step was made in the deliberate eradication of their heritage, there was nothing. No fanfare, no global outrage, no international media condemnation. Just the sight of an elected representative being marched off by the enforcers of the state.

                                 
In spite of the incredulity he faced from the MSZP and SZDSZ councillors sat around him, and in resolute opposition to the imperious commands issued to him by the Socialist Mayor. Jobbik councillor Zsolt Gyenge, calmly and politely took his appointed seat in the council chamber of Budapest?s VIth District.  

On the day when, by Ministerial decree, the wearing of the uniform of the New Hungarian Guard ? or any clothing resembling it ? became an illegal offence, the democratically elected Jobbik people?s representative heeded Csan?d Szegedi MEP?s recent call, and even though not a Guard member, expressed solidarity with the Guard over the recent state-motivated and press-sanctioned attacks it has been the premeditated victim of.

He wore a New Hungarian Guard waistcoat, over the plain white shirt, black trousers and shoes worn by his Father, and his Father before him; and countless other plain, decent and honest Hungarians since time immemorial.

When asked later to explain why he had taken such a stand, the Jobbik city councillor replied, ?I consider it outrageous that a treasonous government thinks it fit to punish those who wish to see order in this country, who defend the people from gypsy criminality and from flooding, who collect donations for the needy and for our Hungarian siblings beyond our borders.?

Unable to order Mr Gyenge from a council chamber he had just as much right to be in, the VIth District?s Mayor, Istv?n Ver?k hurried from the room in the company of the other MSZP members, gathering in the building?s foyer to conspire as to how to extract their revenge. And following several witnessed, and furtive conversations allegedly even to Draskovics himself, the Mayor secured his objective. With police officers appearing on the site to eject Mr Gyenge from his place of elected work, and to arrest him for his enacted thought crime: in the latest reprehensible blow against the norms of democracy, liberty and freedom of political expression.

It should be remembered that, sadly far from uniquely in terms of metropolitan or national councils, the VIth District of Budapest is infamous for the vast corruption that has taken place within it. With Mayor Ver?k himself being chief amongst several council member currently accused of participating in massive acts of real-estate fraud.

Tonight the incensed citizens of this central Budapest borough, are echoing the feelings of an entire nation, as they ask themselves the question of why, when all this was happening, when the District?s assets were being sold off to personally enrich councillors, when taxes were punitively high to accommodate the bribery and corruption taking place in local government, why no Police were ever seen coming to the council building then! The difference being of course that then they did not feel themselves under threat. This MSZP regime, which has ruled Hungary almost uninterrupted in one form or another since the Winter of 1947, is now beginning to realise it could be facing its final demise.

And surely no-one can deny that this latest manifestation, the incumbent administration since 2002, has represented the zenith of financial political self-enrichment: the deliberate and shameful process by which the nation?s wealth has been transferred into private political hands. And if the capacity of the Hungarian people to resist this process can be eroded by depriving them of their culture, dismantling their heritage, and declaring illegal the symbols of their identity:  all for the better they believe.

How else can the recent and unprecedented assaults against the hard won freedoms of the Hungarian people be explained? What else are these moves intended to crush the Hungarian nationalist movement, and anti-democratically use the authoritarian power of the state to harass the Jobbik party prior to the 2010 elections; but the desperate act of MSZP socialists feeling that their very political survival is threatened?

And as for Viktor Orb?n and Fidesz, how they have changed their tune since the Autumn of 2006. How ever more deathly silent does he and his party become over the escalating catalogue of human and civil rights abuses faced by his countrymen, as they think themselves getting ever closer to possessing the keys of the nation?s coffers: and all the IMF cash that they hope it will contain. Is it any wonder that if our own parliamentary establishment can be so contemptuous of its national traditions, that our neighbours can be openly hostile to it too? Or that, confident in their secured Lisbon swindle, the EU can be so utterly indifferent towards them also?

Once more the European Parliament has seen this week a Jobbik MEP, Zolt?n Balcz?, demanding to know why the EU considers the subject of human rights in Nicaragua fit for discussion, but thinks the blatant and intentional linguo-cultural cleansing meant by the Slovak language law to be little more than, to quote Mr Barroso, ?an internal state matter.? Well at least we know now post-Lisbon what the new EU (possessing as it does the trappings of statehood) thinks subsidiarity means. It means any matter that concerns the deliberate repression and abandonment of the Hungarian people and their heritage.

But we would urge the international readership of Jobbik.com to remain assured, that confident of your support, the Movement for a Better Hungary will never condone or contribute to this abandonment.  Though we would warn you to remain conscious of the threat that you now face, should you wish to dress in national costume when returning to your homeland (about which Jobbik is preparing a communiqu? to the various Embassies in Budapest); we would nevertheless ask you to look confidently towards the future as we do.

Yes you may chose to donate to the party (https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=ibvtsNvVlmT9RNqX6oYHiJ94qvNAOXsJ3JMwhmW0KeztokYKwyoD-gSO3vC&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1ffc45dc241d84e953d0e88f8d71535079b246201019c8adab) as so many others have, you could also decide to lobby your own government to enquire diplomatically of the Hungarian state why it is now beginning to criminalize your own heritage. But most of all, we would ask you to continue to proudly wear the traditional dress of your ethnicity, while remaining assured that though we live in a country where this is now illegal: nothing is going to stop us from doing so either.

Szebb J?v?t!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on March 19, 2010, 06:09:09 PM
I see a couple of Italians have joined the site. Why not open this thread to allow them to communicate in their own language here? After all almost everyone speaks Italian in Malta, and their heritage is equal to our own. Their contributions in their own language would be an asset to VM.
BIENVENUTI ITALIANI.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Administrator on March 23, 2010, 08:54:21 PM
Quote from: cosmicwonderer
I see a couple of Italians have joined the site. Why not open this thread to allow them to communicate in their own language here? After all almost everyone speaks Italian in Malta, and their heritage is equal to our own. Their contributions in their own language would be an asset to VM.
BIENVENUTI ITALIANI.

if they request their own sanctuary, like the hungarians did, then i see no problem with their request, however someone needs to look after it like ricsi looks after this section.

the request has to come from the italians themselves.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on April 12, 2010, 08:19:47 AM
Yesterday Hungarians went to the polling station,Jobbik came from nowhere to be the Third party in Hungary,only just behind the previous ruling Socialists (commies)
Two points to be noted-firstly the new LMP party is an American sponsored replacement for the disgraced Social Democrats (Szdsz) party, led by Jews and given 7% by naive misled voters, second the Socialists managed a 90 minute extension to the polling time thus enabling hesitant voters to be persuaded to vote enabling them to creep into second place,with the new ruling party,Fidesz,consent! Such is 'democracy' these days.
Nonetheless a great day for Jobbik in Hungary--onwards and upwards from here :)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on April 12, 2010, 02:14:40 PM
T?pus a SZ?VEG ?n k?v?ns?g -hoz leford?t itt. Z?D?T ?S TISZTEL -hoz B?LCS EMBEREK -B?L HUNGARY.HAIL ?S TISZTEL -hoz DISSZIDENSEK -B?L GERMANYCONGRATULATIONS : DARABB?RBEN DOLGOZ? -RA EGY NAGY Gy?zelem.
 
(http://terezvarosijobbik.lapunk.hu/tarhely/terezvarosijobbik/kepek/jobbik_nagy_forgo_lassu.gif)
 
T?pus a SZ?VEG ?n k?v?ns?g -hoz leford?t itt. -b?l VAL?S?GOS emberek -b?l M?LTA

( I hope its correct translation)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Gladiator on April 12, 2010, 02:28:14 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8614101.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8614101.stm)
 

Hungary's right-wing opposition claims election win


(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47625000/jpg/_47625123_-1.jpg) Some Hungarians wore traditional uniforms to vote

Hungary's conservative opposition party, Fidesz, has secured a convincing victory in parliamentary elections, ousting the Socialists. Fidesz leader Viktor Orban said Hungarians had voted "to defeat hopelessness".
The far-right Jobbik party, which capitalised on anti-Semitism and anti-Roma sentiment, will enter parliament for the first time.
The final division of seats will only be decided after the second round.
This will be held on 25 April.
Mr Orban, who is set to be the next prime minister, said: "Hungarians voted on Hungary and Hungary's future. Today Hungary's citizens have defeated hopelessness.
"I feel it with all my nerves and know it deep in my heart that I face the biggest task of my life. I will need all the Hungarian people to solve that."
Mr Orban, who was Hungary's prime minister from 1998-2002, promised to cut taxes to stimulate the economy.
The country has been badly hit by the global financial crisis, and has had to be bailed out with 20bn euros (?18bn) from the IMF, the World Bank and the EU.
The Socialist government of Prime Minister Gordon Bajnai imposed a tough austerity programme to reclaim some of the money, but measures like tax rises and salary and pension cuts have made it very unpopular.
'Clear mandate'
Preliminary results indicated that Fidesz had won 206 seats in the 386-member parliament, the Socialists 28, and Jobbik 26.
President Laszlo Solyom said the results had brought a "fundamental shift" in Hungarian politics.
"It is unprecedented... for a winning party to secure such a clear and broad-based mandate that we can see now from the numbers," he told reporters.
Conceding, Socialist party chairwoman Ildiko Lendvai said: "If results do not change materially, then one thing is clear: the Hungarian Socialist party has lost the opportunity to govern.
"But it has not lost, moreover it wants to grasp the opportunity to be the strongest opposition party."
The result was a stunning defeat for the Socialist party, which has governed Hungary for the past eight years, and a remarkable victory for Fidesz, says the BBC's Nick Thorpe in Budapest.
The results were announced by the Central Election Commission after several hours of confusion, during which polling stations were kept open later into the evening to allow those queuing outside them to vote.
The final division of the 386 seats in Parliament will only be decided after the second round of the election in two weeks' time, says our correspondent, but Fidesz looks close to achieving its goal of a two-thirds majority in the new Parliament.
That would allow them to make deep structural reforms, including changes to the constitution, he adds.
Jobbik, known for its anti-Semitic and anti-Roma (Gypsy) rhetoric, has risen from nowhere in the last few years, gaining almost 15% of Hungarian votes in European elections last year.
Turnout was about 64%, slightly lower than the first round of general elections in 2006.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Gladiator on April 13, 2010, 02:49:15 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
sincere congratulations ricsi :) very well done! am so happy for you personally for i know you've worked hard for this and gave a very valid contribution - and to all the hungarians who voted in the Right manner -thumbup-
 
to go forward, turn right. and that's exactly what you people are doing. kudos :)

if the Maltese turn right they will fall into the sea-confused- -confused-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: KAMIKAZE on April 14, 2010, 12:04:35 AM
My most sincere congratulations, ricsi!
 
You made my day!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: marco polo on April 14, 2010, 12:06:40 AM
great news! lets copy it in the uk now!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 28, 2010, 08:52:12 PM
Everybody should take the time to read this-THE most switched on guy on the internet


http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2010/07/maybe-they-are-right-despite-evidence.html
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on October 19, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Thanks for maintaining this thread Sepp.-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on October 19, 2010, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: ricsi
Thanks for maintaining this thread Sepp.-thumbup-

This thread is far from dead...only taking a nap, Jobbik...Don`t worry.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on October 21, 2010, 06:50:09 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Just doing my duty Rich.Gotta keep the candles burning.:)

keep them burning at both ends.        http://kuruc.info/r/26/67452/

I don't know if the link works,sorry,but basically the Jewish press is saying that the toxic 'red mud' spill from the aluminium works near Ajka in Hungary ( 9 dead and hundreds forced to evacuate) is " Gods punishment to the anti-semitic Hungarians who have never truelly appologised for the holocaust"
Such hypocrites making such a statement at a time of national disaster,and then they wonder why EVERYBODY hates them.
Retribution is coming to them in a way they can never imagine,of that we are certain.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on November 03, 2010, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Have you put that up on politics hu Rich?If not,you should do.That'll get the jew ass kissers and guilt complexed non Hungarians going.-thumbup-

Not really spending much time over there,as the jews who monitor my threads will be able to confirm! (Hi kids,we know you are still hanging around).

Here is a last statement from a brave German,which kind of sums up the situation here as well.It is long but well worth a read.

 http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/browse_thread/thread/ec9bbd88f3a3e66a
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on December 04, 2010, 01:07:51 PM
Here is a REAL leak,not a "wikileak". This one exposes Israeli manipulation of US media--Courtesy of RT TV again.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kureFeGmoDI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kureFeGmoDI)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on December 05, 2010, 11:03:55 AM
Quote from: etoile noir
didn't i already post this somewhere here earlier today?  or was that another forum or fb? -confused-

If you did,then my appologies-thumbup-
Still better to be doubled up than never present.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on December 13, 2010, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDiUs_7RRzQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDiUs_7RRzQ)

A Jobbik 2010-es kamp?nyfilmje.


Thanks,but interesting to see 'ratings for this video disabled' and 'comments disabled' by YouTube :mad:
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on December 18, 2010, 12:31:59 PM
http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/12/synagogue-ceiling-darkens-911-skeptics.html (http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/12/synagogue-ceiling-darkens-911-skeptics.html)

Please read my latest! The times are changing.-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Brigantes on December 18, 2010, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: ricsi
http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/12/synagogue-ceiling-darkens-911-skeptics.html (http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/12/synagogue-ceiling-darkens-911-skeptics.html)
 
Please read my latest! The times are changing.-thumbup-

That is a very good link,thanks for that.
 
To be cut n' paste from here to eternity.
 
The world is closing in on the serpent.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 01, 2011, 07:28:48 PM
I have it on authority from a very well placed internal source here that the EU secretly supports this new media law and wanted to try out such a politically sensitive move in a 'small member state' with a 'very solid Government majority' to test the reaction of the populace,a test case for a real EU media control 'law' if you like. Be very wary of Fidesz,products of Soros and gang!.
PS He authorised the transfer of private pension funds into the state to help the budget deficit,yet another trick to be repeated soon through out much of the EU.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Gladiator on January 02, 2011, 08:42:08 PM
Quote from: ricsi
I have it on authority from a very well placed internal source here that the EU secretly supports this new media law and wanted to try out such a politically sensitive move in a 'small member state' with a 'very solid Government majority' to test the reaction of the populace,a test case for a real EU media control 'law' if you like. Be very wary of Fidesz,products of Soros and gang!.
PS He authorised the transfer of private pension funds into the state to help the budget deficit,yet another trick to be repeated soon through out much of the EU.

Everybody knows that Hungary is bankrupt like the rest of the EU and no IMF loan will save it this time around. Happy New Year pal!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 02, 2011, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: Gladiator
Everybody knows that Hungary is bankrupt like the rest of the EU and no IMF loan will save it this time around. Happy New Year pal!

Default is really the only answer for everybody,f..k the bankers:D

Happy new year to you too mate!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 03, 2011, 06:24:26 PM
Maybe a different perspective? Though the writer attacks and denegrades Jobbik,he does make some interesting points re EU

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4625
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 21, 2011, 07:11:25 PM
Hungarys new media control law.

http://www.jobbik.com/jobbik-announcements/3194.html
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on January 21, 2011, 08:42:57 PM
[quote Jobbik]
Europe's Capital of Anti-Semitism
Budapest Experiences A New Wave of Hate
 
 
The disenfranchisement of the 3 million strong indigenous Hungarian minority does not seem to reach the world media. When it is about indigenous Hungarians and when Christian tombs and culture are being attacked, Brussels remains silent.
 
Hungary had a historical opportunity to confront the EU on its double standards regarding these important problems, but the Fidesz government has yet again let the opportunity go to waste because of their own narrow-minded and selfish domestic interests.
 
Csan?d Szegedi
 
Member of the European Parliament (Jobbik)
 
Vice-president of Jobbik, The Movement for a Better Hungary[/quote]
 
http://www.jobbik.com/jobbik-announcements/3194.html (http://www.jobbik.com/jobbik-announcements/3194.html)
 
Great post Jobbik.
GO ON HUNGARY.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 26, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
The new prime minister, Viktor Orban, getting his priorities 'right'-thumbdown-
Orb?n says government committed to Jewish community's rights

                                                                                                             By            Hungary Around the Clock (http://www.allhungary.hu/hatc/)                            
                  The Hungarian government is committed to ensuring that the rights of Jews are respected unconditionally, Prime Minister Viktor Orb?n told Moshe Kantor, president of the European Jewish Congress, in Brussels on Tuesday.
  Kantor, along with other Jewish leaders, including Mazsihisz president P?ter Feldm?jer and executive director Guszt?v Zoltai, met Orb?n in his capacity as leader of EU presidency holder Hungary.
The Jewish leaders observed that both traditional anti-Semitism and anti-Israeli views grew last year, as a result of the economic crisis. The two sides agreed that it is also the task of European politics to stop this trend.
  Orb?n said the political atmosphere and the general mood surrounding Jews has improved.
  Kantor noted the rise of Jobbik as an alarming phenomenon. Feldm?jer quoted Orb?n as saying that a strong centrist force can hold back extremism, and that a weakening of the centre favours Jobbik.
  The situation in Hungary is not worse than in Great Britain, Germany or France as regards the number of anti-Semitic statements, Kantor said.
  Orb?n flew to Brussels Tuesday morning after completing talks in Cairo with political and religious leaders.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 26, 2011, 05:22:56 PM
http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/eastern_europe/48592

Prime minister Orb?n Viktor shows his real loyalties!!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 31, 2011, 12:32:23 PM
Hungary ranks 150 in this table with a (minus)-8392 million US Dollar current account deficit.:eek:





http://beforeitsnews.com/story/385/572/The_coming_US_Depression_has_an_added_dimension:_...a_huge_underclass_of_very_desperate_people_with_their_minds_chemically_blown_beyond_anybodys_comprehension_which_may_fuel_unprecedented_unrest._by_Tom_Dennen.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/385/572/The_coming_US_Depression_has_an_added_dimension:_...a_huge_underclass_of_very_desperate_people_with_their_minds_chemically_blown_beyond_anybodys_comprehension_which_may_fuel_unprecedented_unrest._by_Tom_Dennen.html)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 01, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2011/02/demonstration-against-gypsy-crime-on.html (http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2011/02/demonstration-against-gypsy-crime-on.html)

Gypsy crime demonstration--soon to be forbidden in Hungary!

And ignorant people like Norman call us all 'Gypsies'-that is why he will go nowhere-lots of mighty words but lack of reality.

SZEBB J?V?T
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on February 01, 2011, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: ricsi
http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2011/02/demonstration-against-gypsy-crime-on.html (http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2011/02/demonstration-against-gypsy-crime-on.html)
 
Gypsy crime demonstration--soon to be forbidden in Hungary!
 
And ignorant people like Norman call us all 'Gypsies'-that is why he will go nowhere-lots of mighty words but lack of reality.
 
SZEBB J?V?T

What does Norman have to do with gypsies? How come you label him as ignorant? ( Not that he cares much about your constant jibes, anyway.)
Give up ricsi...Lowell is our HERO. He will always be regarded as one, and nobody will succeed in belittling him in our eyes.
Norman will go nowhere?...Time will tell.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 01, 2011, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: cosmicwonderer
What does Norman have to do with gypsies? How come you label him as ignorant? ( Not that he cares much about your constant jibes, anyway.)
Give up ricsi...Lowell is our HERO. He will always be regarded as one, and nobody will succeed in belittling him in our eyes.
Norman will go nowhere?...Time will tell.

My dear friend-yes I really do consider you a friend! Your hero Norman attacked me when I agreed with Sepp ,calling us 'Hungarian gypsies' and saying are all you 'Hungarian gypsies the same?' .
Such ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE is why he achieves NOTHING in Malta or the EU whilst we have 4 EU MPs and 47 MPs here and 17% of the vote in a very biased election-How many percent has he achieved?? I know you keep saying he 'is all you have got',but in that case you have got NOTHING ,no fancy words,bold black type font,or a few books mean anything to the majority in Malta.
Like Sepp said-its all about selling yourself to the public if you want to influence and change the situation.
Gutless Norman never replied when I took up his criticism-too high and mighty? Why?? I can talk any time of the day to Vona G?bor,Jobbik leader with a real success story behind him,but not Norman??
Those who live in fantasy will disappear in fantasy land.I am only interested in REALITY.

http://zippittydodah.blogspot.com/2011/01/talking-new-world-new-age-system-blues.html

This little guy with no political connection speaks 10000 times more sense than 'exterminate and starve them' Norman.

Sorry to piss you off but he really is wasting your time-you said ' he is all we have got!' Wrong YOU and Sepp and EN etc... also exist,not just Norman-to put all your cards on one person is a the biggest risk-what if he gets hit by a bus tomorrow? You all go home and accept defeat without a leader? (No ill feelings to Norman of course),back to the meaningless existence?
leaderless,rudderless? YOU and all like minded are the real leaders of change!-thumbup- You have the power:D You do not need a leader,open up and see the changes on a spiritual world level. (You understand me totally,so make the connection,break away from this 'all we have' mentallity)

God bless you always.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: JiB on February 08, 2011, 10:03:10 AM
For the interest of Hungarian speakers here are the recently uploaded Hungarian pages of Europ?ische Aktion.

http://www.europaeische-aktion.org/index_hu.html (http://www.europaeische-aktion.org/index_hu.html)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 08, 2011, 07:09:54 PM
Sepp-A heart breaking story,but just a few points of clarification. Swabian Germans were forced to fight by the occupying German authorities,they occupied Hungary in March 1944 so the puppet regime had no say in such matters. Also many German soldiers were not released from Soviet captivity until 1954-55,not 1949 as stated.Indeed I have photo's of ordinary Hungarian soldiers coming home finally after 1949.
Tiszal?k also contained Hungarian captives who had fought for Szal?si's arrow cross (the Hungarian extreme nationalist forces.)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 09, 2011, 10:20:07 AM
ps.Do you dig my new avatar Rich?Do you recognise it?

Sepp-its a synagogue,to be honest they all look the same to me so I try to look the other way when I walk past one:D-rolleyes-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: JiB on February 09, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
Quote from: Sepp44
Yeah I know ,but do you recognise where it is ? Nagy Utca :D:D
When I first saw that piccy and the description under your name I though to myself, caution John he might be a Chosenite. Gott sei Dank ! (dass es nicht so ist). ;)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 09, 2011, 12:03:00 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Yeah I know ,but do you recognise where it is ? Nagy Utca :D:D

Go on Kosher boy,enlighten me:) Nagy utca where???
Its not P?cs,Szeksz?rd,maybe Baja?
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 09, 2011, 12:04:28 PM
Quote from: JiB
When I first saw that piccy and the description under your name I though to myself, caution John he might be a Chosenite. Gott sei Dank ! (dass es nicht so ist). ;)

You do NEED to be cautious with Sepp-but not because he is a chosenite:D
Watch out for Fridays is all I will say:)

Das ist so,Sepp??
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on February 09, 2011, 12:07:08 PM
Quote from: ricsi
You do NEED to be cautious with Sepp-but not because he is a chosenite:D
Watch out for Fridays is all I will say:)
 
Das ist so,Sepp??

I can confirm that. Friday night is when the BIG GOB is at war with the universe.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 12, 2011, 06:50:05 PM
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: JiB on February 12, 2011, 07:10:25 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
How does my new one grab you John?

Much better Sepp, though I can't quite make it out what uniform it is. Anyway it looks like it was made a few years ago. -thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 14, 2011, 11:25:36 AM
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/25709/christian-news-agency-ordered-to-register-with-hungary-media-authority

Here comes the crack down !
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: adspi on February 17, 2011, 09:59:09 AM
What do gays think they'd achieve by organising a gay pride march?

I have nothing against gays of course and moreover think they should be free to live their life the way they want to. Nevertheless they should be wise enough to understand that this same freedom does not constitute a right to parade perversions in public.

If marriage laws and their prohibitions is what fuels their anger but at the same time they're free to date anyone they like, why then are they insisting on their right to marriage? A cohabitation law should give them almost par rights as married couples. But they are not happy with that. They want to inculcate into our brains the illusion that a same sex couple is a normal couple indeed. Science tells us this could never hold water!

Now that gays have been holding gay pride marches for years, I wonder what would happen if us Caucasians hold White pride marches. Not that it is a sane idea but if a minority can be proud, why couldn't us as a race, likewise share the same feeling? Why would we be dubbed racists, nazis, fascists and what not by the media.  

The media is constantly attacking our way of living and promoting minority beliefs. The aim is not to turn our society any healthier but to weaken it. Those of you who understand who controls the media should be wise enough to anticipate their moves.

Anyway, I for one, do not blame the Hungarian government for halting this march. There are other ways one could protest.

Hungary is also blamed for the media laws. According to the EU, freedom of speech is under threat there.
In a few years time Malta will be hosting the EU presidency. Let's see what the EU would state about our country, its media laws and freedom of speech!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on February 17, 2011, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: adspi
What do gays think they'd achieve by organising a gay pride march?
 
I have nothing against gays of course and moreover think they should be free to live their life the way they want to. Nevertheless they should be wise enough to understand that this same freedom does not constitute a right to parade perversions in public.
 
If marriage laws and their prohibitions is what fuels their anger but at the same time they're free to date anyone they like, why then are they insisting on their right to marriage? A cohabitation law should give them almost par rights as married couples. But they are not happy with that. They want to inculcate into our brains the illusion that a same sex couple is a normal couple indeed. Science tells us this could never hold water!
 
Now that gays have been holding gay pride marches for years, I wonder what would happen if us Caucasians hold White pride marches. Not that it is a sane idea but if a minority can be proud, why couldn't us as a race, likewise share the same feeling? Why would we be dubbed racists, nazis, fascists and what not by the media.
 
The media is constantly attacking our way of living and promoting minority beliefs. The aim is not to turn our society any healthier but to weaken it. Those of you who understand who controls the media should be wise enough to anticipate their moves.
 
Anyway, I for one, do not blame the Hungarian government for halting this march. There are other ways one could protest.
 
Hungary is also blamed for the media laws. According to the EU freedom of speech is under threat there.
In a few years time Malta will be hosting the EU presidency. Let's see what the EU would state about our country, its media laws and freedom of speech!

Hey let`s go one step further and allow parades for pedophiles, necrophiles and cannibals, too. Why not? Everyone has human rights these days
 
 
 
 
(http://thomlynchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/gay_flag-572x316.jpg)      (http://www.john-hodge.com/images/poster_pedo.jpg)
 
 
 
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000195585/polls_SPN_Necrophilia_1749_945637_answer_3_xlarge.jpeg) (http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/sodahead-slideshow-whats-the-greatest-flag-in-the-world/blog-349871/)(http://www.afreeman.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/cannibal666.jpg)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 17, 2011, 07:23:10 PM


Gays do not belong here!
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 17, 2011, 07:25:10 PM
Why we fought!

Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 19, 2011, 06:53:11 PM
Everytime Hungarians hear this last free broadcast they cry because no bastard helped against the jew communist regime. 1956

Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 19, 2011, 07:03:48 PM
More to make you think

Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Gladiator on February 19, 2011, 09:49:35 PM
Quote from: ricsi
More to make you think
 

Mr. Soros did hear their cries for the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 23, 2011, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
Actually Rich,it's not far from where I usually stay.

The Cemetary of course:D
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 24, 2011, 09:08:23 PM




'Gypsies' having a revolution
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on March 14, 2011, 12:54:43 PM
European Parliament resolution on Hungarian media law pointless, Maltese MEP says

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                  A resolution on the Hungarian media law (http://www.politics.hu/20110310/ep-approves-resolution-criticizing-hungarys-media-law) adopted by the liberal, socialist, green and communist groups of the European Parliament is pointless and only serves political purposes, MEP Simon Busuttil, EPP Group Coordinator in the Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs (LIBE) Committee of the EP said on the group's website.
  "The document ignores the fact that the Hungarian government has acted in line with the European Commission's proposals and that the Hungarian media law is fully in line with all EU laws, including the Charter of Fundamental Rights", Busuttil said.
  Additionally, Commissioner for Digital Agenda Neelie Kroes has confirmed that the amended legislation is in line with European laws, including the Charter of Fundamental Rights, he added.
  The resolution condemning the Hungarian media law adopted on Thursday by the left-wing groups is "unfounded, unreasonable and is intended only to score political points," Busuttil said.
  He said voting for an "unreasonable, unrealistic and pointless Resolution" constituted irresponsible behaviour which ruins not only the judgement of the EP's work but also trust in the European Institutions.
  The European Parliament on Thursday approved a resolution that raises objections to Hungary's media law. Earlier this week the Hungarian parliament passed amendments to the media laws in line with an agreement with the European Commission. European Commissioner for Digital Agenda Neelie Kroes welcomed the move.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on March 14, 2011, 01:56:51 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
i don't quite understand -confused-

why is simon busuttil objecting?  and to what exactly?

We have a new media law in Hungary,to control TV content and stop newspaper domination by political parties/groups,however many see it as a new form of censorship leading ultimately to internet control (all news portals will have to register with central gov.this year) and the Chairman of the commitee was appointed by the new Government to hold the position for 9 years!
An interesting article in English regarding this situation-
Jobbik: Europe reverberates the media law instead of the Hungarian people's problems

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                                                  There has been no real freedom of press in Hungary since 1990, not to mention during the communist era before that. What most of the international press mean by press freedom, however, is just a monopolist position of the extreme left, neoliberal media. It seems that all the condemnation and panic about the new Hungarian media law is actually about the fact that neo-liberals do not tolerate any real or presumed obstacles to their limitless media power.
                         (http://www.jobbik.com/files.php?file=banners/orb406_590579982.jpg)In one way, it would be a welcomed measure by the Fidesz-government with its two-thirds parliamentary majority to somehow regulate the overwhelming weight of extreme left, former communist and now liberal 'journalists' and press but this is quite an unlikely scenario. Instead, Fidesz are doing exactly the same what they meant to regulate and fight against: invading the media, public televisions and radios with their own executives, building the orange Fidesz empire.

However, I consider a more severe problem in that Vikor Orb?n and his Fidesz party are abusing the Hungarian voters' will. They were voted in and given license by the electorate to urgently deal with the Hungarian nation's crucial problems, such as the national debt, the economy and many important problems in the aftermath of 8 years of Socialist-liberal destruction. Instead, again, Fidesz is building its one-party national media.

When Hungary took over the rotating presidency of the EU on 1 January 2011, there should have been other questions on the agenda. The world press should echo and condemn the Benes decrees, the anti-Hungarian Slovak language law or the ethnic cleansing of Hungarians in Transylvania carried out by all-time Romanian governments. Viktor Orb?n and J?nos Martonyi seem to let great opportunities slip away with the mistimed media law. Thus the international press covers the media-law to such a great extent, whilst autonomy and self-government of Transylvanian Hungarians (currently under Romanian rule) or that of the D?lvid?k (an ancient Hungarian territory currently under Serbia) remains unmentioned.
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Nevertheless we must point out and ask the 'frightened' and 'terrified' western media and the European Union: why were they silent during the rubber bullet fusillade ordered by the Socialist government in 2006? Why did they keep quiet regarding the brutal ferocities and the torture of peaceful, commemorating people on 23 October 2006? Police forces and masked security thugs blinded and semi-blinded 14 people and wounded hundreds in the flow of the 2006 carnage.

Or on Slovakia: where is the world media and the EU when one of its member states has been trying to ban official and in fact everyday use of Hungarian language for its 600,000 strong Hungarian minority? Or in Transylvania, where Hungarian tombs and cemeteries have been and are being systematically destroyed before the eyes of accomplice Romanian authorities? Was there ever such a concerted media campaign against the misuse of power by the Slovak and Romanian authorities in the western press or was there any official condemnation issued by Brussels?

(http://www.jobbik.com/files.php?file=uploads/2009/05/hungariansincentraleurope-300x207.jpg)The disenfranchisement of the 3 million strong indigenous Hungarian minority does not seem to reach the world media. When it is about indigenous Hungarians and when Christian tombs and culture are being attacked, Brussels remains silent.

Hungary had a historical opportunity to confront the EU on its double standards regarding these important problems, but the Fidesz government has yet again let the opportunity go to waste because of their own narrow-minded and selfish domestic interests.

Csan?d Szegedi

Member of the European Parliament (Jobbik)

Vice-president of Jobbik, The Movement for a Better Hungary
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on March 14, 2011, 02:01:04 PM
Here is the Jewish view!                                        



Hungarian PM: new media law meant to combat anti-Semitism and racism from extreme-right            

                                               
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From L to R: Peter Feldmajer, president of the Federation of Hungarian Jewish communities, Moshe Kantor, president of the European Jewish Congress, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and Richard Prasquier, president of CRIF, the umbrella representative group of French Jewish organizations.
                                                     
                                             
                         
                                             
                                                                                               


                                                                                                                                                               











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 [FONT="]Orban met Tuesday in Brussels a delegation from the European Jewish Congress (EJC) led by its president Moshe Kantor. They discussed various issues of importance for the Jews in Europe. Peter Feldmajer, president of the Federation of Hungarian Jewish communities was also present at the meeting.[/FONT]
   
 [FONT="]Kantor expressed concern about  the growing influence of the extreme-right in parts of Europe. He said that "e[/FONT][FONT="]xtremist forces" are once again emerging from Europe and stressed the need for added vigilance. [/FONT]
 
 [FONT="]He singled out the Hungarian extreme-right party Jobbik, which he said "behaves like a Nazi party" and is too much tolerated by the government.[/FONT]
 
 [FONT="]"Parties like Jobbik stand in direct opposition to the values of the European Union that Hungary now presides over. The EU presidency could be utilized as a great opportunity for Hungary to lead the way against all manifestations of extremism and hatred," Kantor said. [/FONT]
 
 [FONT="]"[/FONT][FONT="]This message of tolerance for the far-right expresses a deep intolerance for the Jewish community and other minorities," the EJC president said,calling for a "zero tolerance" in Europe on the the question of racism and anti-Semitism.[/FONT]
                                                                 
According to Hungarian press agency MTI, Prime Minister Viktor Orban said the political atmosphere and the general mood surrounding Jews has improved in the country. He was quoted as saying that a strong centrist force can hold back extremism, and that a weakening of the centre favours the extreme-right Jobbik party.
 
 [FONT="]Orban said that on the contrary, the new legislation was introduced to fight the extreme-right phenomenon in the country.[/FONT]
 
  [FONT="]Kantor told Orban about what he called "a dramatic escalation in anti-Semitism in Europe." "For the first time since the Holocaust, Jews in Europe are feeling unsafe and in certain communities such as Malmo, Sweden, are leaving en masse," Kantor added.[/FONT]
 
 [FONT="]They also [/FONT][FONT="]discussed the "new form of anti-Semitism" with attacks against Israel as the nation state of the Jewish People, as akin to the classical older anti-Semitism.[/FONT]
 
 [FONT="]"The Jewish right to self-determination should be unquestioned and unflinchingly supported, especially in Europe. Those who question its legitimacy and call for a campaign of boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel should be seen by the European Union as unacceptable," Kantor said. [/FONT]
 
 [FONT="]"Any call from an official body or organization for a boycott against Israel should be outlawed. Anything less is immoral and illegitimate," he added, praising France as a "model" for a pan-European legislation against the boycott of a democratic country.[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT="]Orban expressed his opposition to the campaign assaulting Israel?s legitimacy.[/FONT]
 
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on March 20, 2011, 04:11:52 PM
Mar   19   12:08  

  Jewish group disturbed by results of survey on anti-Semitic attitudes in Europe (http://www.ejpress.org/article/49705)

                Tags: When asked to respond to the statement that "Israel is conducting a war of extermination against the Palestinians," 63% of the studys participants in Poland agreed with the statement, while in Germany 47.7 percent expressed agreement.
 The researchers also asked respondents whether they agreed with the statement "Jews try to take advantage of having been victims during the Nazi era." 72.2% of Polls, 49.8% of Germans and 68.1% of Hungarians replied in the affirmative.
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on March 21, 2011, 08:27:11 PM
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on March 21, 2011, 10:18:19 PM
Nice photo ricsi
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on April 16, 2011, 07:33:14 PM
Hungary also has its Catholic church scandals (sorry Sepp but it must be told!).
Hungary's Very Dirty (And Very Hungarian) Dirty Priest Scandal

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  In February, Julius Janus, a Polish clergyman who had been the longtime Papal nuncio in Hungary, was abruptly transferred out of the country. At the time, the reasons for his leaving were unclear. But according to Index.hu (http://index.hu/belfold/2011/03/25/elszabotalta_a_szexvadak_vizsgalatat_a_nuncius/) and other sources, the sudden exit of the Vatican's top representative was related to allegations that he had assisted in the cover-up of homosexual indiscretions involving top Hungarian clerics, and that proof of his malfeasance could be found in confidential letters dispatched under his signature.
  While lurid in its own right, Janus's departure - apparently a "transfer" to the Balkans - is only the latest in a series of bombshells to hit Hungary's Catholic Church, some involving not crimes of lust but that most Hungarian of deadly sins, financial fraud.
   
(http://www.pestiside.hu/entry_images/priest-scandal-side.jpg) Accused and accuser: Former P?cs Bishop Mayer and priest Wolf (top), former Papal nuncio Janus (with accordion) and crusading editor Wildmann (below right), whose publication shed light on the dark doings in the P?cs diocese.

  At the center of the charges is the former Bishop of P?cs, Mih?ly Mayer, whose resignation - which may have been forced - was accepted by Pope Benedict XVI earlier this year. Appointed to his position in the dramatic year of 1989 - on the Friday before the Thursday on which the Berlin Wall fell - Mayer was an outspoken conservative on doctrinal issues, particularly on the importance of clerical celibacy, and during his tenure he frequently weighed in publicly on issues of culture, morality, and history. From early on he was also a powerful advocate for the restitution of church property that had been seized by the communists, which in P?cs was quite considerable.
 
Mayer's downfall began as a decidedly dull dispute over the financing of a local Catholic elementary school, which had simmered for years in the pages of a left-leaning ecumenically-oriented religious journal, Egyh?zf?rum (http://"http://www.egyhazforum.hu/) ("Church Forum"). At the time, the journal's editor, J?nos Wildmann, privately sought to warn church leaders that the P?cs diocese was a "time bomb." Wildmann's advice went unheeded. But it was proven painfully accurate when the Baranya County Prosecutor's Office announced last October an investigation into a close confidant of Bishop Mayer, diocese financial director - and, as it apparently turned out, pederasty enthusiast - Father Gyula Wolf. The investigation of the diocese appears to have been prompted by a 65-page document submitted to the prosecutor allegedly pointing to over 40 different crimes, including embezzlement, document forgery, and - this being Hungary - VAT fraud.
  Most of the charges revolve around alleged financial irregularities involving a company called F?ny Kft. ("Light Ltd."), the diocese's service administration firm, which was managed by Father Wolf and owned by the Bishop's private foundation, Gaudium Nostrum (literally: "our gaiety.") On top of this, there were also allegations involving the more traditional forms of "white collar" church crime, including sexual abuse of minors.
 
Hungary's post-Communist educational system provides for state funding of parochial schools via the dioceses, which receive subsidies from the government and then they transfer them to individual schools under their supervision. In 2006, the headmaster of P?cs' Szent M?r elementary school publicly conceded that the reason the school could not pay its teachers and its heating bill promptly was because the P?cs diocese had been routinely transferring the school's allotted state funds six or more months late. When the headmaster was removed from her position by the diocese - which accused her of fiscal incompetence - she and the school's parents argued their case in the pages of Egyh?zf?rum. Three later independent audits of Szent M?r's accounting ultimately vindicated the headmaster's claims. The withholding of state funds and embezzlement of approximately $500,000 would be one of two charges against the diocese made public in November.
 
This case was followed by an additional charge involving a Catholic school in Paks. According to Index (http://index.hu/belfold/2010/11/24/pedofilugyekben_frissitik_a_puspok_emlekezetet/), Mayer had persuaded the school management to sign over their building to F?ny Ltd. in exchange for the construction of a new gymnasium. Although the ownership of the school - worth Ft 500 million - was transferred to the company, as of now, the promised athletic facility has not been built.
  Further allegations involve the disposal of real estate which residents of diocese-operated retirement homes were said to have turned over to F?ny Ltd. - and which were subsequently sold at below market rates to Wolf's circle of friends. A circle of friends that, by the way, our own sources in P?cs say largely consists of Wolf's "boyfriends."
 
Although the allegations of financial misconduct have dominated much of the local coverage of the Mayer/Wolf scandal, Egyh?zf?rum has continued to push hard on the charges of sexual abuse. In particular, its articles claim that Bishop Mayer had rebuffed "in a strange manner" the entreaties of well-intentioned parents concerned about an unnamed priest who taught religious education classes.
 
Those issues, however, came to widespread attention last month, when the police announced they had seized the computer of the parish priest of B?ly (http://index.hu/bulvar/2011/02/03/szexkepekkel_bukott_le_a_bolyi_plebanos/), a small town within the P?cs diocese, and discovered a large cache of child pornography on it. The investigation had been requested by international anti-crime agency Interpol on the basis of German police monitoring.
 
Szombathely bishop Andr?s Veres has been appointed to lead the P?cs diocese until a permanent replacement for Mayer is selected. Wildmann believes that criminal charges against Mayer are unlikely, given that he holds a knighthood in the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem, which grants him diplomatic immunity in Hungary. Then again, he may not need the immunity, since, when has any bishop or similarly senior Church official been prosecuted for these kind of crimes? And, anyway, this is Hungary.
 
Editor's Note: The above article was written by Budapest-based scholar Jeffrey Taylor, based on both his original reporting and other media sources. Related articles from the Pestiside archives can be found here (http://www.pestiside.hu/20091027/outrage-as-countryside-priest-refuses-to-pay-for-gay-sex/) (2009), here (http://www.pestiside.hu/20070329/hungarian-priest-implicates-dead-pope-in-sex-scandal/) (2007), here (http://www.pestiside.hu/20060213/cardinal-was-wellmeaning-commie-spy/) (2006) and here (http://www.pestiside.hu/20040902/bless-us-father-for-you-have-sinned/) (2004).
 
                     April 06, 2011
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on April 16, 2011, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
paedophilia is not limited to nationality, nor to religion or social class.  it is a malaise that can afflict anyone, irrespective of colour, creed, social standing, etc.

trying to generalise across a belief, a race or any other section of people based on this, is ignorance at best.

however since you mentioned Sepp, I don't think that in the other thread he was referring to paedophila and the RC church per se, i think he was making reference to the RC faith, and the pope, in general.
(am just trying to be fair -unsure-)

Totally agree,I never inferred it is only one creed or religion,but it is becomming evident that the MAIN church in Christian Europe really needs to get its house in order and stop lying,cheating and covering up. How can we condone other faiths when our own is in such dire straits.
PS I am a little sad you used the phrase 'ignorance at best':( but I will take it as a minor slap on the cheek;)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on April 20, 2011, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
Budapest: 'German interference in Hungarian domestic affairs unacceptable'

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                     EUOBSERVER (http://euobserver.com/9/32219) / BRUSSELS - The Hungarian foreign  ministry has denounced Germany's criticism of its new constitution as an  "unacceptable" interference in domestic affairs and warned Berlin to  steer away from such "shocking" statements in the future.
  "The comments made by minister of state Hoyer basically evaluated  Hungarian domestic political processes," Zsolt Nemeth, the German  minister's counterpart said on Thursday.
                                              (http://euobserver.com/onm/media/file3/z1CBA2.png)                 Budapest: Hungary has told Germany to refrain from commenting on domestic affairs (Photo: EUobserver.com)
             

"The statement is incomprehensible and unacceptable," he continued.  On Tuesday, Hoyer said that the new conservative constitution passed  by the Hungarian parliament the day before and a controversial media law  approved earlier in the year were "hardly compatible" with European  Union values.
  "We are observing the developments in Hungary with great attention and some worry," he had said.
  The Hungarian foreign ministry said in an email message that it was  "shocked" by the German minister's statement and complained that Hoyer  had received "detailed information on the constitutional process several  times."
  "The new constitution does not restrict the rights of minorities or  the rule of law, and strengthens the common European values instead of  harming them," the ministry missive continued.
  The ministry also derided as "particularly unacceptable" references  by Germany to its Media Act, saying that it had been amended following  complaints by the European Commission. In conceding to Brussels'  concerns, Hungary "thereby demonstrated a commitment to common European  values."
  The Hungarian minister also told Germany not to criticise his country in public again.
  Nemeth added that he hoped that as a result of "the intensity and  friendly nature of the Hungarian-German diplomatic relations," in the  future, "concerns would be dispelled in the course of bilateral  relations instead of statements."


For your info only Jobbik voted NO against the new constitution for it leaves too many questions unanswered,was not subject to a referendum and was pushed through by a power crazed 'half right' government. The Socialists and the 'Green' (new reds) LMP both agreed to abstain-thus shirking all reponsibilty.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 05, 2011, 03:36:34 PM
From a previous thread EN wrote what can also be said to be an accurate summary of the problem here in Hungary with the Gypsy minority,perfect EN,thanks.:)

'this is where socialism went so awry. as a concept it could work, however the "cradle to the grave" mentality is now so horribly ingrained in the general populace, that socialism has brought us to a state where it's easier to stay home and watch TV and wait for a handout, a free council house and social assistance for your many illegitimate children, than it is to go out and work, pay taxes and educate your children'

'...the only reason i always went out to work, educated my child with no state help whatsoever and pay my taxes is because a) i'm qualified, and b) i'm not a leech and never would want to be. my pride and dignity far outweigh the "benefits" of sitting at home waiting for the state to subsidise some miserable empty existence.'
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 08, 2011, 07:24:35 PM
Nobody wants to protect the honest,law abiding citizens,more 'frankfurt school' brain washed do-gooders dictating without knowing the real situation.-rolleyes-Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (http://www.osce.org/)

         
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  The comment comes following a series of anti-Roma incidents in Hungary, culminating in a violent clash involving paramilitary vigilante groups in the village of Gy?ngy?spata last week, and several marches in the Czech Republic, organized by extremist groups, inciting hatred against Roma.
  ?The violence and discrimination Roma and Sinti continue to face in many European states is unacceptable,? Lenar?i? said. ?The recent events are a reminder of the intolerable hostility Roma still face in many countries in Europe.?
  He acknowledged the steps undertaken by a number of governments in improving the situation of Roma and Sinti, and welcomed the adoption earlier this week of amendments to the Hungarian penal code making it easier to protect minority communities from intimidation and harassment by paramilitary groups. He added that more must be done to fulfill the commitments states have made within the OSCE and in other international frameworks to address the persistent problems Roma minorities face and to protect them from violence.
  ?The authorities have a duty to vigorously investigate hate-motivated incidents and political leaders have the responsibility to unequivocally and publicly condemn all such incidents,? said Lenar?i?.
 
 
 
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on May 09, 2011, 08:59:35 AM
Hungarian online channel marks Hitler birthday
NSNS & Sources
 
A Hungarian online news channel backed by the populist Jobbik party
aired a segment on Hitler on April 20, the 122nd anniversary of his birth,
the French news agency AFP reported. The 30-second piece praised Hitler
for his ?economic and moral contribution? to Germany. The pro-Hitler piece
aired on online Channel N1 and praised the German Leader, who ?rapidly
re-launched the destroyed, impoverished Germany,? and blasted the
?political witch-hunt of the victorious powers,? notably ?the Anglo-Saxon
and Bolshevik allies,? for attacking his legacy. N1?s launch in December
was announced by Jobbik leader Gabor Vona, whose party entered
parliament last year with 12 percent of the votes. The station?s mission
is to present news that is ?not available or shown only in a distorted way
in the mainstream media,? according to the AFP report.
 
 
97-year-old Hungarian on trial for alleged war crimes
Al-Jazeera
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2011/05/20115513177785608.html (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2011/05/20115513177785608.html)
A 97-year old Hungarian man has proclaimed his innocence at a war
crimes trial in Budapest for the World War II killings of civilians in then-
Yugoslavia, dismissing the charges as lies and the proceedings as a circus.
"I am innocent," the frail Sandor Kepiro told the court where he is facing
a possible life sentence for the murder of 36 people during raids by
Hungarian forces on the Serbian town of Novi Sad in January 1942. More
than 1,200 Jews and Serbs perished in the [alleged] massacres. ... "The
charges are lies, all lies," Kepiro had told reporters earlier. "I knew nothing
of any massacres." ... "This is the first trial of a Hungarian war criminal
and since Hungary has collaborated with Nazi Germany, it's very important
it takes place," Efraim Zuroff [of the Simon Wiesenthal Center] told reporters.
"There can be no clemency, no sympathy ... (etc.),? he said.
 
 
The whole world is slowly opening its eyes to this pestilence.
This satanic expression of prime evil on earth.
This malevolent race that has torn the planet asunder.
 
Imperium
1105
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on May 09, 2011, 11:46:46 AM
Quote from: IMPERIUM
The whole world is slowly opening its eyes to this pestilence.
This satanic expression of prime evil on earth.
This malevolent race that has torn the planet asunder.
 
Imperium
1105

"With the accident the possibility for further research was likely to end. Sometimes he would refer to "this World-wide Conspiracy surpassing even Judaism," within which the Jew is only another element, even though important. And he returned to his "traditionalist" concept of the eras of Hinduism and the inevitable fatal road towards the nadir of the Kali Yuga. Accordingly subversion would be directed from outside this world by a Prince of Darkness. The idea, by its fatallsm, would become something like a "spiritual Spenglerianism."

Serrano in his book:
AH The Ultimate Avatar
Recounting his conversation with Julius Evola in his palace at Via Vittoria Emmanuele, Rome.

And Claudio Mutti, in his Introduction to The Protocols of The Elders of Zion:

"Judaism is neither a nation nor a race. It is a spiritual tendency, a psychic constitution, that represents for each man a possibility which historical Judaism has carried to its most grandiose realization." Weininger would thus come to consider Judaism as a sort of Platonic Idea that, as such, has preceded the historic mission of the Jewish people."

Imperium
1105
 
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on May 09, 2011, 01:46:03 PM
The above is one of your best posts EVER, IMPERIUM. A true measure of the wisdom that you are endowed with.
I?m just waiting for objections to my comment...Any minute now.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 09, 2011, 02:02:21 PM
Quote from: IMPERIUM
Hungarian online channel marks Hitler birthday
NSNS & Sources
 
A Hungarian online news channel backed by the populist Jobbik party
aired a segment on Hitler on April 20, the 122nd anniversary of his birth,
the French news agency AFP reported. The 30-second piece praised Hitler
for his ?economic and moral contribution? to Germany. The pro-Hitler piece
aired on online Channel N1 and praised the German Leader, who ?rapidly
re-launched the destroyed, impoverished Germany,? and blasted the
?political witch-hunt of the victorious powers,? notably ?the Anglo-Saxon
and Bolshevik allies,? for attacking his legacy. N1?s launch in December
was announced by Jobbik leader Gabor Vona, whose party entered
parliament last year with 12 percent of the votes. The station?s mission
is to present news that is ?not available or shown only in a distorted way
in the mainstream media,? according to the AFP report.
 
 
97-year-old Hungarian on trial for alleged war crimes
Al-Jazeera
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2011/05/20115513177785608.html (http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2011/05/20115513177785608.html)
A 97-year old Hungarian man has proclaimed his innocence at a war
crimes trial in Budapest for the World War II killings of civilians in then-
Yugoslavia, dismissing the charges as lies and the proceedings as a circus.
"I am innocent," the frail Sandor Kepiro told the court where he is facing
a possible life sentence for the murder of 36 people during raids by
Hungarian forces on the Serbian town of Novi Sad in January 1942. More
than 1,200 Jews and Serbs perished in the [alleged] massacres. ... "The
charges are lies, all lies," Kepiro had told reporters earlier. "I knew nothing
of any massacres." ... "This is the first trial of a Hungarian war criminal
and since Hungary has collaborated with Nazi Germany, it's very important
it takes place," Efraim Zuroff [of the Simon Wiesenthal Center] told reporters.
"There can be no clemency, no sympathy ... (etc.),? he said.
 
 
The whole world is slowly opening its eyes to this pestilence.
This satanic expression of prime evil on earth.
This malevolent race that has torn the planet asunder.
 
Imperium
1105

No,the whole world is not opening its eyes,Hungary once again is leading the way first.Glad to see you acknowledge us,rather than cast us as 'gypsies' :)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 09, 2011, 02:55:19 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
in what way are you, or Hungary, leading the way Ricsi?

NL is quoting Hungarian events at last,then declaring that the 'world' is opening its eyes.If only this was true.Here is a very strong bastion against zionazi domination,but we are under very intensive attack as you know.-thumbup-
I really wish the world would awaken to reality,but I think it is a forlorn hope to be honest.
Hungary-the nation of revolutions! the first to kick out communism in 1919,the first to try to break away from communism again in 1956,the first to tear down the iron curtain in 1989.
Not always successful,its true,but always unbroken.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: cosmicwonderer on May 09, 2011, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: ricsi
No,the whole world is not opening its eyes,Hungary once again is leading  the way first.Glad to see you acknowledge us,rather than cast us as  'gypsies' :)

That`s the whole trouble about this world.
Everybody, I mean EVERYBODY is leading the F#####g way.
WHAT WAY?
Where is it going? OVER THE GODDAM RAINBOW?
Enough of your Norman criticism now, ricsi. Will you drop it? Go back a few hundred posts and see why all this shit about Norman started and by whom.

AND YES...RESPECT TO HUNGARY. What next? You want a trophy or something?
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 09, 2011, 04:21:06 PM
Quote from: cosmicwonderer
That`s the whole trouble about this world.
Everybody, I mean EVERYBODY is leading the F#####g way.
WHAT WAY?
Where is it going? OVER THE GODDAM RAINBOW?
Enough of your Norman criticism now, ricsi. Will you drop it? Go back a few hundred posts and see why all this shit about Norman started and by whom.

AND YES...RESPECT TO HUNGARY. What next? You want a trophy or something?

I actually said that at last NL is posting positively about Hungary-hardly criticism-rolleyes-
Respect to all who think the RIGHT way-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 09, 2011, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
Rics, Norman is always fair to all Europeans.  he may have disagreements on a personal level, in here with certain posters, but never on the grand scale of things.  a Hungarian is a European - to him that is all that matters.



we all go through the same experiences and we are all but small sparks fighting a huge machine.  like you said, we suffer setbacks, but what is important is that we fight back and remain unbroken, and i would add, united ;)

UNITED,thats the key word,thanks EN-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 13, 2011, 02:38:22 PM



Another bunch of ignorant, interferring do-gooders!!





May 13, 2011, 10:32 CET

          news
          Amnesty International report underscores "climate of fear" facing Hungarian Roma

                                                                                                          By            MTI                            
       
          Roma continued to face violent attacks and discrimination in Hungary and lived in a climate of fear last year, Amnesty International (AI) said in its annual human rights global report published on Friday morning.
  The world's largest human rights organisation said that in 2010 Hungarian NGOs reported further attacks against Roma people and international human rights monitoring bodies raised concerns over "structural shortcomings" of the Hungarian criminal justice system's response to hate crimes.
  These shortcomings, AI noted, included a "lack of capacity" to recognise and investigate hate crimes, no specialised training or specific guidelines for police and investigators and no effective measures to "map the nature and scale" of the issue.
  Several documented cases last year illustrated that law enforcement authorities often failed to recognise the racial motivation in crimes, AI added.
  AI said that Hungarian NGOs also expressed concerns over a tendency to classify crimes as "common" crimes rather than hate crimes with a racially aggravated motive. As a result, reliable statistics were not publicly available on the real number of racially motivated crimes in the country. Hatred as an aggravated motive was also reportedly ignored in crimes against LGBT people or Jewish people.
   Concerning the Roma the AI report said that the UN Human Rights Council raised concerns about their discrimination in education, housing, health care and political participation, noting also that Hungary's Supreme Court awarded compensation to victims of an anti-Roma school segregation for the first time.
  It said that in September the Council of Europe's Advisory Committee on the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities expressed concerns about violent attacks against Roma people and noted that despite the arrests of the alleged perpetrators there was still "a climate of fear."
  On politics AI noted that an "extreme right-wing political party" called Jobbik gained seats for the first time in Hungary's parliament in the spring elections.
         
                  TAGS:                                                                                                   ethnic politics (http://www.allhungary.hu/politics/tags/ethnic%20politics)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on May 21, 2011, 02:18:25 PM
D?ra D?r?: all kids should become familiar with "rov?s?r?s" (http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2010/02/dora-duro-all-kids-should-become.html)

  Tuesday, February 2, 2010  (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HtSI6QxIfSg/S2j3xSIeU0I/AAAAAAAADUA/oZUp3UE5OKE/s200/Duro_Dora-arc.jpg) (http://"http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HtSI6QxIfSg/S2j3xSIeU0I/AAAAAAAADUA/oZUp3UE5OKE/s1600-h/Duro_Dora-arc.jpg)
The runic alphabet was a writing system, ancient Hungarians used before coming to the Carpathian Basin. Even after the Honfoglal?s the alphabet was used for quite some time, until the Habsburgs phased it out due to their colonial policy.

D?ra D?r?, the head of Jobbik's educational cabinet, spoke about the party's educational policy, among others, the plans of introducing the ancient runic alphabet in the curriculum and the party's determination to advance the subject in the Hungarian school system.


D?niel Gribek: Is the idea of teaching rov?s?r?s (runic alphabet) in schools included in Jobbik's educational program?

D?ra D?r?: We would like to enhance the Hungarian aspects of literature, history and music in education; teaching rov?s?r?s in schools would serve as an element in the effort of bolstering student's national identity. There is an urgent need for that, after all, in the past twenty years national education had different priorities and rov?s?r?s was neglected in the education system.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HtSI6QxIfSg/S2j_GZ9m3vI/AAAAAAAADUI/cmb1xLmzAQ8/s400/rovas_abc_ma.gif) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HtSI6QxIfSg/S2j_GZ9m3vI/AAAAAAAADUI/cmb1xLmzAQ8/s1600-h/rovas_abc_ma.gif)
D.G.: In what form, can you foresee teaching rov?s?r?s in schools?

D.D.: The first priority is to make sure that all kids become familiar with the runic alphabet; this goal could be achieved within a short period of time. We also intend to offer opportunities for learners wanting to delve into the subject more deeply; however, to do this, first, we need teachers that can tackle the challenges.

D.G.: Making the subject mandatory, either as a separate subject or part of other modules, how would you solve the problem of the lack of knowledge of the subject among teachers? Is there openness among teachers to learn the runic alphabet? How much time, do you think teachers need to acquire the skill.

D.D.: I think, it wouldn't take long time for teachers coming out of universities to be skillful in the subject of the runic alphabet. However, until they become available, we could substitute them with visiting instructors.

D.G.: Does Jobbik find the teaching of rov?s?r?s on elementary level sufficient, or rather, it would pursue a more complex and practical method of exploring the writing system, like writing and reading? How much time, would implementing a program like this take?

D.D.: To start with, it would be sufficient if kids would develop a concept about the ancient Hungarian writing system; too much rigor, sometimes have adverse effects. For those interested in the deeper aspects of the writing system, might explore it in evening courses.

D.G.: Can you foresee rov?s?r?s as being part of high school examinations modules? Of course, only after rov?s?r?s becomes part of the regular curriculum of the school system.

D.D.: It's too early to talk about that at the moment, after all we have to start everything from scratch. A couple of years from now, we can revisit the question again: when every Hungarian kids becomes efficient in rov?s?r?s.


Gribek D?niel
(Rovatmagazin.hu - hungarianambiance.com)

Translated by hungarianambiance
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 01, 2011, 04:07:06 PM
B?la Kun,Hungarian communist jew did the same thing here in Hungary in 1919.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCKciNtCQcg&feature=player_embedde (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCKciNtCQcg&feature=player_embedde)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 02, 2011, 04:02:57 PM
The truth about Gy?ngy?spata and ethnic violence in Hungary

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                                                  Recent weeks have seen a growing number of articles, lengthy reports and analyses of the international media concerned about ethnic violence in Hungary, particularly regarding the situation concerning the Gipsy minority. The growing interest of the international media was triggered by recent events in Gy?ngy?spata, a village in North-Eastern Hungary. M?rton Gy?ngy?si MP, leader of the Foreign Affairs Committee of Jobbik Movement for a Better Hungary responds to the most frequent lies surfacing in the international press regarding ethnic violence.
                         (http://www.jobbik.com/files.php?file=uploads/2009/05/2-300x261.jpg)While some articles only painted a misleading overall picture that in Hungary the Gipsy minority has to live in fear due to the aggressive attitude of the majority population, other newspapers already issued the warning that in Hungary Gipsies are being killed in masses by the majority Hungarian population, of course mainly by supporters of the racist Jobbik Party, which party takes its ideology directly from Hitler.
 Contrary to these statements the truth is that Gypsies enjoy an increased and disproportionate level of protection and care in Hungary, i.e. fall under positive discrimination. While this minority to a large extent and in the best case scenario considers social benefits and contributions as the most important source of regular income (the worse scenario being criminal activity), it is for reasons unknown also protected against criminal prosecution with administrative measures by the state authorities.
 The Hungarian authorities contrary, for example, to their French or Italian counterparts do not consider deportation or forcing into ghettos and camps of gipsy criminals, but they pass legislation against those desiring public security, order and lower rate of criminality in their neighbourhoods. While we see no efforts from the side of the government to solve problems of social coexistence, Jobbik is the only political force interested in resolving criminality related tensions between the Hungarian majority and the Gipsy minority. In this regard we never considered, nor consider any act of terror as a right and justifiable measure.
 The same can unfortunately not be said about our fellow Gipsy countrymen, who just recently attacked and beat four persons to near death, partially with (http://www.jobbik.com/files.php?file=/cigobunillAB_649293132.jpg)samurai swords. Members of the Gipsy minority are becoming more and more frequently responsible for killing innocent, lonely elderly people in the countryside, brutally murdered for a minimal amount of money or as it was the case recently for a bottle of wine. All recent demonstrations were triggered by such brutal events, and it is simply outrageous that some news agencies consider the fearful survivors, or the neighbours of the victims who took part in such demonstrations as simple terrorists. Contrary to such opinions, the demonstrating crowds do not consist of "some hundreds of Ku-Klux Klan lookalike people", but of several thousands of Hungarian citizens demanding order and peace in their neighbourhoods.
 The Hungarian Guard (in Hungarian Magyar G?rda), which was established as a protective force with the objective of bringing about public security in the countryside, something that the state and police could no longer guarantee by concerned citizens, carries no weapons, i.e. it is not a paramilitary organization a frequent accusation and lie of the international press. It is neither responsible for any attack against Gypsies.
 Contrary to several allegations it has also seen evidence in recent Court hearings that the recent directed killings against Gypsies which interestingly reached its apex during last years election campaign could by no means be linked with the Jobbik Party, as suggested often by opponents, but rather with the Hungarian state secret services. There is by now clear evidence that at least one of the suspected murderers had direct links to the secret service as an earlier employee. This of course questions the role of the Hungarian state in the execution of the Gypsy victims, with the possible objective of intensifying inter-community and inter-racial tensions within Hungary for the sake of discrediting and blackening a strengthening Jobbik.
 Jobbik would also like to reject any accusations that any atrocities against Gypsies were committed by Jobbik-party members, neither on any "order" nor with hidden support of the party's leadership. Our party does not encourage nor support any violence, should it come from anybody and in any way or form. However, we do not and will not tolerate the humiliation, threatening, robbing, and killing of innocent people trying to live a humble but honest life.
 Statements like that of Mr Ferenc Gyurcs?ny former socialist prime minister about 'Nazi-situation' only deepen ethnic tension in Hungary, since they stigmatize exactly those, mainly old and alone-living Hungarians, who are in any way unable to protect themselves or their belongings against their aggressive Gipsy neighbours. On the other hand, those who commit crimes against old people, feel encouraged to act further so, since they get political support by the likes of Mr. Gyurcs?ny. This is unacceptable, and Jobbik - as a party of the people - will always stand up against such tendencies.
  Budapest May 28, 2011
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on June 04, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
Hotline for reporting harmful online content to be opened

                                                                                                                                              By            Hungary Around the Clock (http://www.allhungary.hu/hatc/)                            
                  The National Media and Communications Authority (NMHH) will operate a hotline in the future where citizens may report harmful content accessible on the internet, president Annam?ria Szalai announced on Thursday.
  Speaking at a conference entitled Information Society Parliament, she said civil groups operate an infrastructure that enables the speedy reporting of violent, xenophobic, terrorist or paedophile content, but they are continuously beset by a lack of funds.




Trying to recreate a nation of cowardly snitches again !
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 08, 2011, 08:18:10 PM
Just so nobody ignores the issue,this is what a gypsy 'king' actually said!


Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 20, 2011, 04:34:51 PM
A victory for common sense! though the weisenthal gang disagree of course :) (http://euradex.net/adserver/www/delivery/lg.php?bannerid=67&campaignid=56&zoneid=1&loc=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politics.hu%2F20110719%2Fwiesenthal-center-finds-kepiros-acquittal-outrageous%2F%23comment-&cb=589146fb0f)
             July 19th, 2011
                    Wiesenthal Center finds K?pir?s acquittal outrageous

            By MTI (http://www.politics.hu/author/mti/)    
                                       Mondays acquittal of Sandor Kepiro (97) of WWII war crimes (http://www.politics.hu/20110718/flash-budapest-court-acquits-wwii-war-crimes-suspect-sandor-kepiro/)  by the Municipal Court of Budapest is an outrageous miscarriage of  justice head of the Simon Wiesenthal Center Efraim Zuroff said in  reaction to the non-binding ruling.
 In its justification, the court said there was no evidence that  Kepiro, serving as a gendarmerie captain in Novi Sad during the war, was  aware that the Jews he had been instructed to detain would later be  killed. It has not been proven either that the uniformed men who were  seen shooting people dead in January 1942 were gendarmeries or border  guards, wearing similar uniforms, therefore they may not have belonged  to Kepiros unit. In defence of Kepiro, the judge, Bela Varga, also  referred to his saving the lives of a local Jewish hotel owner and his  family.
 Concerning a 1944 ruling, in which Kepiro and others were convicted,  the judge said that the verdict had sought collective guilt and  disregarded individual responsibilities, and cannot be taken as evidence  against the suspect.
 Kepiro, who had been brought to the trial from hospital in a  wheelchair, pleaded innocent and denied all charges. I have never  killed people, never plundered, I served my country, he whispered to  his companion.
 Zuroff, however, said after the trial that the acquittal was  inexplicable. He said that this was one of the clearest cases he had  dealt with, and the extensive evidence directly contradicted the  ruling.
 Kepiros trial began on May 5 on charges of his involvement in a raid  that led to the death of more than 1,200 innocent civilians. He was  also charged with being connected to the deaths of around 30 others  executed on the banks of the Danube River in Novi Sad.
 Reading out the detailed justification will continue on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 21, 2011, 02:58:58 PM
More good news from Hungary,where the far-right actually works rather than live in fantasy land!(http://euradex.net/adserver/www/delivery/lg.php?bannerid=67&campaignid=56&zoneid=1&loc=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politics.hu%2F20110718%2Fjobbik-mayor-elected-at-hungarian-village-troubled-by-ethnic-tension%2F&cb=c71ae26c0e)
             July 18th, 2011
                    Jobbik candidate wins mayoral election in village troubled by ethnic strife

            By MTI (http://www.politics.hu/author/mti/)    
                                       Oszkar Juhasz, of radical nationalist party Jobbik, on Sunday  won an interim mayoral election in Gyongyospata, a village in northern  Hungary where ethnic tensions have been high for months.
 Juhasz ran against six independent candidates. Another candidate,  Janos Farkas Jr, the head of the local Roma self government, dropped out  of the race late Saturday.
 Over 60 percent of the villages residents turned out for the vote which was called after Mayor Laszlo Tabi resigned in April.
 Tabi said he left the post for health reasons, but did not deny that  clashes between radical nationalists and the villages Roma community  were a contributing factor when asked by MTI.
 In March, activists of the For a Better Future Civil Guard  Association staged patrols for weeks in Gyongyospata in protest against  what they said was a rising crime rate.
 The situation turned critical when the paramilitary organisation  Vedero (Defence Force) organised a three-day training camp near the  villages Roma neighbourhood late in April but the police intervened.
 At the same time, some 267 Roma women and children were bussed out of  the village in a move that some described as an evacuation but the  organiser, Red Cross Hungary, said was a pre-arranged camping trip.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 21, 2011, 03:08:48 PM
Jobbik wins mayoral by-election ahead Fidesz

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                                                  Jobbik candidate Oszkar Juhasz won the mayoral  election held in Gyongyospata last Sunday, way ahead of the  Fidesz-supported opponent. With outstandingly high, more than 60%  turnout, the Jobbik candidate received 33,8% of the votes, while the  independent but Fidesz-supported candidate came second with 26% in the  mayoral race. Gabor Vona, Jobbik chairman claimed victory over the  governing party and promised Gyongyospata to be an example village of  Jobbik mayoral leadership.
                         Gyongyospata, a village in the eastern part of Hungary has  been in the spotlight for some months now, the international media also  covering the events.

It all began when locals in the village  turned to Jobbik for help and support against petty crimes mostly  committed by -- in their own words -- gypsies. A demonstration against  crime was held by Jobbik and civil groups arrived in the village to  patrol the streets, counterbalancing the complete lack of police  presence, law and order. During the two weeks of patrols, crime rates  significantly fell and the population embraced the civil groups that  brought peace and calm in the troubled village.

The former  Fidesz-backed mayor resigned, mainly due to the obvious positive changes  Jobbik and the civil groups delivered, the results that he had been  unable to provide before. Police occupied the village at the same time  but they were more keen to harass the civil groups than fulfilling their  original duties, which shows that police are an arm of government and  not there for the security of citizens.

The village' Roma (gypsy)  population was 'evacuated' by the Red Cross that later turned out to be  a pre-arranged holiday for some of the Roma families. The timing,  however, strangely coincided with the media spotlight on the village and  now seems to be a poor attempt to create a false picture of  'evacuation' from 'far-right vigilantes', that the international media was ready to jump on (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13170583).

The  real picture has now finally surfaced as the majority of the people in  Gyongyospata voted for the Jobbik candidate. Facts are facts and the  people voted for Jobbik in spite of the false, manipulative media coverage (http://www.jobbik.com/hungary/3201.html).

International  media, including the BBC and its Hungarian correspondent, Nick Thorpe,  have been quiet on the Jobbik victory, proving once again the  establishment media is not there to report, but to shape public opinion  in certain directions.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on July 27, 2011, 02:36:15 PM
And to make things even worse for the farmers, the  company that  distributed the seeds in Baranya county is under  liquidation. Therefore,  if any compensation is paid by the  international seed producers, the  money will be paid primarily to that  companys creditors, rather than  the farmers.
  h/t AllAboutFeed (http://www.allaboutfeed.net/news/hungary-destroys-all-gmo-maize-fields-11994.html)


As usual the victims get f..ked over whilst the guilty quickly go into bankrupcy and scurry off. So common now here with rogue car traders/builders etc...
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on August 01, 2011, 02:06:09 PM
"Jobbik is a nazi party" pathetic slurs as usual. :D
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on August 01, 2011, 06:38:33 PM
(http://euradex.net/adserver/www/images/982b316d3eb622b2ce3ecc5b675fae33.jpg) (http://euradex.net/adserver/www/delivery/ck.php?oaparams=2__bannerid=164__zoneid=1__cb=230ce63da5__oadest=http%3A%2F%2Fcatherinesvineyardcottages.com%2F)(http://euradex.net/adserver/www/delivery/lg.php?bannerid=164&campaignid=88&zoneid=1&OASCCAP=5&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politics.hu%2F20110727%2Fauthorities-looking-into-potential-hungarian-links-to-norway-killings%2F%23comment-55532&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politics.hu%2Fcomments%2F&cb=230ce63da5)
             July 27th, 2011
                    Authorities looking into potential Hungarian links to Norway killings

            By MTI (http://www.politics.hu/author/mti/)    
                                       Hungarian authorities are examining whether last weeks  shootings in Norway had any Hungarian connections, Agnes Vadai, head of  the parliamentary committee for national security, told Tuesdays  Nepszabadsag.
 Vadai, a Socialist, said nothing more is known at the moment about any potential links to Hungarian organisations.
 The national police ORFK said it had been collecting information on the case from the start.
 The Hungarian far-right 64 Counties Movement was among the European  radical groups which had received a letter from Anders Breivik, the  suspect of last weeks shooting rampage, which killed at least 76  people. Laszlo Toroczkai, the groups leader, said the electronic letter  was sent from Breiviks personal email address and 64 Counties was the  only Hungarian organisation which received it, and he only read it after  the assault. Toroczkai said he never met Breivik and his organisation  condemned the attacks, although their ideologies matched in part.
 Gabor Vona, leader of the parliamentary radical nationalist Jobbik  party, also condemned the shootings and said it was a crime against  humanity and called for European efforts to prevent others to follow.




You see,we too are 'linked' ,though not Jobbik party. :)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on August 26, 2011, 01:18:01 PM
Jobbik's response to the bald lies

                                                                           23/08/2011 12:19:00                                                                                                              K?K (http://www.jobbik.com/author/kulugy/)                                                                                                            
                                 Font size:        (http://www.jobbik.com/themes/default/img/font_decrease.gif) (http://www.vivamalta.net/forum/)        (http://www.jobbik.com/themes/default/img/font_enlarge.gif) (http://www.vivamalta.net/forum/)    
                                                                                                                                             (http://www.jobbik.com/thumbnail.php?file=images/2009NewGuard/jobbikcom00151.jpg&size=article_medium)                                                           
                                                  Undoubtedly, Jobbik is on the rise. Not because of  premeditated polls, not only because of our success at the local mayor  election in Gy?ngy?spata. But when the implacable enemies of truth like  the neoliberal media, politicians of the old regime and so-called  parsers are trying to discredit us - in vain - on the base of Anders  Breivik's addle-headed 1500 page 'book' that means we really do our best  at serving the Hungarian electorate.
                         It is indicative how the  Fidesz-government has been trying to use nearly every means to outlaw or  at least to correlate the second biggest party of Hungary and he  Hungarian countryside with outlaw persons. In the spirit of such a line  the government has already criminalized the Szebb J?v??rt  Polg?regyes?let (The Civil Guard Association for a Better Future) who  gained the appreciation of local residents of Gy?ngy?spata by protecting  them from violent Gypsy crime (which the police do not take care of)  and thus winning the mayor's seat.
 They also do so when they try to connect  us to the Norwegian mass murderer only because he enumerated the Jobbik  among patriotic movement (but adding that we unfortunately do not fight  against immigrants) without a word about any contact or any simpathy  toward us - no wonder for Jobbik has never had any contact with him and  he has not said he liked us. Breivik, among others enumerated some  Hungarian communists, too, like B?la Kun or Gy?rgy Luk?cs but liberal  media and our government do not deal with that at all. They only mention  Jobbik and the mass murderer together in order to mislead public  opinion. They are even not bothered by the fact that our party has  immediately condemned the butcher.

It is even odd that when there  is a real coherence and there is a fact - that is he adores Israel and  praises the Zionists in his compendium - tha same neoliberal media takes  no notice.. We do.

Eventually in the name of our party members I refuse the the defamation campaign and the liberal broadside.

Csan?d Szegedi

Member of the European Parliament (Jobbik)

Vice-president of Jobbik, The Movement for a Better Hungary
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on September 01, 2011, 03:20:44 PM
Here we see gypsies stealing petrol from the grass cutting machines provided to them in the local community job creation scheme! They just can't resist stealing even when people try to help them by creating work.
This is in the Northern town with a Jobbik mayor,where the gypsis claimed the lack of work was the cause of criminaliy :)

Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on September 15, 2011, 03:52:47 PM

Hungarian Farmers Battle Harvest Thieves by NewsLook
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Claude on September 18, 2011, 11:48:03 AM
Quote from: etoile noir
Jobbik at 18%, ahead of the Socialists
  source (http://www.jobbik.com/jobbik_news/hungary/3242.html)

Gratul?lok, Jobbik!  -goodjob-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on September 22, 2011, 06:53:02 PM
   Yes,those pathetic neo-liberal scum are now attacking Hungary:mad:





The European Court of Human Rights slapped Hungary for  unlawfully holding two Ivorian asylum-seekers in immigration detention  for five months, the Hungarian Helsinki Committee said in a release.
 The immigrants, represented by the human rights watchdog Hungarian  Helsinki Committee, will receive ?10,000 each from Hungary, in line with  the European Court?s decision.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on September 22, 2011, 07:59:10 PM
Jobbik condemns and despises the Simon Wiesenthal Center

                                                                           05/09/2011 10:36:00                                                                           
                                 Font size:        (http://www.jobbik.com/themes/default/img/font_decrease.gif) (http://www.vivamalta.net/forum/)        (http://www.jobbik.com/themes/default/img/font_enlarge.gif) (http://www.vivamalta.net/forum/)    
                                                                                                                                             (http://www.jobbik.com/thumbnail.php?file=/kepiro_147019103.jpg&size=article_medium)                               S?ndor K?p?r?                            
                                                  Jobbik condemns and despises the Simon Wiesenthal  Centre for its Sunday morning disrespectful statement issued over the  death of the 98 year old S?ndor K?p?r? that was sued for war crimes but  the court cleared of all charges.
                         Jobbik calls upon the Simon Wiesenthal Centre to apologize to the family of the deceased.

We   have enough of double standards, as the communist murderers are still   among us, yet not them but a 98 year old captain of the Hungarian   gendarmerie force has been dragged into the courtroom from his hospital   bed; in the mean time, Bolshevik vampire Bela Biszku and his partners  in  crime who committed horrendous offenses against the Hungarian people  in  the Kadar era, even today receive top pension and live in luxurious   conditions says the Jobbik's statement.

Jobbik is confident  that  at K?p?r?'s funeral ordinary people will express their respect and   sympathy for the man who had to go through a witch hunt in the last  days  of his life that might have hastened his death.

The  Jerusalem  based Simon Wiesenthal Center (SWC) that brought charges  against S?ndor  K?p?r? in September 2006 is deeply disappointed over the  death of S?ndor  K?p?r? who dared to die before the court sentenced him  to jail for war  crimes. Efraim Zuroff, the head of the SWC said  K?p?r?'s death  unfortunately prevented the appeal court to condemn the  man and focus  public attention to the innocent civilians, primarily  Jews, who were  executed by Hungarian Nazi collaborators in World War  II.

Efraim Zuroff's facebook entry:
Perhaps   the only consolation in connection with the terribly-frustrating news   of Kepiro's death before the pending appeal  could overturn his   outrageous acquittal was the quote from his lawyer that his trial   adversely affected his health, a small victory for justice and truth.


(barikad.hu magyarhirlap.hu - hungarianambiance.com)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Sepp44 on September 24, 2011, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: etoile noir
if the human rights watch dog is so keen on their compensation why don't they pay up?
bollox :mad:

This judgment sets a bad and very dangerous and expensive precedent for any country that is holding/detaining illegal immigrants.Ricis' full story is here (http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2011/09/21/european-court-fines-hungary-over-detentions/)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on September 26, 2011, 06:22:18 PM
Quote from: Sepp44
This judgment sets a bad and very dangerous and expensive precedent for any country that is holding/detaining illegal immigrants.Ricis' full story is here (http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2011/09/21/european-court-fines-hungary-over-detentions/)

Welcome back,dont dissapear so quickly again you old warrior !!-thumbup-
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on November 11, 2011, 09:03:28 AM
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on November 18, 2011, 08:59:22 AM
By LEE FERRAN and DRAGANA JOVANOVIC                
                                                       Nov. 17, 2011
                       
                         
                                      
         Nuclear officials said today they believe they have traced the source of a massive, but harmless, radiation plume (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mystery-radiation-detected-europe/story?id=14932064) that has spread across the atmosphere in Europe to an institute in Hungary, but the head of the institute disagrees.
 The Hungary Atomic Energy Authority said the Budapest-based Institute of  Isotopes was "most probably" the source of the continued leak of trace  amounts of Iodine-131 into the atmosphere, according to a statement by the International Atomic Energy Institute (http://www.iaea.org/press/?p=2543). Last week the IAEA first announced (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mystery-radiation-detected-europe/story?id=14932064#.TsUk8T0k5ac)  they received reports of trace iodine-131 detections from countries  "across Europe," but had no idea from where the radiation was leaking.
 READ: Mystery Radiation Detected 'Across Europe' (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/mystery-radiation-detected-europe/story?id=14932064#.TsUk8T0k5ac)
                                         

 According to today's announcement, the HAEA said the leak started on  Sept. 8 and was just identified and stopped Wednesday. The IAEA  repeatedly said the levels of iodine-131 released into the atmosphere  were far too low to pose a public health concern.
 A spokesperson for the IAEA also told ABC News the agency had conducted  air dispersion modeling with the World Meteorological Organization and  those findings pointed to Hungary.
 But the head of the Institute of Isotopes, Mihaly Lakatos, told ABC News  that while a filtering problem at his organization may be responsible  for some of the iodine-131 detected in Hungary, it could not be the  source of detections hundreds of miles away in other European nations.
 "Maybe partly we have something to do with iodine-131 over Budapest, but  not over Europe," Lakatos said. "The distance is too long."
 The IAEA told ABC News Wednesday iodine-131, which has a decay half-life  of just eight days, had been detected in at least seven countries --  from France to Slovakia and Poland. Before the HAEA's announcement, the  IAEA said they were still working to narrow the list of possible sources  for the radioactive leak.
 In response to Lakatos' objections, the IAEA referred ABC News to the  HAEA, who made the claim initially. Representatives there did not  immediately responded to requests for comment.
 Budapest's Institute of Isotopes produces radioisotopes "for a broad  range of application areas, especially healthcare, research and  industry," according to its website (http://www.izotop.hu/?page_id=7). Iodine-131 in particular is commonly used in low doses to help treat thyroid issues.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on November 23, 2011, 04:44:15 PM
Grner False Identity Lawsuit Against Elie Wiesel Set For January 24 in Budapest (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/gruner-false-identity-charge-against-wiesel-set-for-january-24-in-budapest)

    by Carolyn Yeager
 
 Myklos Grner will finally get his day in court!
 
 This writer spoke on the telephone with Grner in Sweden in  September 2010, at which time he assured her he would challenge Wiesels  identity in a court in Budapest the following January. We know how  court dates can be postponed, and even cancelled, but Grner has proved  himself to be a persevering man, and though a year late, it now seems he  will indeed present his evidence in court.  However, the defendant will  not be the highly protected Elie Wiesel himself, but Hungarian rabbi  Slom Kves, who invited  Wiesel to Hungary in 2009 while knowing  that (he) is not a genuine Holocaust survivor but stole the identity  of an inmate, according to Grner.
 (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/bfp_4Gruner_color.jpg) (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/bfp_4Gruner_color.jpg)
 
 In a news story  (http://www.bosnewslife.com/19094-nobel-prize-winner-wiesel-lied-about-holocaust-past-survivor-claims)written  by Stefan J. Bos for the BosNewsLife service, dated Friday, Nov. 18,  Grner (pictured right)  is reported to have said, Its better to sue  Wiesel directly, but that is impossible. After 26 years of research, the  Hungarian court provides the first opportunity to present my case,  which I hope to do by suing the rabbi.
 
 Grner explained, Elie Wiesel, who lives in the United States, is a  very hard man to get. The whole world is protecting him, from [U.S.  President] Barack Obama to [German Chancellor] Angela Merkel. They are  all scared the truth will come out, because of prestige and money. I am  also pressuring the German Bundestag to show me archives about Wiesels  past.
 
 Grner is quoted by Stefan Bos in a private interview on Friday as  saying,  I dont seek financial compensation, but I want [Kves] to  tell the world who his friend Elie Wiesel really is. Wiesel was never  born in Hungary or Romania as he claims and was not in a concentration  camp. He doesnt even speak Hungarian. (I dont know what evidence  Grner has that Wiesel was not born in Hungary or Romania, but I will  surely be pleased if he has some.)
 
 Kves denies the accusations against Wiesel. I was with him two  days and Wiesel spoke with me in Hungarian. He also addressed parliament  in Hungarian. These allegations are of an elderly man with some kind of  complex, he told BosNewsLife. Kves also told Bos he had not been  invited yet for the January 24 court hearing. The 82-year old Grner  has said he is angry at Kves for accusing him of falsifying history,  and comparing him to American academic Norman Finkelstein who wrote The Holocaust Industry.
 
 (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/EW-with-slomo-koves-2009.jpg) (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/EW-with-slomo-koves-2009.jpg)
 Elie Wiesel with Slomo Kves (center) in Budapest in 2009.
 
 
 Its possible this could deteriorate into a circus, but one hopes  not. Grner views the court case in Budapest as a giant leap in a long,  painful, personal journey, according to the BosNewsLife story.  As a  15-year-old boy in Auschwitz whose father had died, he befriended Lzr  Wiesel, who was among those protecting him. In January 1945, as the  Russian army was coming, the inmates were transferred from a satellite  camp of Auschwitz-Birkenau to Buchenwald in Germany.  The satellite  camp was Monowitz, or Auschwitz III, for workers at the IG Farben plant.
 Gruner exaggerates the length of time it took the Auschwitz inmates  to get to Buchenwald, but he indeed was on that march. (The march itself  was only two days, after that they went by train.) Gruner, as well as  Lazar and Abram Wiesel, were registered at Buchenwald, but the man we  know as Elie Wiesel never was. This is proved by the documents held at  Buchenwald.  Gruner states in the Bos article that Abram Wiesel, Lazars  older brother, died on the way, but this is not as he described it in  his book Stolen Identity, nor according to Buchenwald records which record Abram Wiesels death on Feb. 2, 1945 in Barracks 57. (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/buchenwald-for-court-case.gif) (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/buchenwald-for-court-case.gif)
 Miklos Gruner, like most holocaust survivors, has memory problems and embellishes his facts however, he was there and he is in the famous photograph (far left, lower bunk) while Elie Wiesel is not the man at the far right (upper bunk) that he claims is himself. This has been proven on this website Elie Wiesel Cons The World, most recently and thoroughly here (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/gigantic-fraud-carried-out-for-wiesel-nobel-prize).
 According to Bos, Grner still says that when he was invited to meet  Nobel Prize winner Wiesel in 1986, he thought he would be meeting his  old friend. Instead it was a man who Grner claims he never saw  before.Wiesel refused to show me his tattoo. It was a very short  meeting. Grner doesnt mind that Wiesel earns 25,000 dollars for a  45 minute speech. But I dont want him to make money on the deaths of  my family members and the millions of others who perished in the  Holocaust, he said, his voice trembling. I want to leave this world  knowing that I have told the next generation the truthI even want a  dialogue with Anti-Semites and the Catholic Church for I later painted  as an artist.
 (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/EWvid_Gruener-meets-Wiesel.jpg) (http://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/EWvid_Gruener-meets-Wiesel.jpg)
 
Swedish newspaper article from  1986 of Grner-Wiesel meeting.  Grner, on left, greets Wiesel, right,   in a friendly fashion but is inwardly wondering who he is!
It is our hope that Mr. Grner succeeds in  having his day in court and that he will be able to make his case. It  appears that at least the BozNewsLife news service will cover it, and  that is good news for us. We know what he is up against, but still we  hope.  
 
 
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       7 Comments to Grner False Identity Lawsuit Against Elie Wiesel Set For January 24 in Budapest

   
      On November 20, 2011 at 3:41 pm
     
              No surprise, they are all liars.
     

      On November 20, 2011 at 7:37 pm
     
              Great news!  The first salvo has been fired at the Eli the Weasel.  May this ship of erected of lies sink quickly.
     

      On November 20, 2011 at 11:38 pm
     
              Weisel is a Zionist media creation on this prison planet the  Jews rule since 45.Everything they have said or done in history is a  lie.
     

      On November 21, 2011 at 1:02 pm
     
              I am afraid that the weasel will never be punished. The vermin  is the master of the world.In France there are serious proofs that  Einstein stole e=mc2 from the french scientist Poincarre but the  majority of French people dont have this information and still worship  this crook
I am very scared for the future of our children
     

      On November 21, 2011 at 7:07 pm
     
              Oh i cant wait for this too happen .this is the first domino  that will show exactly what liars there are today in this holocaust  industry ..
     
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on November 23, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
They lied about their origins.
Lied about crossing the desert, manna from heaven, Moses opening the waters...
A history of lies by the world's greatest liars - "The Masters of the Lie" - Schopenauer
 
And they lied about the 6 million - their HolyHoax.
Everybody, but everybody knows that the HollowCause is the biggest lie since the Virgin Mary.
And of course, Elie Wiesel is a liar.
 
Let us hope the case gets heard.
The Rodents will do anything to stall it.
This is the last nail in their 6 million coffins.
 
2012: Anno Zero!
Imperium
1111
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on December 30, 2011, 01:33:37 PM
An advert promoting the purchase of only Hungarian made produce instead of imports---banned by the EU  >:(

http://youtu.be/p8bPnfUuoZk (http://youtu.be/p8bPnfUuoZk)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on January 09, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
http://www.kormany.hu/en/ministry-of-public-administration-and-justice/news/agreement-reached-on-restitution-payments-to-holocaust-survivors (http://www.kormany.hu/en/ministry-of-public-administration-and-justice/news/agreement-reached-on-restitution-payments-to-holocaust-survivors)

Agreement reached on restitution payments to Holocaust survivors

January3, 2012 8:25 PMToday a new agreement was signed on restitution payments to Holocaust survivors. The signatories were: Dr. Andrs Levente Gl, Government Commissioner; Marcell Bir, Minister of State for Public Administration; Gyrgy Szab, Dr. Judit Kardi and Gusztv Zoltai, of the Jewish Heritage of Hungary Public Endowment (MAZSK); and Pter Feldmjer of the Federation of Hungarian Jewish Communities (MAZSIHISZ).
Payments can start in the first half of January, as a result of the amendments to the previous agreement.

The parties have jointly amended the restitution agreement to simplify MAZSKs accounting obligations, and so it is now possible for restitution payments for Holocaust survivors living in Hungary to be transferred to MAZSKs bank account in the first half of January.

The amendment was necessitated by the fact that MAZSK had still not managed to completely settle the accounts as stipulated in the restitution agreement concluded between it and the Hungarian Government in 2007; this was due to MAZSKs foreign partner organisation (the Claims Conference) failing to fulfil the accounting requirements specified in the agreement. Administrative simplifications have now been carried out by the parties, in the hope of smoother future cooperation.

(Ministry of Public Administration of Justice)

-------------------

70 years on and those Eternal Parasites are still milking that biggest LIE since the virgin Mary.
The incredible persistence, the cheek and chutzpah of these Rodents.
It is their way of life and survival: it is their nature.

2012: Anno Zero!
Imperium
201201

Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 13, 2012, 02:32:35 PM
Vona: Quit the European Union! Demonstration on Saturday in support of national sovereignty
Wednesday, January 11, 2012


According to Jobbik president Gbor Vona, the European Commission Wednesday's ultimatum is a vicious attack on Hungary's sovereignty. Gbor Vona stressed that Hungary should quit the European Union and proposed a special parliamentary session to discuss the issue. Jobbik also organizes a rally to the European Commission Budapest office on Saturday afternoon.

The European Commission's ultimatum is nothing less, but kicking in the head of a downed opponent said Vona at Wednesday's press conference. He stressed that he doesn't intend to protect the laws the European Commission is criticizing but the sovereignty of the country; the acceptance of this ultimatum would mean the adoption of new restrictions.

According to Vona, there are two lessons to be drawn from the European Commission Wednesday's announcement: in the one hand, Gyurcsny and Orbn-government's appeasing policies necessarily lead to this state of affairs and on the other, it revealed that the EU is not a charitable institution, but a wolf in sheep's clothing, a colonial empire and Hungary is only a colony in the EU.

Regarding the Saturday's demonstration Vona remarked that they are waiting for everybody who believes that freedom is more important than membership in the European Union.

Gbor Vona harshly criticized the socialist and LMP parties for the two opposition parties outdoing the expectations of the European Commission at the expense of national sovereignty.

(MTI hungarianambiance.com)

Posted by HungarianAmbiance at 9:55 AM
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on January 17, 2012, 06:03:30 PM
 EU flag set on fire at Jobbik rally (http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/01/eu-flag-set-on-fire-at-jobbik-rally.html)

Hungarian ambiance news site

 Saturday, January 14, 2012 
Jobbik's biggest ever anti-EU demonstration took place at the European Union Budapest Office on Saturday afternoon. Despite the cold weather and piercing wind thousands of people gathered to express their outrage over the European Union's dictates and colonizing policies.

 

MEP Csand Szegedi said we have received an ultimatum from the EU. The successive Hungarian governments have been steadily retreating and now, we are at the goal line said the vice president of Jobbik. He then added as a reaction to the recent downgrades of the country; let's downgrade the EU by holding a referendum on EU membership.

Regarding the future, Szegedi announced that Jobbik is ready to lead the non-member Hungary to a brighter future.



Financial expert Istvn Varga remarked that on December 9, EU member states created the European Stability Pact, which is virtually the European Monetary Fund, but Hungary did not join to the pact. Therefore, international financial circles by attacking the country want to herd us into this organization. A war is waged against us by financial means and this is what we have to prepare for in the coming years ended his words the renowned financial expert.



The main speaker of the rally was Jobbik president Gbor Vona. The leader of the anti-EU forces recalled Jose Manuel Barroso's letter who attacked Hungary by the most detestable way. Then Vona asked, should we give up our sovereignty? Do we want further restrictions? The street can't belong to the liberal mob like Ildiko Lendvai, or Ferenc Gyurcsany said the party president. We are going to show up at their next rally. It's quite surreal that during liberal street performances the liberal-Bolshevik Ildiko Lendvai begging police to detain her and Ferenc Gyurcsany, who unleashed an unprecedented police terror in 2006, asked liberal protesters whether anybody injured during police action.



What will happen after leaving the European Union asked Vona. Some say we remain without allies. Now, do we have any? No! The crowd roared. Others say that after leaving the EU our economy will be destroyed. It is already destroyed responded  thousands of people. Barroso wrote "we use all means in our power against Hungary." But what did Barroso do when our country was looted under the pretext of privatization? He doesn't protest against feeding imported junk food into the Hungarian people, or against slave wages, not to mention the 2006 police terror said Vona.



After Vona's speech, the leaders of Jobbik gathered on the stage and Jobbik vice-president and one of the heroes of the 1956 uprising Levente Murnyi set the EU flag on fire.



(barikad.hu hungarianambiance.com)

UPDATE:
Police start proceedings against two individuals for setting the EU flag on fire

 

Police charge two individuals with vandalism for setting the EU flag on fire during the Jobbik rally reporting MTI.

As we reported earlier, at the end of the rally Jobbik vice-president El?d Novk and Levente Murnyi set the EU flag on fire.





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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 01, 2012, 04:29:23 PM
 Gbor Vona: Go away robbers! (http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/01/gabor-vona-go-away-robbers.html)  Sunday, January 29, 2012 
THE HIGHLIGHTS OF GBOR VONA'S KEYNOTE ADDRESS

On Saturday, Gbor Vona evaluated the past year and outlined future tasks and challenges in the Sport Max Hall in front of party supporters, sympathizers and members of the diplomatic corps.

 Besides the more than a thousand sympathizers, the high class event attracted several prestigious guests among them Iranian, Croatian, Russian, Lebanese, Indian, Syrian, and leading Polish diplomats, as well the President of the Turkish-Hungarian Chamber of Commerce.

At the brink experimentation is impossible

We don't beat around the bush, we remain who we always were: Hungarians started his keynote speech party President Gbor Vona.

Everything is in a constant state of flux and if the system crashes, we still have to save our soul said Vona. The crisis of the European Union or the decline of the United States and China suggests that "something is very wrong" with our world. I don't want to scare anyone, I merely want to highlight our responsibilities said Vona.

Jobbik spokesperson Dra Dr (in purple) and her husband El?d Novk, the vice-president of Jobbik

At the brink experimentation is impossible. In such situation, neither resignation nor aimless aggression offer solution. We have to analyze the situation first to find a way out of the predicament, because at the brink experimentation is impossible said Vona.

Regarding the Fidesz government's economic policy, Vona remarked that he didn't know what was the original intention -- good or bad, but today he felt there was no trace of good intention in the government's policy.

Three reasons for failure

The party chairman identified four causes that have contributed to the failure of the government's economic policy. The Fidesz's liberal roots and the personal composition of party membership make Fidesz "inherently unsuitable" to chart an independent economic policy. "I can not take a government program seriously where the foreign minister is a member of the Bilderberg group Jnos Martonyi and the country's economic policy is under the control of two neo-liberal politicians, Tams Fellegi and Zoltn Csfalvay. You can't win a war with pawns, spies and traitors said Vona.

Gbor Vona and his wife. On the left, vice-President of Jobbik, Zoltn Balcz

According to Vona, the introduction of the flat tax was a serious error, which made the budget unsustainable and created a social havoc.

These government policies caused social discontent and deep divisions in Hungarian society. Army units that are quarreling with each other can't win a war said Vona.

The guests

Then he added the government announced its Eastern policy shift, in the mean time the Hungarian diplomacy remained in the hands of Euro-Atlantic advocates. 

Real freedom

Vona said Jobbik wants real economic freedom, but drawing lessons from the failed attempts of former governments.

To start with, in power, Jobbik will introduce a progressive tax system that supports value-added work and family planning. Accordingly, child support benefits would be given only to families raising two children; for families with three or more children, child support benefits would be converted into tax credit to put an end to the "child production business."

The sport center from birds-eye view

Vona then restated Jobbik's official policy on public debt public debt should be renegotiated. This doesn't mean to refuse debt payments, but rather to restructure it to free resources for economic growth. If creditors want their money back and not the country, then this initiative is in their best interests as well.

Vona identified agriculture and food industry as key areas to develop. If we succeed in these fields we will be winners, otherwise losers. The country's arable land and water resources are fundamental assets of the state. The status of these resources should be entrenched into the basic law, but Jobbik's proposal to do so was voted down by the government, which was a treasonous act said Vona.



Keep on good terms with the West, in the mean time, develop good relations with the East

Above all, we should restore our own internal market, that Jobbik would like to accomplish by issuing a special credit cards that could be used only in a network of stores selling local products.

Next, we should find foreign markets, which are not located in the EU said Vona. The potential markets are in the East. But to make the economic shift successful we also need a foreign policy shift.

Vona made crystal clear that he doesn't want to quit the European Union, after all we are located in Europe. But our concept of Europe is symbolized by King St. Lszl rather than Cohn-Bandit said Vona.

Member of the Hungarian Guard

The goal is to keep on good terms with the West, in the mean time, develop good relations with the East summed up his thoughts Vona.

Jobbik president named two world powers, which Jobbik would like to develop close relations with Russia and Turkey. Interestingly, we had the longest ever large-scale military engagements with these two countries in our history said Vona. Nonetheless, with these two countries we can develop mutually beneficial alliances.

Next, Vona recalled the worrisome question that we have heard so many times in recent years what will happen if we quit the European Union? But the real question is what will happen to us if we stay?

Visitors watching the speeches from the balcony

Finally, Vona stressed that Jobbik should clarify its intellectual and spiritual foundations.

He said we are not Communists, because our spiritual center of power is not based on the concept of class struggle, we are not fascists, because our spiritual center of power is not based on the concept of the state and we're not Nazis, because our spiritual center of power is not based on the concept of race. But we are not democrats either, in a sense that the term has been defined today, as our spiritual center of power is not based on money and profit said Gbor Vona.

Our party's spiritual and intellectual center of power is based on the Holy Crown that represents the Hungarian statehood said Vona.


We don't compromise with the "Godless, inhuman and 'anti-national' system"... We don't ask God to ease our burden, but to give us strength to endure the trials. We are King Attila's grandchildren and we are not afraid of anything! Go away robbers! This is our country, concluded his speech Gbor Vona.



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   Posted by HungarianAmbiance   at 9:13 AM (http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/01/gabor-vona-go-away-robbers.html)
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 03, 2012, 09:05:11 AM
 Let's rejoice, gypsy rights activist Viktria Mohcsi left the country (http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/02/lets-rejoice-gypsy-rights-activist.html)  Thursday, February 2, 2012 
According to nol.hu, one of the most repulsive politicians of the country, a fierce defender of gypsy criminals, applied for political asylum in Canada.

 She was a member of the liberal (SZDSZ) party that Hungarians voted out of parliament in the last national elections.

She was a member of the former socialist-liberal government responsible for Roma and disadvantaged children integration. She run for the European Parliament and represented the liberal party for four years; as a MEP, she slandered the country continuously, even in her sleep. She was coached by the best and the brightest of liberal hate-mongers and admittedly, she didn't disappoint her handlers.

She claimed that she received death threats in 2009, and she requested police protection. Not surprisingly, she has received a prestigious human rights award in the United States in 2010.

Relatives, friends and acquaintances unequivocally confirmed that she left Hungary last December and went to Toronto, Canada with the intention to apply for political asylum. Several sources confirmed that despite being a nationally known politician she couldn't find a job in Hungary and as a result, she was struggling with serious financial problems.

(MHO/Nol.hu -hungarianambiance.com)

    Posted by HungarianAmbiance   at 1:39 PM (http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/02/lets-rejoice-gypsy-rights-activist.html)       
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 03, 2012, 04:11:38 PM
For anybody visting Budapest,here is a real patriot tea/cafe bar worth visiting!
Vitz Magyarorszg is more than a brand. Revolutionary because it is not extremist or violent, but enduring and an inmost belief in promoting ethical Christian values.
A mission to reintroduce our ethnic roots which Hungary was founded upon, whilst inspiring  us to never forget our valiant heroic ancestors  who fought for truth and virtues to perfect the individual, family and nation.
Korona coffee- tea house is the meeting point for like minded people who are aware theyve  been deceived by liberalisms ideology.
This philosophy  has engulfed all facets of our lives by penetrating our education, media, politics, financial, entertainment, culture, arts and religious beliefs.
In the past our role models were Christ, Attila, Saint Stephen, Saint Laszlo, Hunyadi Mathias etc.  Liberalism trash bombard us with examples like Lady Gaga,  Freud, Darwin, homosexuality, drug industry and modern artists as being the norm. This disturbing environment leads society down a deceiving path, which is the goal of the liberals to divide, conquer  and rule.
My mother immigrated to Australia after the Soviets crushed the Hungarian uprising where I was educated under the left liberalised education system.
As a former believer in left-wing rhetoric I use to ignore my emotions and listen to the teachers and media telling me how it is wrong to love and respect my own .
Now that I no longer prescribe to left and right propaganda labels aimed at controlling the people, Ive become less hesitant to admit my open love for my ethnic and Christian culture. I dont see the average person of my ethnicity  as just another person, but now see them as Im suppose to see them, as relatives and family. Foreign settlers see the average Hungarian and think only about benefiting themselves.
I have found it harder to sit and dismiss my people, and so, my left-wing world view, or rather my immaturity and selfishness no longer have respect in my eyes. I once respected the left for the idealistic and civil rights agenda, but what is so idealistic or civil rights about the modern Left? There is nothing, if denying people their rights in their own lands to protect, love, respect, honor our peoples Christian culture.
Liberals may argue that Christianity has been manipulative however the essence of Christs teachings have stead fast.Within Christianity the liberals have had success in tearing apart the Church by diluting the teachings.
To be Hungarian  is not genetic, however to be blessed with a character and behavior which possess virtues, ethics and morals passed down from our forefathers.
I endeavor to tackle this opportunity in my life and help encourage people to have faith. We should not be ashamed to call ourselves Christian, but be proud to be on the path to a higher teaching which was granted to the Carpathian basin.
In the past Hungary set cultural and traditional standards in Europe, our history has been rewritten by previous occupiers, however we are still here and able to reintroduce the truth to who we are and how we evolved, with historical sources  which reinforce the facts that we are a nation of respectable people who contributed  considerably to Europes progression.
Time has come to turn the tides and begin the reawakening of our society.  I strive to promote our Christian  traditions and history to help better our future for the generations to follow.
God bless Hungary ..  Csikos Laszlo
 
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 16, 2012, 03:02:00 PM
Very interesting read from vdare.com about true national spirit surviving in our part of Europe. :)


Viktor Orban And The National Question In Hungary  By Paul Gottfried (http://www.vdare.com/users/paul-gottfried) on February 13, 2012 at 11:41pm   Viktor Orban, (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/hungary/8995365/Viktor-Orban-Hungarys-political-daredevil-will-be-judged-by-results.html) prime minister of Hungary and leader of Hungarys largest parliamentary bloc Fideszan abbreviation for Flatal Demokratk Szvetsge, the Alliance of Young Democrats)perhaps the most controversial political figure in the former Soviet bloc, is deeply interesting to students of the National Question.
A young hero (http://mno.hu/migr/orban_viktor_beszede_nagy_imre_es_martirtarsai_ujratemetesen-320290) of the resistance to Soviet rule (http://www.vdare.com/articles/witnesses-to-terror) and now the most popular political figure in Hungary (http://www.orbanviktor.hu/in_english_cv_of_viktor_orban/), Orban has aroused violent passions among Western, and some Hungarian, intellectuals. His first premiership, from 1998 until 2002, was for the most part uneventful, but his second term, beginning in May 2010, has been turbulent.
The Socialist-Liberal coalition that Orban replaced had expanded the civil service, trying to buy its loyalty with early retirement and fat pensions. It had also accepted as citizens a wandering gypsy population (http://www.vdare.com/articles/a-gypsy-is-haunting-europe) and offered asylum to non-Magyars, including a sizable group of apparent refugees from Tibet. (http://www.vdare.com/articles/tibets-turmoil-the-immigration-dimension)
Orban has significantly curtailed or abolished this. He has denied citizenship to gypsies who cannot show a long period of residence in Hungary. He has put refugee communities on notice that they can no longer expect to receive support from the Hungarian taxpayer.
Since Orban now enjoys a supermajority in the Hungarian parliament, he has met minimal resistance in introducing his reforms. He has even reached out to the more rightwing nationalists in the Jobbik (= movement) Party, the third-largest party in Hungary. And he has put members of this controversial, emphatically anti-gypsy party on cultural committees in the National Assembly, an act of defiance to the Hungarian Left (http://hungarianwatch.wordpress.com/voices-from-hungary/letter-from-the-hungarian-theatre-critics-association/)
Perhaps Orbans boldest measure: declaring Hungarian minorities in neighboring countries such as Romania (http://www.vdare.com/posts/nature-v-nurture-solved) and Slovakia (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Avdare.com+Slovakia+) to be citizens of Hungary. Hungary was one of the losers in the Great War and the 1920 Treaty of Trianon (http://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_trianon.htm) stripped her of two-thirds of her land and about one-third of her Magyar (ethnic Hungarian) population. Those ethnic Hungarians (http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-return-of-ethnic-nationalism) assigned to Romania were particularly badly treated (http://countrystudies.us/romania/41.htm); the ones who landed up in Yugoslavia (http://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_vojvodina.htm) were killed or expelled at the end of World War II. Orban has not encouraged Hungarians outside of Hungary to rebel, but his reclaiming them as Hungarian citizens and urging them to think of themselves as his compatriots, has generated a certain amount of regional tension.
Orban has also changed the value of the Hungarian currency, the forint, without consulting (http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-bankrupt-pigs-of-europe) the European Union (http://www.vdare.com/articles/european-union-rip), of which Hungary became a member in 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_European_Union_membership_referendum,_2003), and has pointedly indicated that he will deal with monetary as well as human rights questions according to Hungarian national interest.
Most infuriating (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/17/hungarys-new-constitution-seen-as-threat-to-democr/?page=all) for the European multicultural or residually Marxist Left (http://www.vdare.com/articles/yes-virginia-there-is-a-cultural-marxism): the new constitution for Hungary,[PDF (http://www.euractiv.com/sites/all/euractiv/files/CONSTITUTION_in_English__DRAFT.pdf)] which Orban promulgated in January 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constitution_of_Hungary&oldid=475792673) while tens of thousands of Hungarians celebrated around his residence. It vests considerable power in the prime minister as executive and also makes clear distinctions (http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,14998392,00.html) between members of the Hungarian nation, to whom full legal protections are awarded, and individuals who are merely Hungarian residents.
Perhaps most galling for intellectuals who served in the Communist regime: the passages in the Preamble, which refer to Hungary as an occupied country first under the Nazis, who took over Hungary in October 1944, (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Government_of_National_Unity_%28Hungary%29&oldid=472985614) and then later under the Soviets (http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-purest-neocon), until 1991.
Hungarian artists and writers, and most notably Jewish ones (http://www.vdare.com/articles/stalins-willing-executioners-girin-vs-macdonald-0), easily made their peace with the Soviets and their agents. It is not surprising that a very intelligent Hungarian Jewish Marxist of my acquaintance, Agnes Heller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81gnes_Heller), has been livid with rage (http://hetivalasz.hu/itthon/ezen-bukhat-el-a-fidesz-a-filozofusno-szerint-31516) against the Victator, as Orban is now contemptuously called by his opponents.
One Green member of the European Parliament in particular, the famous lifetime leftist Daniel Cohn-Bendit, flies into rage when Orbans name is mentioned. Describing the Hungarian head of state as an authoritarian lunatic may be the nicest thing that Cohn-Bendit has said about him.
Cohn-Bendits anger is spreading. As the Austrian member of the European Parliament Andreas Mlzer notes in Junge Freiheit, every day the European Union is looking for new measures by which to quarantine what it regards as the incipiently fascist regime in Budapest. . [Hetzjagd gegen Budapest (http://www.jungefreiheit.de/Single-News-Display-mit-Komm.154+M5b5ea765b5c.0.html),(Google Translate (http://www.jungefreiheit.de/Single-News-Display-mit-Komm.154+M5b5ea765b5c.0.html)) January 15, 2012]
This reminds Mlzer of the reaching for extremes that afflicted the same body in 2000, when it tried to punish Austria for allowing the supposedly extremist Freiheitliche Partei stterreich and its leader Jrg Haider  (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Avdare.com+Haider+)to participate in a coalition government.
Then as now, opponents of extremism appealed to Article Seven of the EU Charter, allowing for joint action against a country violating human rights. Then as now, the German Chancellor, wishing to show how antifascist Germany had become, assured the world that this rogue rightwing neighbor has been placed under surveillance
Needless to say, such surveillance does not occur when former East German Stasi (http://www.isteve.com/Film_The_Lives_of_Others.htm) informers become major political actors in German affairs; or when the German Party of the Left, composed largely of recycled Communist officials, is allowed to muscle its way into provincial governments. Conservative nationalists and Communists (Christian Democratic Chancellor Angela Merkel  (http://www.vdare.com/search/node/Angela%20Merkel)was a member of the Communist youth movement in East Germany) (http://www.newstatesman.com/200507250025) are not to be seen as morally equivalentat least, not by the Western intelligentsia.
And this may be the main lesson to be derived from this exercise in orchestrated anger. Western Europe is vastly different from the countries of the former Soviet bloc. Paradoxically, the Iron Curtain was an unintended protective blanket. (http://www.vdare.com/articles/a-conversation-with-a-russian-immigrant) Hungarians, Poles, Balts, Slovaks, etc. never underwent the kind of multicult indoctrination that has succeeded so well in Western democracies. They remain what the German philosopher Herder  (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Johann_Gottfried_Herder&oldid=475545182)referred to as historic, cultural nations. They do not even pretend to, let alone actually, embrace the politics of guilt toward national or civilizational victims or  the human rights ideology that have stifled national awareness in Western Europeabove all  (http://www.vdare.com/articles/vdare-proposition-nation-first-sighting-by-peter-brimelow)in a reeducated and arrogantly masochistic Germany.
Orban exemplifies this post-Communist, nationalist leadership. The only evil he experienced is the longtime Communist dictatorship, the memory of which Western PC politicians try to ignore in favor of crusades against a largely declawed or mythical Right.
Not surprisingly, Orban was raised as a Reformed Protestant (http://church.lutheran.hu/reformatio/pmerfordkovek_e/pm_16_e.htm)that is, as a member of what Hungarian patriots even in a predominantly Catholic country, view as the national church. Most of the great Hungarian nationalists of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuriesand even earlier, like Ferenc Rkczy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_II_R%C3%A1k%C3%B3czi) in the early eighteenth centurywere Protestants and, moreover, usually Calvinists. Catholics were seen as too closely allied to the Habsburgs and therefore as members of the religion of an occupying power.
And, not insignificantly, Orban was born and grew up in Szkesfehrvr in Western Hungary, about midway between the Austrian border (http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-fulford-file-by-james-fulford-8#b3) and Budapest. When I last visited Hungary in 1965, that fortress town (vr is the Hungarian word for a fort) housed the largest contingent of Soviet troops in the country. They had been left there after the Soviets put down the Hungarian uprising in 1956as a reminder of who was in charge and as a means of dealing with future unrest in the Hungarian capital.
One can only imagine the impression this had on the young Orban.
But among those protesting Orbans vision of a resurrected Hungarian nation, beside the inflamed multiculturalists and open-borders enthusiasts, is another group on the left.
They are the older, predominantly Jewish populationnumbering now perhaps 100,000 out of a total TK population whose families had been persecuted and sometimes murdered during the Nazi occupation and sometimes by Hitlers Hungarian collaborators. Hungarian Jews often viewed Stalins armies and the Soviet victory as a godsend.
Indeed, Jews, including family members of mine, (http://www.vdare.com/articles/paul-gottfrieds-encounters-with-history) were heavily involved in two brutal communist dictatorships in Hungary, the first under Bela Kun (http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/hat/hungary/fhungary1919a.htm) (Kohn) 1919-1920 and the second under the Stalinist dictatorship of Matyas Rakosi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1ty%C3%A1s_R%C3%A1kosi) (n Rosenfeld) 1945-1956. Wikipedia refers to these murderers as "atheists, but they were ethnically Jewish. In Hungary the involvement of Jews in Communist regimes has inevitably generated anti-Semitism, which was already apparent in the uprising in 1956. Although the Israeli historian Jacob Talmon (http://books.google.ca/books?id=StmTjHdSQ7MC&pg=PA224&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false) and Richard Pipes (http://books.google.ca/books?id=pfNEY931UzYC&pg=PT438&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false) discuss this problem in their books, Wikipedia tries to ignore it and dwells on Christian and fascist anti-Semitism among the Magyars
Personally, I believe these overzealous critics of Orban are living with the ghosts of the past. And it must be said that, unfortunately, some of these critics compromised themselves by serving a brutal foreign dictatorship.
Nonetheless, their fears are real and to some extent understandable. These opponents of Orban would likely be content with a Hungarian government of the deracinated sort being urged by the EU.
But that is not likely to happen in Hungary, or in most places liberated from Soviet control. There the national spirit is still strong and thriving.
From the perspective of a Western world that has moved too fast and too far in the opposite direction, it is gratifying to see the Hungarians are not imitating our example too closely.
 
Paul Gottfried [ email him ]  (gottfrpe@etown.edu) recently retired as Professor of Humanities at Elizabethtown College, PA. He is the author of After Liberalism (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=vdare&creative=9325&camp=211189&link_code=as2&path=ASIN/0691059837), Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?link_code=ur2&tag=vdare&camp=1789&creative=9325&location=/gp/product/0826214177/) and The Strange Death of Marxism (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?link_code=ur2&tag=vdare&camp=1789&creative=9325&location=/gp/product/0826215971/) His most recent book is Leo Strauss and the Conservative Movement in America (http://www.amazon.com/Leo-Strauss-Conservative-Movement-America/dp/1107017246/r?_encoding=UTF8&tag=vdare&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325)
 
 
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on December 18, 2012, 11:01:15 AM
Former Hungarian liberal MEP Viktria Mohcsi said something amazing in a Canadian TV documentary
Friday, December 14, 2012



The documentary was screened on CBC Wednesday evening. In the documentary, the former MEP who applied for political asylum in Canada reasoned that her life was in danger in Hungary as she received threats due to the fact that she urged authorities to speed up investigation of the Roma murders. (In 2009, the home of a gypsy family was firebombed and while father and son escaped from the flames unknown assailants shot both of them. Later, the alleged murderers have been arrested but it seems that since then the murder case has been put on the back burner. It also turned out that earlier, one of the accused worked for the Hungarian secrete service.)

Mohcsi said former (Gyurcsany) government officials decided that most of the information relating to the murder case must remain classified for 80 years because it might link government officials to the murder ("mert azok egyesek szerint sszefggsbe hozhatnak nhny llami tisztsgvisel?t a gyilkosokkal") said Mohcsi.

She is risking 15 years in prison if she talks about the issue in more details; she fears that the Hungarian secret service might find her in Canada said Mohcsi.

"But if nobody talks about the Roma murders, then the investigation will never end. I do not want my relatives to get killed" said Mohcsi in the documentary while struggling to hold back tears. She then added that she hoped that both the Canadian and the Hungarian Governments are aware of the "dangers" she is facing.

(Notes: The suspicion that Gyurcsany officials may have been involved, directly or indirectly in the murder case lingers since the arrest of the alleged perpetrators. Now, Mohacsi, who as a MEP was well positioned to look into confidential information, confirms that suspicion. It is also telling how the Hungarian liberal mainstream media stonewalling the story.)

You can watch the anti-Hungarian propaganda piece here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/12/f-roma-canada.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/12/f-roma-canada.html)

(MTI hungarianambiance.com)
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Anonymous said...
The Canadian Broadcast Corporation - CBC - tried to play this up as part of their multi-cultural agenda to flood Canada with 3rd-world trash. Fortunately, most viewers' comments on the site see through the agenda. Ironically, the CBC ran a story of a Chinese owned mine in the Western part of the Canada exclusively staffed by Chinese workers on "work visas" - Canadians need not apply in their own country ! Naturally the government denies any connection. A wealthy country needs foreigners to develop its own resources !


Canada used to be a nice country. But the New World Order has deemed it to be a 3rd World colony - heritage and citizenship doesn't matter - low quality slave immigrants from the 3rd world are the preferred immigrant.

DECEMBER 14, 2012 8:58 AM
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 20, 2013, 09:02:39 PM
Hungarian ambiance report on Hungarian_Israeli match.



The Hungarian flag was banned during Szolnok Olaj vs Hapoel Holon basketball match in Szolnok
Wednesday, February 20, 2013




At the EuroChallange Cup basketball match between Szolnok Olaj and the Israeli Hapoel Holon in Szolnok on Tuesday organizers didn't let fans carrying Hungarian flags entering the sport center.

Apparently, the request of the ban came from the Israeli team and organizers of the game slavishly complied with the request even without questioning the reason behind it.

Besides the Hungarian flag, the Szkely flag and the use of banners were also outlawed during the match.

When it became clear that organizers were not joking fans left the sport center and boycotted the game.

What kind of world are we living in when a foreign country can outlaw the national flag of the host nation? This is really humiliating. Do organizers realize that this is our country and not an earth pile that foreigners can use the way they want it said the fans after leaving the sport center.

Outlawing the national flag in a sport event is unprecedented by any standard; it can never happen for instance, at Ajax Amsterdam soccer games where more Israeli flags can be seen than the actual symbols of the soccer club said the fans.

And what was the justification behind the unprecedented police presence, which was conspicuous both in and around the sport center, but officers also mingled with spectators in the viewing area; even a 50 member swat team was deployed while the Israeli security chief constantly watched the spectators.

Due to the extraordinary security measures and the fact that hardcore fans boycotted the match, the sport event completely lost its festive atmosphere.

By the way, the Hungarian basketball team won Tuesday's EuroChallange Cup game against Israeli Hapoel Holon by a score of 81-66.

(hunikum.info hungarianambiance.com)
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Anonymous said...
Banning ones national flag within a country is the act of a traitor and should be against the law to begin with.

FEBRUARY 20, 2013 AT 11:20 AM
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on April 22, 2013, 10:57:31 AM
http://www.euronews.com/2013/04/22/hungarians-protest-against-growing-anti-semitism/

The yearly HolyHoax charade.
The usual circus where a few hundred Rodents, bussed from all over Europe, gather to renew their hatefulness.
E andate al'inforno!


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on May 05, 2013, 09:33:08 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2013/05/04/jobbik-leads-anti-jewish-rally-in-budapest-on-eve-of-world-jewish-congress/

Jobbik leads anti-Jewish rally in Budapest on eve of World Jewish Congress


Hungary’s far-right Jobbik party organised Saturday’s anti-Jewish rally in Budapest on the eve of the meeting of the World Jewish Congress in the capital.

Currently Hungary’s third biggest party with more than 10 percent of the seats in parliament Jobbik is openly anti-Jewish, and accuses Israeli businessmen of buying up property in the country wholescale. Leader Gabor Vona claims Hungary is being “subjugated to Zionism”.

“We are special here in Europe, but not because we are the most anti-Semitic nation, but because that even if all of Europe is at their feet, even if all of Europe licks their feet, even then we will not,” said Vona.

About 1000 Jobbik supporters attended the rally, guarded by their banned, but tolerated, uniformed security wing.

Hungary has seen far-right sentiments rise in recent years, and Jobbik has become ever-more strident and open in its opinions.

“The strengthening of Jobbik is only a symptom in these matters. The bigger problem is that around half a million people support the far-right and many people accept the negative attitude towards Jews,” said the Chairman of the Federation of Jewish Communities Peter Feldmajer.


In April the annual March for Freedom by the Danube, into which the Nazis threw many of the some 600,000 Hungarian Jews to perish in World War Two, attracted a record turnout from people angry at the rise in anti-Semitism.

That rise is one reason the World Jewish Congress came to Budapest this year. It opens on Sunday under high security, which has also been stiffened around the city’s synagogue.

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Excellent!
We salute our Jobbik friends and stand four square with them, against the Jews.
We of Imperium Europa, understand the Enemy, very well.

We are not anti-Semitic.
The ancient Assyrians were Semitic, the Egyptians, the Palestinians, the Lebanese are Semitic...
We have nothing against these People.

We are not anti-Zionist.
Zionists were divided over where the Rodents should settle.
Some accepted Uganda, others Madagascar, some Tasmania...

We are ANTI-JEWISH!
We recognize the Jews as our most dangerous, hidden, lethal Enemy.
We know them for what they are: a Race apart, Golem, Robots, the creation of the Demiurge.

We know them intimately: as our Natural Enemies.
A fight that started aeons ago - a fight between two Gods.
Our Noble God - against that incarnated, Satanic Spirit.

An implacable Hatred animates Them.
They can never, ever stop attacking us - it is in their blood, their very animus - De Profundis.
Only dumping them onto Madagascar and sealing Them there, preferably sterilized: can finally rid us of this cancer.

Again, We salute Jobbik - and hope to meet them in Brussels in 2014.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on May 28, 2013, 09:18:14 AM
http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=314366

Jobbik MP: Auschwitz museum may not reflect facts 
By SAM SOKOL
26/05/2013   
 
Israeli envoy to Hungary seeks legal opinion after MP Gaudi-Nagy said school children shouldn't be forced to visit site. 

[The Israeli] Ambassador to Hungary Ilan Mor is consulting with a local lawyer after comments casting doubt on the Holocaust, made by an extreme nationalist lawmaker, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

During a debate in parliament on Thursday, Jobbik MP Tamas Gaudi-Nagy announced that he believed that the museum at the Auschwitz death camp in Poland “may not reflect real facts.”

His comments came during a debate over a proposal to send Hungarian schoolchildren to the camp as part of their education.

Holocaust Remembrance Year in Hungary is coming up in 2014 and there has been discussion in the country regarding the integration of Holocaust education in the curriculum.

The Hungarian news agency MTI reported that Gaudi-Nagy said the site “may not reflect the real facts of history,” and that schools should not be “forced to take up such an expensive venture.”

While Israel has yet to officially respond to Gaudi-Nagy’s statement, one of a long line of proclamations deemed anti-Semitic by both the American State Department and local Jewish community, Mor told the Post that “the embassy is asking a legal opinion and, depending on this, will consider further actions.”

According to Hungarian law, “publicly denying the crimes of National Socialism” is considered a crime. However, Mor said, he has not heard any talk from Hungary’s political classes regarding possible legal action against Gaudi-Nagy.

Dr. Mikecz Peter, a representative of Prime Minister Viktor Orban in Jerusalem for consultations with the Foreign Ministry and the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial, told the Post on Thursday that Hungary has a “zero-tolerance” policy on anti-Semitism.

Gaudi-Nagy’s statement drew condemnations from Hungary’s ruling party as well as from its leading Jewish group.

“Nobody has the right to question the Holocaust, the suffering and death of millions of people,” the leader of the ruling Fidesz party, Antal Rogan, said in a statement Thursday.

The Federation of Hungarian Jewish Communities, or Mazsihisz, called on “democratic deputies in parliament” to reject Gaudi-Nagy’s remarks and also called on the house speaker “to initiate legal proceedings to restore the reputation of parliament.”

Neither Gaudi-Nagy nor Jobbik responded to requests for comment.

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Those born Liars, keep pushing the Biggest Lie since the Virgin Mary.
Natural born Liars, throughout their 4,600 year history.
It is in their Rodent genes.

Indoctrinating school children with their Holy Hoax Lie.
As they have done in Malta - at Castille even, through kind permission of that Bicca Ex President tal-Azzjoni Kattolka.
Dak li dahal, ma martu, gol Loggia ta Satana bis-suppira f'rasu - u irrid jerga jitghammed.


"You are of your father the Devil.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and a Liar.
Like him, even when you speak in your natural tongue, you can speak only Lies."  JC  John 8:44


Il Grieden tad Drenagg!

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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on August 31, 2013, 08:58:22 AM
http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=682443:hungary-sheds-bankers-shackles&catid=108:liberty&Itemid=1220&acm=2094_671

Hungary Sheds Bankers’ Shackles
International Monetary Fund told to vacate the country
Nation now issuing debt-free money


Hungary is making history of the first order.

Not since the 1930s in Germany has a major European country dared to escape from the clutches of the Rothschild-controlled international banking cartels. This is stupendous news that should encourage nationalist patriots worldwide to increase the fight for freedom from financial tyranny.

Already in 2011, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán promised to serve justice on his socialist predecessors, who sold the nation’s people into unending debt slavery under the lash of the International Monetary Fund (IMF ) and the terrorist state of Israel. Those earlier administrations were riddled with Israelis in high places, to the fury of the masses, who finally elected Orbán’s Fidesz party in response.

According to a report on the German-language website “National Journal,” Orbán has now movedto unseat the usurers from their throne. The popular, nationalistic prime minister told the IMF that Hungary neither wants nor needs further “assistance”from that proxy of the Rothschild-ownedFederal Reserve Bank. No longer will Hungarians be forced to pay usurious interest to private, unaccountable central bankers.

Instead, the Hungarian government has assumed sovereignty over its own currency and now issues money debt free, as it is needed. The results have been nothing short of remarkable. The nation’s economy, formerly staggering under deep indebtedness,has recovered rapidly and by means not seen since National Socialist Germany.

The Hungarian Economic Ministry announced that it has, thanks to a “disciplined budget policy,”repaid on August 12, 2013, the remaining €2.2B owed to the IMF—well before the March 2014 due date. Orbán declared: “Hungary enjoys the trust of investors,” by which is not meant the IMF, the Fed or any other tentacle of the Rothschild financial empire. Rather, he was referring to investors who produce something in Hungary for Hungarians and cause true economic growth. This is not the“paper prosperity” of plutocratic pirates, but the sort of production that actually employs people and improves their lives.
 
With Hungary now free from the shackles of servitude to debt slavers, it is no wonder that the presidentof the Hungarian central bank, operated by the government for the public welfare and not private enrichment, has demanded that the IMF close its offices in that ancient European land. In addition, the state attorney general, echoing Iceland’s efforts, has brought charges against the last three previous primeministers because of the criminal amount of debt into which they plunged the nation.

The only step remaining, which would completely destroy the power of the banksters in Hungary, is for that country to implement a barter system for foreign exchange, as existed in Germany under the National Socialists and exists today in the Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, or BRICS , international economic coalition. And if the United States would follow the lead of Hungary, Americans could be freed from the usurers’ tyranny and likewise hope for a return to peaceful prosperity.

Ronald L. Ray is a freelance author residing in the free state of Kansas. He is a descendant of several patriots of the American War for Independence.

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This is indeed great news.
Anticipating our plans for the coming Nova Europa to free itself from the Rodent Usury System.
The coming Imperium will issue real not fiat money.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 02, 2013, 02:24:27 PM
http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=686201:heroic-measures&catid=181:campbell&Itemid=1542&acm=2094_689


LESSONS FROM HUNGARY

The Hungarians have done it again. As this writer likes to recount whenever he can, those tough people were the ones who, in October, 1956, had finally had enough of Jews terrorizing, torturing and murdering them. As we can relive in David Irving’s Uprising, they stormed the buildings housing their Jewish overlords in the secret police and other departments of Communist terror. The freedom fighters dragged their Jewish tormentors into the streets and killed them. They shot them and lynched them by the hundreds. Trees and lampposts had Jews swinging from them all around Budapest. It must have been glorious.

Incredibly, the Hungarians are again leading the way to freedom from Jewish rule. The Hungarian government has done the one and only great thing that any government can do: it has issued debt-free currency. For the past two years, Hungary has paid off its fake “debt” to the IMF and banking gangsters with the new Hungarian equivalent of 2.2 billion Euros and their formerly dead economy is prospering like mad. This has made the Jews both incredulous and of course very angry.

Do we suppose America could not do the identical things? By that I mean the ’56 thing and the currency thing. These are the two elements of a Defense Against Jewish Aggression. All predatory Jews must be killed, number one, starting with the most notorious and destructive ones. There are so many in this category that we can begin just about anywhere.

Doing this, we shall eventually find ourselves in Manhattan, pulling Jews out of the Federal Reserve Bank, Goldman Sachs, the CFR and the ADL, among other dens of Jewish iniquity. Manhattan is the Comstock Lode of predatory Jews, just as Hollywood is on the other coast. There are dens of Jewish iniquity in every city in America and they must all be eradicated....contd

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The Hungarian Uprising in 1956 was an anti Jewish pogrom.
The Magyars just couldn't stand the Rodents any more.
They lynched them whenever they caught them.

A lesson for the Final Fight to the Finish that is inevitably coming.
Where every Rodent, anywhere in White lands, would be considered a pest, vermin.
"Jews should be hunted down, like pests" - Washington.

Nothing we do to this Eternal Enemy, could ever equal the score for what they have done to us.
Eternal wars, fratricides, Whites killing Whites at the Rodents instigation and machinations.
They will have nowhere to run to: except Madagascar.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: oebalus on September 02, 2013, 04:50:35 PM
When the isreli ambassador is consulting a lawyer, a lawyer ? on the statements that schoolchildren should not be coerced to visit the museum , the extent of Juden overeach is deployed to its maximum effrontery . Why should schoolchildren be forced to visit the museum. It has nothing to do with European history.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 02, 2013, 11:23:16 AM
Read Post 303

http://www.euronews.com/2013/10/02/hungarian-government-moves-against-resurgent-anti-semitism/

Watch the Hungarian Deputy Prime Minister grovel before the Rodents.
This hateful Tribe of roving marauders - loathed, despised by all since time immemorial.
But their Dark Age of Kalyuga (4,600 years) ended in Dec 2012.

Soon, they will be hunted down as pests, all over the White World.
And this time, they will have nowhere to go, within the planetary Imperium.
We will quarantine them ALL on Madagascar - there to fleece and tear each other apart.

Il Grieden tad-Drenagg!


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on February 15, 2014, 08:13:31 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/15/protests-as-hungary-s-far-right-jobbick-party-holds-rally-in-former-synagogue/

Protests as Hungary’s far-right Jobbick party holds rally in former synagogue

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Well done, Jobbik! -
We salute you and anticipate the day when we shall join forces in Brussels.
Well done for confronting these Eternal Pests, these ever complaining Rodents.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: ricsi on February 26, 2014, 01:52:24 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/15/protests-as-hungary-s-far-right-jobbick-party-holds-rally-in-former-synagogue/

Protests as Hungary’s far-right Jobbick party holds rally in former synagogue

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Well done, Jobbik! -
We salute you and anticipate the day when we shall join forces in Brussels.
Well done for confronting these Eternal Pests, these ever complaining Rodents.


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It was a former synagogue now converted into the city cultural centre,a perfectly legal place to meet according to the city council,indeed the only indoor venue large enough to meet,so sorry jews but its not yours to moan about anymore.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on May 29, 2014, 10:41:55 AM
http://www.jobbik.com/ep_elections_historical_breakthrough_jobbik

EP ELECTIONS: HISTORICAL BREAKTHROUGH OF JOBBIK

A historical milestone has been reached by Jobbik on the European elections held on May 25. The right-radical party got the second place by gaining 14,8 percent of the votes and can send three members to the European Parliament.

“I have an important announcement to make. As of today the second strongest party of Hungary is called Jobbik” the president of the party, Gabor Vona told at the election's night, gaining huge applause from the public. Vona thanked the activity of the supporters of the party during the campaign, reminding his audience what a shameful attack Jobbik had to face from the side of governing Fidesz. It is known that the governing party even used the state intelligence services for its political purposes in the campaign against Jobbik, when it instigated a smear-campaign against Jobbik MEP Béla Kovács.

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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 05, 2014, 09:13:21 AM
National Policy Institute Conference Salvaged in Hungary Despite  Police State Tactics to Shut It Down -- Organizer Arrested


BUDAPEST, October 4, 2014. Despite police state efforts to shut down a conference of racial realists, the meeting proceeded with a somewhat reduced programme tonight, at a location that was a closely guarded secret.Over 100 attendees from across the European world gathered for a sumptuous Hungarian dinner and gave standing ovations to  former Croatian diplomat Tom Sunic and American Renaissance founder and author Jared Taylor.

The communist red star may no longer fly in the Hungarian flag but repression is still the order of the day in post communist Hungary. The present regime seems to have learned little of such rights as freedom of speech or assembly or freedom from unreasonable detention.

The Washington-based National Policy Institute had planned a three day gathering here. called the European Congress. Announced speakers included Alexander Dugin, a former close advisor to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Jared Taylor founder of the American Renaissance.

 Under pressure from the usual suspects and enemies of freedom, Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orbán  ordered Interior Minister Sandor Pintér to “use all means available” to prevent the congress. Pintér said the event “is built on openly racist ideological grounds, participants openly promulgate race-theory, therefore the expression of their ideas runs counter to Hungary’s Basic Law”.

However, according to The Budapest Beacon (October 2, 2014) " the Hungarian Civil Liberties Union (TASZ) says Pintér’s ban is contrary to the Basic Law that was drawn up by his own party. TASZ said while it strongly opposes the ideas that will be propounded at the congress, “freedom of expression equally applies to those spreading racist theories”. According to them, there is no criminal act as long as nobody’s rights are violated. Until then it can be considered peaceful and legal. “So far there has been no sign that this will not be the case,” it wrote." NPI organizer Richard Spencer insists: " “This kind of free expression is explicitly protected by Hungary’s recently enacted constitution. Our fear is that much about the event might have been ‘lost in translation’ or, worse, that the ministry is responding to untruthful messages sent by those who oppose the congress, as well as the very notion of traditional European identity.”

Attendees arrived from Britain, Ireland, Finland, Sweden, Holland, Germany, Belgium Canada, the U.S., Romania, Croatia, France, Slovakia and Hungary.

The Hungarian government denied Mr. Dugin a visa. NPI founder Bill Regnery, the scion of a prominent Chicago publishing family, was detained at the airport in Budapest, held overnight and deported. A Budapest hotel where attendees had been encouraged to register arbitrarily cancelled registrations booked through the conference. The nearby convention centre where the conference was to be held also cancelled under government pressure.

French author Philippe Vardon was approached by the French police on behalf of the Hungarian police and was threatened that, if he came to Hungary, he'd be arrested. "this is outrageous," Jared Taylor told tonight's gathering. "France and Hungary are members of the Schengen Group (committed to free movement across borders). He was told he was 'a notorious racial activist,' and, therefore not allowed in."

Similarly, Arktos publishers and the nationalistic Jobbik Party who were to be active participants withdrew at the last minute.

On Friday evening, a number of attendees gathered in "The Clock" cafe. Around 10:00 p.m., 50 burly Hungarian police entered. They closed off all exists. About 50 patrons were told they could not leave. The police checked IDs. Many people had only a driver's licence. Richard Spencer was detained and arrested. He repeatedly asked what he had done wrong, what the charges were. He has not been seen since. About another 30 patrons were, detained, put in police vehicles and driven to their hotels to show their passports. One embarassed policeman told an English attendee: "I am sorry for fucking up your evening." More police vehicles were parked along the narrow street. The other 20 attendees, including myself, were detained in the bar but then let go after two hours. -- Paul Fromm


This is the same Jewish terror of communism - under the guise of liberalism.
The same pestilential Tribe of Rodents behind the scenes.
Until we extirpate Them we shall not have peace.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 06, 2014, 08:20:46 PM
http://www.amren.com/features/2014/10/towards-a-world-brotherhood-of-europeans/


Towards a World Brotherhood of Europeans

Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, October 5, 2014


........We must be, all of us, comrades in this great struggle for the defense of everything that we love, in this struggle for the defense of Europe.

Today, the lines are not so clearly drawn, the crisis is not so sharp, but for our generation, this is Thermopylae, this is Poitiers, this is the Siege of Malta, this is Blood River.

Men of Europe, my brothers, we must stand together. We must struggle together, so that together we will prevail.

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For Europeans to stand together against the teeming billions of the world -
Europeans must shed their petty Nationalism and adopt a Supra Nationalism:
The Unifying IDEA:  IMPERIUM EUROPA.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on January 28, 2015, 07:35:00 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2015/01/28/whats-the-link-between-world-war-1-and-hungarys-675000-new-citizens/

An interesting article:

What’s the link between WW1 and Hungary’s 675,000 new citizens?

   

Hungary has controversially amassed 675,000 new citizens in just four years, fresh figures released to Euronews reveal.

Experts say the move is linked to Hungary’s ‘nation-building project’ and has fuelled tensions in bordering regions such as Transylvania.

They claim it has also strengthened nationalists’ grip on power in Budapest and handed tens of thousands of ethnic Hungarians in Ukraine and Serbia access to the European Union.

It comes after a new law – pushed through by prime minister Viktor Orban’s centre-right Fidesz party – came into effect in 2011, making it easier for ethnic Hungarians living outside the country to apply for citizenship.

The vast majority of new citizenships since 2011 were handed out to those living in neighbouring Romania (268,006), Ukraine (28,395) and Serbia (87,529).

There were 261,214 citizenships handed out to people living in Hungary, but no detail on their nationality was provided to Euronews.

WHY HAND OUT SO MANY NEW CITIZENSHIPS?

Dr Zsuzsanna Árendás, from the Central European University, told Euronews the new law was strongly-related to Hungary’s “ongoing nation-building project”.

Hungary gave up two-thirds of its territory under the 1920 Treaty of Trianon, after finishing on the losing side in World War I, leaving large numbers of ethnic Hungarians living in neighbouring countries, such as Romania, Slovakia and Serbia.

She added: “The issue has a long history in Hungarian politics and is strongly related to Hungary’s still ongoing nation-building project. But this citizenship law intends to address ethnic Hungarians’ [needs] by giving them citizenship without expecting them to literally move to Hungary.”

Agata Gostyńska, from the Centre of European Reform, said: “The 1920 treaty is still in the minds of Hungarians and Orban is taking advantage that Hungarians still cannot come to terms with losing so much territory. I think the experts would agree that it’s become part of Orban’s strategy to rebuild this.”
HOW HAS IT FUELLED REGIONAL TENSIONS?

Slovakia was not happy with the law, initially banning its nationals from having dual-citizenship.

Dr Árendás said: “The Fico [Slovakian] government threatens those who apply for Hungarian citizenship with losing their Slovak citizenship. However the Hungarian government is obviously not giving out the names of those who gained Hungarian citizenship, which means the Slovak state can’t track down these individuals.”

Miss Gostyńska said it had also fuelled tensions between Hungary and Romania, opening up the possibility that ethnic Hungarians in the Romanian region of Transylvania – fresh from being given dual citizenship – will seek some sort of autonomy.

Dr Árendás added: “Hungarian minority politicians always talk about cultural autonomy and never territorial. The surrounding nations like Slovakia or Romania would be obviously very sensitive about any mention of territorial subdivision, especially along ethnic lines.

“But even the mentioning of cultural autonomy causes lots of alert and fear in these host countries, so whenever such plans are presented, mostly in Romania, they are met with strong, and usually not positive, public reactions.”

The 2002 census revealed there were 1.4 million ethnic Hungarian living in Romania.

MEP Iuliu Winkler, an ethnic Hungarian from Transylvania, said: “One of the solutions for our aims is the enacting of various forms of autonomy, as they exist and function very well in several EU Member States. Another solution for preserving the identity and for facilitating the liaison with our kin-state is the granting of the double citizenship, by facilitating the recognition and re-establishment of the Hungarian citizenship. This is a constitutional solution also applied largely by the Romanian state in relation with the ethnic Romanians living outside the borders of Romania, for example in the Republic of Moldova.”
hungary’s new citizen growth, 2009-2014 | Create infographics



HAS THE NEW LAW TIGHTENED VIKTOR ORBAN’S GRIP ON POWER?

Miss Gostyńska says Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban has caused concern in Brussels by removing his opponents from all levels of administration and making the country look more towards the East than the liberal values in the West.

She added the new citizenship law had also helped to consolidate Orban’s grip on power, as shown by the 2014 parliamentary elections, which saw a victory for his party Fidesz, winning 44 per cent of the vote.

Dr Árendás said: “One more important point to the motivations of the Fidesz government to come up with this new citizenship law was the approaching 2014 elections. It was easily predictable that Fidesz can gain votes from ethnic Hungarians who freshly obtained citizenship thanks to Fidesz.”

A spokesman for Hungary’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade said: “Although 98% of Hungarians living beyond Hungary’s borders voted for the current government coalition, their votes altogether gave only one mandate, therefore it cannot be declared the victory of the Fidesz-KDNP alliance in the 2014 April elections was due to the votes of Hungarians living outside of Hungary”.
GAINING ACCESS TO THE EUROPEAN UNION

Hungary’s citizenship law has also opened up the European Union to more than 100,000 extra people.

There were 116,000 citizenships granted to people in Serbia and Ukraine between 2011 and 2014, countries not yet members of the EU.

The European Commission confirmed to Euronews the new citizens enjoyed the same EU rights as everyone else – such as the freedoms to move and reside within the union and vote and stand in elections – even though they live outside the community.

A spokeswoman for the EC did not suggest it was unhappy with the arrangement, underlining it was important there is a link between the person applying for the citizenship and the host country.

She added: “According to the European Commission’s information, the criteria applied under Hungarian law aims to ensure a genuine connection of these applicants to Hungary. Most of them were descendants of former Hungarian citizens who reside in other countries.”

WHAT DOES HUNGARY SAY?

Hungary’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade said in a statement: “Due to the introduction of the simplified naturalisation procedure, the process of the Hungarian nation’s reunification could begin after ninety years and those who wanted to belong to the community of the Hungarian nation under public law were given an opportunity to realise this.

“This law is not directed against anyone but serves the interests of those who want to belong to the Hungarian nation as Hungarian citizens.

“Passports are not automatically given to people who are Hungarian citizens. Hungarians who live outside Hungary and have applied for Hungarian citizenship are entitled to apply for a Hungarian passport as well.

“The practice of dual citizenship is accepted in the majority of neighbouring countries; moreover, it was the Romanian law which served as a model for the Hungarian government during the development of Hungary’s law on citizenship, therefore, the assumption that this law would intensify ethnic conflict in Romania can be rejected.

“Almost every member state of the European Union grants the right to vote for its citizens living abroad which is most frequently realised by means of voting by mail, thus, the Hungarian electoral process also followed this method.”

By Chris Harris

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This vindicates our IDEA of Imperium Europa.
An Imperium of Regions and Peoples - not of Nation States.
Regions will find themselves organically - Peoples will also seek their kind.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on April 13, 2015, 10:32:02 AM
Hungary’s Jobbik landmark win challenges Orban - 13/04/2015 09:21:27
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Hungary's far-right Jobbik narrowly won a by-election on Sunday and is set
to take on prime minister Viktor Orban’s ruling Fidesz as the largest
opposition force in the country.

https://euobserver.com/beyond-brussels/128293



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on April 13, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2015/04/13/hungary-far-right-jobbik-wins-first-individual-constituency-seat/


Hungary: Far-right Jobbik wins first individual constituency seat

Watch video clip.
Jobbik are our friends - we met their Leaders in Milan.
They know the Rodents in Human Form very, very well.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on April 29, 2015, 11:13:32 AM
https://euobserver.com/beyond-brussels/128513


MEPs challenge Orban's 'horrible' migration survey

 By Adam Halasz
Budapest, Today, 09:28

Liberal members of the European Parliament on Tuesday (April 28) urged the European Commission and fellow members states to verify that a public consultation on migration launched in Hungary complies with EU values and laws.

In a questionnaire to be sent out to 8 million citizens over 18 years of age, Hungarians are asked to answer 12 questions on whether “the mismanagement of the immigration question by Brussels may have something to do with increased terrorism”.

    According to official data, 1.4 percent of the 10-million population are foreigners in Hungary. The EU average is 4 percent. (Photo: Axel Buhrmann)

They are also asked if they would support the Hungarian government in detaining illegal migrants who “themselves should cover the costs” of staying in Hungary.

In a letter accompanying the survey, prime minister Viktor Orban writes: “Economic migrants cross our borders illegally, and while they present themselves as asylum-seekers, in fact they are coming to enjoy our welfare systems and the employment opportunities our countries have to offer”.

Orban adds: “We shall not allow economic migrants to jeopardise the jobs and livelihoods of Hungarians”.

“The questions are leading and manipulative,” said Dutch MEP Sophie In' t Veld in a statement, referring to the whole questionnaire as "horrible".

Cecilia Wikstrom, a Swedish liberal MEP, said it showed how Orban is distancing Hungary from Europe and “transforming Hungary into a mini-Russia".

The Hungarian government wants to be able to detain all those who cross borders illegally, something that is only allowed in exceptional cases under EU law.

It also wants to have migrants work to cover the costs of their accommodation or detention in Hungary.

Orban’s rightwing Fidesz government is keen to immediately deport migrants “who prove to have merely abused the European rules which encourage illegal migration,” spokesman Zoltan Kovacs told press last week.

Budapest says it needs the public consultation so Orban can stand up to the European Commission with the backing of the majority of Hungarians.

After last week’s emergency EU summit on migration, Orban called the EU's existing immigration regulations “stupid" and said that "immigration should be stopped”.

There has been a spike in the number of asylum seekers over the last few months in Hungary – part of Europe's visa-free Schengen zone – rising from a few thousand in 2012 to 43,000 in 2014, according to official data.

Almost all migrants travel onwards to Austria and Germany. Hungary’s stringent migration policy means only a few hundred get asylum annually.

According to official data, 1.4 percent of the 10-million population are foreigners in Hungary. The EU average is 4 percent.

Some suggest Orban, whose Fidesz party has seen a plunge in polls recently, is seeking to embrace issues championed by the far-right Jobbik party, the largest opposition force in Hungary.

Death penalty

Another issue where Orban has echoed Jobbik is on the reintroduction of the death penalty, forbidden in the 28 members of the EU.

He raised the matter on Tuesday after a deadly stabbing grabbed local headlines.

Orban told reporters in the southern city of Pecs that existing punishments for serious crimes were too soft.

"The death penalty question should be put on the agenda in Hungary," he said.

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Here is a Prime Minister who, in true democratic fashion is seeking the opinion of all his citizens.
Opinion about matters of vital interest to them: like immigration, asylum laws...
And the Liberals, the so called defenders of Freedom of Opinion, define such a move as horrible!

Liberals are the worst tyrants today - the most intolerant sector of our society.
You will find them as Newspaper Editors, columnists and opinion formers on TV and radio.
In Malta we have a notorious bunch of them - including decadent clergy.

PM Orban's initiative needs to be emulated everywhere within the EU.
In Malta too, considering our perilous, precarious position on the geopolitical map.
Let the People decide!


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: oebalus on May 02, 2015, 11:07:21 PM
Talk and more talk. They talk about deporting the invaders and arresting and reversing the invasion, it is mere twaddle. Action is conspicuously absent. The only movement that can carry out a comprehensive deportation and stopping the invasion tsunami is the  GD in Greece. It is one of the pivots of their manifesto and political  platform the expulsion of invaders. They will do as they say, That  is why they are not in power, persecuted, chased, and kept on the sidelines. The rest of , call it what you like ,they are of the same threadbare cloth, quasi  nationalists, rightist, new right etc, are just airbags full of gas. They will keep on talking and talking whilst the invasion armies keep on growing in numbers and strength.  It is time for action, we may be getting perilously close to a point of no return where the colonization of the continent is an accomplished fact.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 03, 2015, 10:16:58 AM
https://euobserver.com/justice/128941


Orban says migrants will change European civilisation



Hungarian leader Viktor Orban has warned that immigrants will alter “Europe’s civilisation”, amid ongoing EU debate on the Mediterranean crisis.

“A modern day mass migration is taking place around the world that could change the face of Europe's civilisation … if that happens, that’s irreversible”, he said in Budapest on Tuesday (2 June) according to the MTI news agency.

"There is no way back from a multicultural Europe. Neither to a Christian Europe, nor to a world of national cultures”, he added.

"If we make a mistake now, it will be forever”.

The remarks follow a series of provocative episodes.

In April, Orban's government drafted a popular questionnaire asking if “the mismanagement of the immigration question by Brussels may have something to do with increased terrorism”.

In January, in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris, he told Hungarian TV: “We don't want to see significantly sized minorities with different cultural characteristics and backgrounds among us. We want to keep Hungary as Hungary”.

The tough line is, in part, an attempt to win votes from the far-right Jobbik party at home.

It comes amid European Commission proposals for member states to relocate asylum seekers and to take in more refugees in a logarithm linked to national GDP.

Orban, on Tuesday, spoke at an event organised by the Konrad Adenauer Stiftung, a German foundation linked to the centre-right EPP group, which counts him as a member.

The same day in Brussels, at a meeting with leaders of secular and humanist societies, Frans Timmermans, the commissoner behind the migrant allocation proposal, defended the idea.

“We want to offer answers to the Mediterranean crisis, but you can’t offer answers … unless you have an asylum policy that works, and unless you have border control that works, and, of course, European solidarity”, he said.

He took note that several EU states - including France, Germany, and Poland, as well as Hungary - have criticised the relocation plan.

But he added: “If they have answers to these questions, I’d be more than glad to hear them. But I haven’t seen them yet. So far, I haven’t seen much that’s better than what we proposed”.

He also said, on the cultural issue, that “freedom or religion and freedom of conscience is a pillar of our society”.

Pierre Galand, the head of the European Humanist Federation, a Brussels-based NGO, noted that “diversity can enrich” European society.

He paid heed to concerns over Islamic radicalisation.

But he added: “We in Europe have lost sight of the historical fact that we’re all migrants, since the very beginning of our continent”.


For his part, Antonio Tajani, a European Parliament vice-president from Italy and a former commissioner, said “Europe should become a space for dialogue among religions and cultures”.

He also urged European Muslims to become “ambassadors for tolerance” in Islamic countries in north Africa and the Middle East.


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Orban is right of course - and he very well knows who is behind this Murder of a Race.
But he dare not mention the Rodents in Human Form - yet.
This is all a planned Jewish onslaught on the White Race - the Rodents are implacable in their Hate.

And of course the Educated Idiots: those "Humanists" view all this as an "enrichment".
Just as those White Liberal youths in SA, shrieking for the end to Apartheid - do you remember them?
And they got their Black Majority Rule and their Joys of MultiCulturalism.

And these Humanists and other NGOs, will one day beg us on their knees to save them from "Black Culture" -
from robberies and rape and murder and arson and all the Joys that the Black sub-human displays, wherever he is:
be it Detroit or Baltimore or Watts, or Paris, London, Wolverhampton, Genoa - where the Black sets foot and downgrades.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 17, 2015, 05:28:41 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2015/06/17/unhcr-starts-poster-campaign-in-hungary-to-counter-government-anti-migrant/


UNHCR starts poster campaign in Hungary to counter government anti-migrant initiative

UNHCR the spearhead of the Jews in their attack on every White Country.
Working ceaselessly, these Traitors want to break the Racial Spine of our Peoples.
They will be mercilessly hunted down and exterminated in our Imperium.



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http://www.euronews.com/2015/06/17/hungary-to-close-serbian-border-with-anti-migrant-fence/


Hungary to close Serbian border with anti-migrant fence

And the reply of a serious Hungarian Govt is resolute action.
Stopping the Illegals with every means possible - the Country's safety and security come first.
In Malta, we send our boys 100 miles out to scoop up the African primitives.


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 20, 2015, 10:35:30 AM
https://euobserver.com/opinion/129208


Don't fence me in

Good fences make good neighbours, they say.

But Hungary’s plan to seal off its border with Serbia by building a 175km-long wall, revealed on Wednesday (17 June), is a step in the opposite direction.

The idea did not play well in Brussels, where Natasha Bertaud, speaking for the European Commission, was quick to point out the EC does not encourage such projects. “We have only recently taken down walls in Europe; we should not be putting them up”, she told journalists on Thursday.

Criticism also came from Strasbourg and Geneva. Nils Muizniaks, the Council of Europe’s commisioner for human rights called the plan “ill-advised”. The UNHCR, the UN’s chief refugee agency, also voiced concern.

Unsurprisingly, Belgrade was even less amused.

Serbian prime minister Aleksandar Vucic said he’s “shocked and surprised”. He announced he’ll try to persuade Viktor Orban, his Hungarian counterpart, to reverse the decision. “We don’t want to live in Auschwitz”, he said.

Hungarians retorted the wall isn’t meant to keep out Serbs, but illegal migrants, mostly Syrians and Kosovo Albanians, some 50,000 of which crossed over the “green border” with Hungary this year. “We’re not closing the border passes. Serbian citizens with valid passports are still welcome ”, Hungarian MEP Andor Deli (EPP) told Serbian TV.

It didn’t help much.

Although Vucic’s reference to Auschwitz may seem over the top, Serbs have good reasons to be sensitive about freedom of movement.

During the civil war in former Yugoslavia in the 1990s, Serbia was subject to UN sanctions, and obtaining a visa for Western European countries was next to impossible for most of its citizens.

This situation didn’t change even after 2000, when president Slobodan Milosevic was toppled and replaced by a pro-Western government: the Schengen rules applied. Serbian citizens had to go through lengthy, expensive, and humiliating visa application processes, which often ended in rejection.

In 2008, the EU relaxed the visa regime for Serbia and other Western Balkan states. But for many, the memory of feeling trapped in one’s own country is still fresh.

Even with the border posts open, the four-metre high wall will have a profound psychological effect.
Paradox

Paradoxically, Hungary announced its plan at a time when Hungary-Serbia relations, after years of bickering about the status of the Hungarian minority in Serbia, just took a turn for the better.

Not only does Vucic boast close personal ties with Orban, the two governments recently agreed on periodical joint cabinet meetings. The next session, scheduled for 1 July, is likely to take place in an icy atmosphere.

Another paradox, which Vucic was quick to point out, is that most immigrants enter Serbia through Greece, Bulgaria, or Macedonia, two of which are EU member states.

He said that Serbia does not intend to build its own wall on the Macedonian or Bulgarian border. But the pressure to stop the flow of refugees through Serbia is mounting, both from inside and outside the country.

There are also reasons to be wary of what might happen if the wall is erected, and it does serve its purpose (most experts believe it will not).

The migrants would likely turn to the nearest green border, the one Serbia shares with Croatia. If the Croats decide to follow Hungary’s example, Serbia would find itself surrounded by razor wire.

This would also have a devastating effect on Serbo-Croatian relations, already stretched thin because, among other issues, of a border dispute over a stretch of land along the Danube river.

Bosnia-Herzegovina, which is squeezed between Serbia and Croatia, would be first to suffer consequences.
Fortress

As the commission’s Bertaud explained, the EU does not have legal ways to prevent Hungary, or any other member state, to regulate borders with non-members as it sees fit.

Bulgaria is also building a wall on its border with Turkey. Greece has had one for some time.

If the EU allows this worrying trend to continue, it risks not only destabilising the Western Balkans, but also making the grim metaphor of “Fortress Europe” a starkly visible reality.

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The continuing vindication of our Vision of: Europa delle Regioni e dei Popoli.
We of Imperium Europa are always, decades ahead of everyone else.
Our Nova Europa would leave each Region, completely free to tackle this Illegal Immigration problem.

Free to arrest and line up against a wall Traitorous Clergy, NGOs and other rats, working on behalf of The Hidden Enemy.
Free to break batons on Black coconut heads, free to imprison and starve them, shoot them on the spot for the least infringement of any law.
The Regions would be free to do as they please to protect their White ethnicity.

And very soon, as the terrorized Blacks scramble from one Region to the next -
We will clean up the whole of Europe, before you can say Metsola il-Pecluqa!
We are the only ones, who can save Europe from Schultz and his Tribe of Rodents in Human Form.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 20, 2015, 10:46:35 AM
https://euobserver.com/institutional/129209


Orban: EU needs 'strong' leaders, not institutions



Viktor Orban, the Hungarian PM, has said only “strong” leaders, not institutions, can create stability in Europe.

Speaking at Globsec, a security event in Bratislava, on Friday (19 June), he said: “We were educated, over the past one or two decades, that leadership means institutions … that the job of a leader is to manage the work of institutions”.

“But when you’re in trouble … you need personal leadership, and personal leadership isn’t respected in Europe. It’s rather considered as a danger”.

He added that Europe’s big challenges - the Greece crisis, migration, Russia - need “strong leadership, even a personal one, and this leadership should be stable. Stability of leadership is the key to financial stability in Europe in future”.

His remarks come amid increasing EU concern over his authoritarian style.

In five years in power, he has extended political control over Hungarian courts, clamped down on NGOs, and tried to gag free media.

He has also voiced disregard for EU institutions and laws.

He recently told the European Parliament and the centre-right EPP group that EU treaties shouldn’t stop him from imposing the death penalty.

His rejection of European Commission ideas on migrants is linked to his views on leadership.

Hungary, the Czech Republic, Poland, and Slovakia, in the margins of Globsec, signed a memo saying No to Commission proposals on asylum-seeker quotas.

They said one reason is because the Commission went against EU leaders, who decided, in April, on a voluntary scheme.

Meanwhile, Orban made light of Commission criticism of his anti-migrant fence.

He said national leaders, not EU institutions, are responsible for borders.

“Borders must be secure. They must be defended by the state. Full stop”, he noted.

“You can’t wait for a European solution
… maybe they [EU institutions] will send you some money one day, maybe not. I don’t believe in a European solution”.

He added that foreigners are a threat to Hungary's identity.

“Big countries don’t understand us because they don’t have this feeling of danger. If you have 60 or 80 million people, instead of 10 million, there’s no danger, but for us it [migration] means there’s no more Hungarian world”, he said.

“We have a situation in which we’re saying: ‘Would the last Hungarian please switch off the light’.”

Referring to his country's ageing population, he said he wants a “biological” solution - for Hungarian couples to “have more kids” -- instead of migrant workers.

He defended his own record by noting the Hungarian economy grew more than three percent last year.

He said he did it by cutting welfare, but also by relaxing taxes, such as corporate tax and inheritance tax.

He said his model is “not a very 'fair' society - it’s a work-based society”.

“It’s hard to define. People ask: ‘What the hell is it?’ ... It’s like pornography. No one can define it, but everybody knows it when they see it”.


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Excellent!
How good to hear the voice of sanity in this Jewish led, insane Europe.
Hungary is blessed to have such Leadership.

In Malta we have Gonzi, Xmun, il-Pecluqa u issa, is-Socialista Squallidu!
Dak li ghalieh, issa:
"Push Back was a mistake".
Tista tkun abjet iktar min hekk?

Malta lost its chance to meet its Destiny, at the last MEP Elections.
Our poor People, a low-quality People, kept down at the lowest levels through a poor, Arabic language, poor leadership and a Corrupt, Catholic Church.
A People entertained by the Gaffarenas, 2cents petrol and what not - Ja Munglu!



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 24, 2015, 08:16:03 AM
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20150624/world/hungary-defies-eu-over-migrants-as-crisis-mounts.573788


 Wednesday, June 24, 2015, 06:43 by PA

Hungary defies EU over migrants as crisis mounts

In a challenge to European leaders before a summit that aims to tackle a refugee crisis, Hungary unilaterally suspended an EU asylum programme, saying it was overburdened by illegal migrants.

As Italy said its ships had rescued 3,700 migrants at sea since Monday and Libyans threatened military action against EU moves to curb human trafficking, Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban's government demonstrated Budapest's frustration with proposals to spread asylum seekers around the continent by refusing to take any more migrants sent there under EU regulations.

With EU leaders due to debate a new scheme tomorrow to relocate Mediterranean migrants landing in Italy and Greece, the European Commission demanded an immediate explanation after Hungary stopped accepting foreigners returned there from other EU states for their asylum requests to be handled by Budapest.

The move, made by a government already at odds with Brussels over civil rights, was seen as a challenge to the Dublin Regulations which state that asylum claims be handled in the EU country where migrants first arrive or first request protection.

The issue has this month sparked a row between founder EU members Italy and France after Paris began stopping suspected illegal migrants at their normally open border.

Hungarian officials have said an EU plan to relieve the strain on Italy and Greece fails to recognise their own problem with some 60,000 migrants who have crossed Hungary's EU land borders, mostly from non-EU Serbia. Orban has said a Commission proposal to force states to take a quota "borders on insanity."

A government spokesman said yesterday: "Hungary's asylum system is overburdened, the most overburdened among EU member states affected by illegal immigration."...

The Hungarian government said in a statement: "Hungary has used up the capacities at its disposal."

"The situation requires fast action; in this escalated situation Hungary needs to take a move ahead of EU decisions," it said.

Hungary last week announced plans to build a fence along its border with Serbia to stem the flow of migrants from the Middle East and Africa who enter Europe through the Balkans. Most eventually move on to wealthier Western Europe.

Meanwhile, neighbouring Austria said it was pushing to resolve the latest problem with Hungary.

But the 28 member states of the EU, whose leaders will meet in Brussels tomorrow and on Friday, are divided on a plan from the EU executive to oblige them to take a share of 24,000 Syrians and Eritreans now in Italy and 16,000 from Greece. Diplomats say they may compromise by accepting such numbers on a voluntary basis.

With voters increasingly hostile to immigration as the bloc continues to struggle with economic malaise that has pushed Greece to the point of bankruptcy, the Dublin system dating from the 1990s is widely viewed as deeply flawed.

There is little consensus on how to address the problem in the short term, but longer-term responses - such as boosting aid, discouraging economic migrants in Africa and accelerating the return of failed asylum seekers - are on the summit agenda.

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How blessed Hungary is to have such Leadership.
And Malta sends our boys to scoop up the Black savages a 100 miles away!
Malta and Italy accept these Illegal Immigrants that are "saved" just 20 miles off the Libyan coast.

As for leadership, or the lack of it, our Squallid Socialist Prime Minister stated: "Push Back was a mistake."
And Malta voted for a gaggle of 5 women who are making fools of themselves in Brussels, pleading for "Burden Sharing".
Confusion reigns supreme, both in Brussels and in Malta.

Only Imperium Europa can save the White Race, Europe and our Civilisation from this Black Plague.
Put that tiny Tribe of Rodents firmly in their place - for they are the Cause of all this.
An Imperium of Regions and Peoples - for Europids only.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on July 07, 2015, 09:42:15 AM
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/world/54828/hungarian_parliament_approves_antimigrant_law_construction_of_border_fence#.VZuA7bV1xyy


Hungarian parliament approves anti-migrant law, construction of border fence

The new legislation was passed easily in a 151-41 vote on Monday, with the backing of the governing Fidesz party and the far-right Jobbik party.


Hungary's parliament has passed new legislation tightening asylum rules, and backed plans to erect a border fence to keep out migrants.

The new law allows the detention of migrants in temporary camps, speeding up of the asylum application review process and limiting the possibility for appeal.

Hungary has seen a rise in the number of migrants and asylum seekers in 2015- the government says about 54,000 migrants have entered the country so far this year, compared with 43,000 people in 2014.

The new legislation was passed easily in a 151-41 vote on Monday, with the backing of the governing Fidesz party and the far-right Jobbik party.

"Hungary is confronted with the biggest surge of migrants in its history, its capacities are overloaded by 130%," Interior Minister Sandor Pinter was quoted as saying by the AFP news agency before the vote.

Government spokesman Zoltan Kovacs told the BBC that from now on the Hungarian authorities would regard Serbia, Macedonia, Bulgaria and Greece as "safe" countries. In practice this means that almost all asylum seekers who reach Hungary - a landlocked country - overland will be rejected.

He adds that most will not even get a chance to apply, because they would be stopped by the border fence, construction of which is expected to begin immediately.

The wall would run the length of the 175km border with Serbia.

The UN and human rights groups have criticised Hungary's immigration proposals. The regional representative of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees warned that the legislation would have devastating implications for thousands of people seeking safety in Hungary.

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What splendid news!
A serious Govt that thinks of its Nationhood first and foremost.
A Govt stiffened by our friends, Jobbic - who know the Rodents in Human Form very, very well.

And in the coming Imperium, an Electronic Fence will seal all White Territories.
Not even a lizard would be able to crawl in, without being micro-waved - let alone a Trousered Ape.
An Imperium for Europids only - and none else!


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: oebalus on July 23, 2015, 07:46:53 AM
Hungary' govt. may built a fence. We hope it won't be a bamboo shoot fence like Frontex built in the Evro. The problem still remains with those that are already inside the country. Markell has given a Diktat to the Hungarians, you shall not deport them.  How soon will they finish these walls they talk about ?  The should not bother with walls. Any illegal found should be deported to whence it arrived, summarily deportation. The reflux would be flung back to turkey. The route of the invasion emanates in turkey, from there to Greece, to Bulgaria and the rest of the Balkans and Mittle Europa.. Kill the monster at source. Kill the Turkish launch pads. Alternately, the Hungarians should ship of these stragglers onto Merkels Germany. The politicians will not, can not solve and bring to a close the immigration canker. Politicians and political parties are the very components of the entropy in politics. Democracy, judeocracy, are the viper's nest of the present tyranny. Our civilization is at the cross roads. To arrest and reverse the trend one has to begin with the instauration of sovereignty of the nations in the continent, ( before they become just points of details of history) and by extension the continent itself. The instauration of sovereignty can begin when the occupying forces ( America-juden) are removed from every corner of the European land mass, and sent packing home.  We are nearing to a century of occupation by these forces. No outside force or power should have the right to interfere in solely European matters. 
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on July 25, 2015, 02:43:42 PM
http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2015-07-25/world-news/Hungary-Prime-Minister-Orban-says-illegal-immigration-threatens-Europe-6736139458


Hungary Prime Minister Orban says illegal immigration threatens Europe


Illegal immigration is a threat to Hungary and all of Europe, with the biggest risk coming from hundreds of millions of people from the "depths of Africa" looking to escape poverty, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said Saturday.

Over 90,000 migrants and refugees have reached Hungary so far this year and it is building a 4-meter (13-foot) high fence on its border with Serbia to stem the flow. While the government had set a Nov. 30 deadline, Orban said the fence would be completed by Aug. 31.

Speaking at a cultural festival in Baile Tusnad, Romania, Orban accused the European Union of failing to defend its citizens from the "masses of illegal immigrants," who he said threatened the cultural identity of European countries and contributed to increased terrorism, unemployment and criminality.

"For us, today Europe is at stake," Orban said. "The survival, disappearance or, more precisely, the transformation beyond recognition of the European citizen's lifestyle, European values and the European nations."

"The question now is not only what kind of Europe we Hungarians would like to live in," Orban said. "Rather, will all that we now call Europe exist at all?"

"It is clear that we can't filter out the hostile terrorists in the huge crowds," Orban said, adding that there had been a "drastic increase" in crime where illegal migrants lived.

"We would like for Europe to keep belonging to the Europeans," Orban said. "We want to preserve the Hungarian Hungary."

Most refugees who request asylum in Hungary quickly leave for other destinations in the EU like Germany or Sweden before their cases are settled. Orban has repeatedly said that Hungary does not want any migrants from outside Europe and has been granting asylum to just a few hundred annually in the past several years.

"The really serious threats are arriving not from the war zones ... but from the depths of Africa," Orban said. "Northern Africa today can no longer defend Europe from the immense masses of people."

Orban spoke to mostly young supporters at the same cultural festival where a year ago he outlined plans to convert Hungary into an "illiberal state" such as Russia, China and Singapore. That idea, as well as his accusations that civic groups critical of his government were working for foreign interests, drew widespread criticism, including from President Barack Obama.

This time, Orban lashed out mainly against the EU leadership in Brussels and left-wing ideology, accusing them of willfully supporting immigration to weaken Europe's nations and their unique cultures.

"The European left sees the problem of immigration not as a source of danger but as an opportunity," Orban said. "They believe ... that the escalation of immigration can extremely weaken or even eliminate the national structures."

Orban is in his third term as prime minister. He first led Hungary between 1998 and 2002, returning with a landslide majority in 2010 after Socialist-led governments were unable to solve the country's growing economic problems.

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One cannot find fault with Orban - He speaks exactly as We do.
Of course his partners, Jobbik are our friends and know The Rodents in Human Form, very well.
With such groups, We of IE could have saved Europe and the White Race from Brussels.

Orban is right - it is the Black African, primitive and savage and with a low IQ, who is our greatest genetic threat.
And that is why the Jews portray Blacks as heroes, glamorise the apes, so our women breed with them.
This is simply the death of the White Race.

We of Imperium Europa will boot out every single Black from our coming Imperium.
With them will go those white women who betrayed their Race - along with their mixed offspring.
We will again introduce the Laws of Manu.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 03, 2015, 04:02:04 PM
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20150903/world/dont-come-to-fearful-europe-hungarys-pm-tells-migrants.583027

 Thursday, September 3, 2015, 12:42 by Alastair Macdonald, Reuters

Don't come to 'fearful' Europe, Hungary's PM tells migrants



 
Refugees should not risk their children's lives trying to reach Europe, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said today as he defended his tough approach to border control to senior EU officials in Brussels.

Saying "people in Europe are full of fear" due to leaders' failure to agree on how to deal with the migration crisis, Mr Orban again rejected an EU proposal to share out quotas of refugees among states and insisted Hungary would apply EU rules on registering any asylum-seekers who made it past its new frontier fence before it would let them continue journeys to Germany.

"We Hungarians are full of fear, people in Europe are full of fear because they see that the European leaders ... are not able to control the situation," Mr Orban said after meeting European Parliament President Martin Schulz, as hundreds of migrants pushed onto trains in Budapest hoping to head west.

In a pugnacious performance typical of a right-wing leader who has often clashed with liberal sentiment in Brussels, Mr Orban rejected criticism of the razor-wire fence he has thrown up along the EU's external frontier with Serbia.

Asked about an image of a drowned Syrian child on a Turkish beach which has grabbed media attention across Europe this week, he said this was not a moral argument for opening Europe's doors but rather highlighted why families should not take to the sea.

"If we would create... an impression 'just come because we are ready to accept everybody', that would be a moral failure. The moral, human thing is to make clear: Please don't come," Orban said.

"Turkey is a safe country. Stay there. It's risky to come. It's better for the family, for the kids, for yourself to stay."

MR Orban said his government was determined to apply EU rules on preventing people from crossing the bloc's external border outside of controlled checkpoints and to register and identify all those who arrived to claim asylum.

Saying that Hungarians feared that a failure on their part to control migrants would cause their EU neighbours to reimpose their own border checks on Hungary, he warned that the bloc's Schengen system of open internal frontiers could be at risk.

"Hungary did everything to fulfil regulations," Mr Orban said. "Don't criticise Hungary for doing what is compulsory. And instead of criticising us, just let us Hungary do the job as it is written in the European regulations."

On Hungary's handling of thousands of people in Budapest who are trying to reach Germany where Chancellor Angela Merkel has said all Syrians will be taken in, he said: "The problem is not a European problem. The problem is a German problem.


"Nobody would like to stay in Hungary ... So if the German chancellor insists that nobody can leave Hungary without registration towards Germany, we will register them.

"What is going on is a shame. It's chaotic, it's not European," he added. "It's not a way to come through the green border, going to the railway station, shouting the name of Germany and Chancellor Merkel and forcing the Hungarian police to let them go out of the country without registration."

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Schultz and his Tribe of Rodents in Human Form, use Christian Cretinism as a poniard at our throat.
They shove a picture of a dead toddler on the beach, as an argument to open the floodgates!
It was his parent's fault that he ended up swallowing a portion of the Mediterranean.

Orban and his partners, Jobbik are doing a great job, defending all of Europe.
Imagine if We, of Imperium Europa, had been elected to Brussels at the last MEP Election and formed Nova Europa with them and others.
We would not have needed the Jew, Geert Wilders and the unfit, Jewish lackey, Marine Le Pen - they are both Judas goats misleading the Right.

Imma il-Gahan Malti ma ridtx "jahli il vot" - allura ivvota lil hames pastizzi!


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 03, 2015, 08:58:28 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/03/czech-police-handing-of-migrants-reminiscent-of-nazi-concentration-camps/


Handling of migrants ‘reminiscent of Nazi concentration camps’

Human rights groups have criticised Czech police for the manner in which they processed migrants.

Officers used marker pens to write on the arms of 214 refugees after they were detained at a border crossing from Austria and Hungary.

The move reminded some of the way Nazis wrote numbers on concentration camp prisoners. ...


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It's the JEWS, stupid!


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 10, 2015, 09:18:15 AM
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20150910/world/Hungary-s-migrant-transit-zones-to-be-closed-off.583840


 Thursday, September 10, 2015, 00:01 by Reuters

Hungary’s migrant transit zones to be closed off

Hungary’s planned new transit zones near the Serbian border will be closed off from the rest of Hungary but migrants whose asylum requests are rejected will be returned to Serbia, a senior Hungarian ruling Fidesz party lawmaker said.

Gergely Gulyas reiterated that there was no point in talking about migrant quotas until mass immigration was stopped.


Hungary is one of four central European countries that have been resisting pressure to accept mandatory quotas to redistribute thousands of migrants flooding into Europe to flee war and poverty in the Middle East, Africa and Asia.

When asked if the new transit zones on the Serbian border would be similar to police detention centres Gulyas said: “They won’t be similar, so these zones will not be closed towards Serbia, we do not want to prevent in any way those who have come from there to return there. Towards Hungary, of course, they will be closed.”
Refugees cannot choose the country they wish to live in


He said the zones will be in Hungary so Hungary would provide medical and other care as needed.

Gulyas said even those who are fleeing persecution and are eligible for refugee status cannot choose the country they wish to live in.

“With respect to the refugee status, it should be clarified...that for even those persons who are really exposed to political persecution, eligibility for refugee status does not mean a free choice of country,” he said. He said it should be made clear that these migrants are eligible for refugee status in the first safe country they enter and from this respect Turkey, Greece, Albania, Macedonia and Serbia as well as Hungary would count as safe countries.

“This shows that a big majority of migrants are arriving only in the hope of a better life, which is humanly understandable but it poses a threat to the whole of Europe,” he added.

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Metsola il Pecluqa and the other hames pastizzi should shed their Christian Cretinism, their feminine politics -
and learn common sense from Hungary, and the growing awareness from reasonable Europeans, about the fate of their continent, country and children.
But it is too much to expect common sense from a bunch of brainwashed, Liberals, with their underlying Jesus Poison.

For the ideology of Liberalism is nothing but displaced Religious dogma -
The Jesus Poison that over 2,000 years has enfeebled us, and is about to destroy us as a Race.
The Rodents in Human Form wield the Jesus Poison poniard at our throat.

We of Imperium Europa are determined to extirpate both tumors from The White Race.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 13, 2015, 09:01:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTlCyZa-Xjo


‘Period of tolerance for illegal migrants ends’ – top Hungarian politician


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The sanity and common sense of Racial Survival of the Hungarians, the Slovaks...
as against the stupidity of our Pecluqa and her companions in Brussels.
Sept. 2015 - The Start of The White Man's Vengeance!



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 19, 2015, 10:17:47 AM
Croatia puts migrants on buses to Hungary - 18/09/2015 18:56:34
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Croatia started ferrying refugees to Hungary by bus on Friday, saying it
can't cope any more, while also suspending EU rules on registration of
newcomers.

https://euobserver.com/beyond-brussels/130329


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Viva il Berdin Xerink!
Min mghandux, jghix ma min ghandu -
u min ma jridx: jiehdu f-ghoxx min ghandu!

VIVA IL PECLUQA!



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 21, 2015, 06:54:21 PM
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20150921/world/hungary-to-use-army-in-migration-crisis.585297


 Monday, September 21, 2015, 16:40

Hungary to use army in migration crisis

Hungary's parliament has passed a law to authorise the government to deploy the army to help handle a migrant crisis which would include powers to use non-lethal force.

The law stipulates the use of the army, which would be allowed to use rubber bullets, pyrotechnical devices, tear gas grenades or net guns, according to the text posted on Parliament's website.

The radical nationalist Jobbik party, which has advocated even tougher measures, supported Orban's centre-right Fidesz party in the vote, which passed with 151 votes to 12 against and 27 abstentions in the 199-member Parliament

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Jobbik gives the Hungarian Govt the hard clout it needs.
Jobbik knows the Hidden Enemy very, very well.
Jobbik knows The Rodents in Human Form.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 30, 2015, 09:44:56 AM
http://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2015-09-30/world-news/Hungary-to-propose-world-quotas-for-migrants-flooding-Europe-6736142844


Hungary to propose world quotas for migrants flooding Europe

Suggesting that countries responsible for the Mideast's turmoil should help shoulder its fallout, Hungary's foreign minister on Tuesday proposed a global quota system for migrants now flooding Europe and will lobby for it at an upcoming meeting of ministers on the sidelines of the U.N. summit.

Hungary itself is being criticized by other European Union countries for opposing country quotas within the EU. But Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said globally dividing up those fleeing the world's conflict regions made sense, particularly in drawing in those he said were at least partially to blame for the turmoil.

People are fleeing from "countries that became unstable because international political decisions ... made not only by Europe but other big players," he said. "At least part of the burden should be taken away from Europe."

Szijjarto's comments appeared to allude at least in part to the United States, suggesting that its Middle East policies created the conductions for the rise of Islamic extremism sweeping parts of that region and North Africa.

He said the Hungarian proposal will be submitted to a meeting Wednesday of government ministers on refugees and migration hosted by U.N. Secretary General Ban ki-Moon.

Szijjarto also said that Hungary was opposed less to an EU-wide distribution of migrants and more to the sequencing of how to deal with the influx.

The first priority, he said should be to securing the European Union's external borders. For that, said Szijjato, a "joint European force" should be assembled in Greece, the entry point for most of the migrants. Beyond contributing personnel, the project should be jointly funded by all EU nations, said Szijjarto.

Other unified EU initiatives should include dedicated funding to Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan to help them take care of the millions of refugees they are hosting, said Szijjarto. He said that would result in keeping those who fled close to their homes and make their repatriation simpler whenever conditions allow.

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Bad. Very bad. Madness actually.
Global Burden Sharing would never, ever work - besides it's impractical and un-achievable.
These "migrants", actually savage illegal invaders, are not Europe's problem.

They should simply be mercilessly booted out, anywhere, on the high seas, wherever.
Sealing Europe's external borders is now a priority - We said this decades ago.
A United Europe with sealed borders - a Europe for Europids only: and none else!


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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 04, 2015, 08:06:27 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2015/10/03/migrant-crisis-hungary-poised-to-shut-unofficial-border-crossings-with-croatia/


Migrant crisis: Hungary poised to shut unofficial border crossings with Croatia

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"Prime Minister Viktor Orban says the influx threatens to undermine the continent’s Christian roots."


This is the problem with us Europids - this abject Semitic religion, this Jesus Poison.
Orban should have ignored this nonsense and instead said:
the influx threatens to undermine the continent’s Ethnic roots.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 08, 2015, 03:28:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omqfAX5bcf4&feature=em-share_video_user


First, we seal our outside borders, stopping the invasion.
Second, we mercilessly boot out All non Europids within.
Third, we hunt down the Traitors.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 18, 2015, 06:22:46 PM
http://www.euronews.com/2015/10/18/slovenia-takes-the-strain-of-europe-s-migrant-influx/


Slovenia takes the strain of Europe’s migrant influx

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Hungary battens down the hatches - takes care of its own.
Croatia follows suit - and Slovenia will be forced to follow.
Slowly slowly, Europe will deprive the aliens of all the chessboard safe squares.

In our coming Imperium, the Regions will be free to adopt any measures they like to stem the flow, clean up the stables.
Shooting on sight, dumping into concentration camps and left to freeze and starve.
Till they beg to be booted back to their cesspit countries.

But we have to neutralize the two most lethal enemies that prevent us from defending ourselves:
The Rodents in Human Form and the Jesus Poison.
We of Imperium Europa are determined to extirpate both.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: oebalus on November 01, 2015, 04:37:59 PM
they seem to be building walls around the frontiers, to arrest the invasion. In spite of all the feverish construction of walls in progress, the invasion waves keep on marching and getting through these fictional " barriers" .The invasion is open ended. Consequences of 70 year occupation of the continent by the victors of WW2.  The invasion will not stop until the occupiers are thrown out of Europe.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on November 17, 2015, 04:03:17 PM
https://www.facebook.com/orbanviktor/videos/10153686452526093/


Europe has been attacked.

 Great speech by Orban Viktor who is proving himself to be a statesman.
Unlike the worms of the Renzi and Joey types - lackeys of the Rodents in Human Form.
And now that Europe has been attacked and will continue to be under attack:

There is one, only one solution to the problem:

IMPERIUM EUROPA!



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on March 08, 2016, 10:22:43 AM
https://euobserver.com/tickers/132575

Hungary's Orban scorns refugee resettlement idea
By EUOBSERVER

7. MAR, 13:02

Resettling refugees directly from Turkey to Europe would be like putting “oil on a fire”, Hungary’s PM Viktor Orban has said. "More people would come as a result of the resettlement," Orban said as he arrived at the EU summit, adding that Hungary would not participate in any resettlement scheme.

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That is the stuff of Statesmen, of real Politicians - as against the Metsola il-Pecluqa types.
The worms, those Democratic worms: Squallid Socialists and Christian Hypocrites - both imbued with The Jesus Poison.
Soon, our Europe will become Our Nova Europa - e saremo spietati con tutti i traditori.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on March 20, 2016, 08:59:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbINrdyAXlE


Orban's historic speech puts Hungary on war footing


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A great speech by a Great Man.
Why a great speech?
Because it is the simple Truth.

And today Orban is the Hero of the European Peoples.
He towers above the minions, the Squallid Socialists and the Christian Hypocrites of the Renzi and Merkel types.
Products of 70 years of Jewish subversion and the tyranny of Liberalism, which is nothing more than the political sublimation of The Jesus Poison.

And to think that our PM could have been the first in this Heroic role, when he was about to Push Back those trousered apes to Libya.
But he cowered and peed in his pants, believing the Rodent Schultz - and our PM missed his chance.
His chance to achieve Greatness, statesmanship - and he is now a nonentity, a worm like most of the rest.

Of course Orban and most Hungarians, know the Jews very well.
They know that this massive Invasion is their planning, their pushing, their ultimate goal to destroy us, Whites.
It's the Hidden Enemy - It's the Jews, stupid!



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on June 04, 2016, 06:30:26 PM
http://www.politico.eu/article/hungarys-far-right-jobbik-leader-gabor-vonasays-leaving-eu-no-longer-on-the-agenda/


Hungary’s far-right Jobbik says leaving EU no longer on the agenda
Surge in populist support ‘an opportunity to transform the EU’, party leader says.
By   CYNTHIA KROET 6/3/16, 2:40 PM CET
Hungary’s far-right Jobbik party reversed its position on Europe and no longer wants the country to leave the EU, its leader said Thursday.

“The EU will change over the next five to 10 years and for the first time it may be for the better,” Gábor Vona wrote on Facebook.



He told Inforadio that “leaving the EU is no longer on the agenda,” because he believes the migration crisis offers populist parties a chance to “transform” the EU.

“Let’s look at the issue of migration, for example: it’s a serious challenge for the EU, which proves that certain mechanisms currently in place need to be changed,” Vona said.


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Exactly!
What We of Imperium Europa have been saying for years.
Not leave the EU, but change it into Nova Europa.

Change it into a Europe of Free Regions and Peoples.
Evolving into the Greatest Imperium the world has ever seen.
All this: by 2032.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: oebalus on June 05, 2016, 02:44:07 AM
5 to 10  years ? It is 5 minutes past midnight. For any realistic hopes of the EU surviving , whilst the flow of tons of  invaders continues and grows in volume is  a sine qua non.  The jobbik outfit , and Gabor Wona, are a contradiction in credo. The party proclaims it is rooted in turkism, Islamist. They want a stop the alien invasion but have no qualms against Turkic immigration. Gabor's grouping prides itself of their "osmanian" roots ? Which is an aberration in itself. The best supporter the Turks have for their admission into the EU are Gabor's political grouping. The Eu can not be changed, nor saved  , from its current ideological configuration from within. The establishment needs to be overthrown, it's elites and functioning organs replaced and start over again. Individual states or nations trapped in it are paying a deadly price for their membership. The nations captive inside are being transformed beyond recognition. Native races are becoming minorities in their own habitats. The Eu edifice requires demolition and after that reconstruction. The tons and tons of invaders, neo colonizers,  are being encrusted in the fabric of European biological body and soul. What is the EU landscape going to look like in 5 or 10 years hence ? The invasion expands exponentially, physically and spiritually, disfiguring European biology  into something  yet to be discerned.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on July 24, 2016, 09:54:03 AM
https://www.rt.com/news/352939-orban-eu-security-test-failed/


EU reduced to weak regional player unable to defend itself – Hungary’s Orban

The deadly shooting rampage in Europe’s leading nation, Germany, is a sign that Britain’s exit from the EU has reduced the bloc to a weak regional player unable to achieve any goals or protect its citizens, Hungary’s prime minister Viktor Orban said.

Eurozone crisis
“Never before in my whole life I was as discouraged as after as the attack in Munich,” in which a lone gunman killed 9 people and injured 27 others on Friday, Orban said, according to Agerpres news agency.

READ MORE: Hungary sets date for referendum on EU migrant quotas, PM favors ‘no’ vote

“In the last 30 or 40 years, we perceived the Germans as the guarantors of our democracy,” Orban said. “But you see that the same thing that happened yesterday, a few days ago took place in Nice. It’s now closing on us all, but even more serious is that this attack happened in Germany – the country which we consider to be our fulcrum. And this means that even in that country there’s no absolute guarantee [of security] anymore.”

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Police sign blocks the entrance to Odeon square following shootings at a shopping mall earlier on July 22, 2016 in Munich © Sven Hoppe Munich shooting not connected to refugees or ISIS, was inspired by Breivik - Bavaria police
The time has come to give up on the “idealization of Europe” and the “false self-esteem” because after Brexit the EU has lost its global role, the Hungarian PM said in a speech at a student summer camp at the Romanian town of Baile Tusnad on Saturday.

“Europe… is a regional player, who can’t protect its borders and citizens as well as keep the people together,” he said.

The “weakened” EU is also unable to counter the refugee influx, which is only going to increase due to the spike in population in Africa and Asia, Orban added.

“The European political elite has failed the test,” he said. “It can’t reach any single one of its goals. When we gather in Bratislava (for the next EU summit) … we should openly say that we have to discuss the future of Europe because the political leadership of Europe has failed the test.”

According to the Hungarian PM, European bureaucrats are more dangerous for member states than Islamic terrorists.

Our problem isn’t in Mecca, but in Brussels. Islam is not an obstacle for us, but the officials Brussels are. We know how we should treat Islam, if we are left alone,” he said.

Orban expressed belief that the crisis of the Western elite has led to a crisis of democracy as for the last half-century all politicians in power – no matter left- or right-wing – came from “the same political incubator… represented the same school.”

After the UK decided to quit the European Union, the bloc must consider putting together its own military, he added.

READ MORE: Italy and Hungary against automatic renewal of anti-Russian sanctions

“We need a real army, in which there’ll be understanding; in which the orders are given to the same language,” the PM said
, adding that the need for EU member states’ active participation in NATO would still remain.

The Hungarian prime minister also touched on US presidential elections and effectively endorsed Donald Trump as a “valiant American presidential candidate.” While claiming that he is “not Donald Trump’s campaigner,” Orban said that the Republican nominee’s anti-terrorism proposals make him a stronger option for Europe and Hungary, as compared to the Democrats and Hillary Clinton.

“I listened to [Trump] and I have to tell you that he made three proposals to stop terrorism,” Orban said. “And as a European, I myself could not have drawn up better what Europe needs.”



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Yes, Trump has given oxygen, energized The Right all over the world.
And the Hungarians are lucky to have such a Leader as Orban.
He knows the Rodents "those bureaucrats in Brussels" - the real Enemy.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on August 22, 2016, 08:49:29 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3752551/Hungarian-politician-sparks-outrage-suggesting-putting-PIGS-HEADS-border-fences-stop-Muslim-migrants-entering-country.html


Hungarian politician sparks outrage after suggesting putting PIGS' HEADS on border fences to stop Muslim migrants entering country
Gyorgy Schopflin suggested placing pigs' heads on the Hungary border
The right-wing politician said it would 'deter' refugees 'more effectively'
But people have slammed his comments, saying they were 'disgusting'



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It is not the Hungarian People who slammed his comments, saying they were 'disgusting' -
it is the Jews, those Rodents whose maniacal obsession is to destroy the White Race.
And why, one may ask, is placing a pig's head to deter an Illegal Invasion, so disgusting?

Disgusting is Israel's policy towards the native Palestinian population -
uprooting them from their land, corralling them in Gaza, pummeling them with napalm bombs... 
That is disgusting - you incarnated Evil.



00408
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Imperium
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on August 26, 2016, 10:31:44 AM
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20160826/world/hungary-plans-a-second-border-fence-to-keep-out-migrants.623135


Friday, August 26, 2016, 09:01 by Krisztina Than for Reuters

Hungary plans a second border fence to keep out migrants

Hungary plans to build a second fence on its southern border with Serbia that would enable it to keep out any major new wave of migrants, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said today.

Orban said the new barrier, to be built alongside the existing one, would strengthen defences to respond if Turkey's policy on migration changed. If that happened, hundreds of thousands could appear at Hungary's border, he told public radio.
"Technical planning is under way to erect a more massive defence system next to the existing line of defence which was built quickly (last year)," Orban said.
Orban said Hungary had to prepare for the eventuality of a deal between Turkey and the European Union to clamp down on migration into Europe via the Balkans unravelling.

"Then if it does not work with nice words, we will have to stop them with force, and we will do so," Orban said.


A razor-wire fence built along Hungary's southern border with Serbia and Croatia has sharply reduced flows.
Last year hundreds of thousands of migrants moved up from the Balkans towards northern Europe. That flow has since been reduced to no more than a steady trickle.

Orban said Hungary would also boost its police presence to 47,000 from 44,000, of which 3,000 will be constantly deployed on the southern border.

He also said it was Europe's interest to work with Turkey and to agree on the issues that serve Europe's security.
Under the existing deal, Turkey has agreed to help stem the tide of illegal migrants into the bloc in exchange for aid and visa-free travel for Turks. Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan has repeatedly said that European leaders are not living up to their side of the pact.

Later on Friday, Orban and other prime ministers of Central European EU member states -- the Visegrad countries -- will meet in Warsaw with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Orban said the task for politicians was to change a decision by the EU to let in migrants and distribute them based on quotas among member states.


"The question is whether Angela Merkel will be willing to change this flawed Brussels decision together with us. Whether she is willing to fight with us for this, or not, Orban said."
Hungary will hold a referendum on Oct. 2 on whether to accept any future EU quota system for resettling migrants.

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And to think that We, of Imperium Europa, proposed the same solutions way back in 2005, at Safi.
But our Low Quality People ridiculed us - and instead believed that political picayune, Simon with his Burden Sharing.
And now we have five women patsies as MEPs, floating like dead fish along with the Jewish current,  embracing the baboons and "integrating with them".

And Metsola il-Pecluqa carries on writing reports with the 'orangutan wearing a skirt', Kyenge.
Metsola, eyed for Party Leadership (for PN desperate after their coming electoral loss), want a woman -
anything as a vote catching ploy - including a Pecluqa whose Burden Sharing allures the baboons.

And who cares about our Race, about our children and their children - and the nightmarish future they face?
Who cares about our dying Europa and our Civilisation? - the greatest in the history of our planet.
Who cares! - The importance is political survival from day to day - at the whim and behest of the Jews.



00408
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 03, 2016, 08:49:33 AM
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/europe/69225/hungarian_police_recruit_borderhunters_to_keep_out_asylum_seekers#.V8pwxNR97Mo


Hungarian police recruit ‘border-hunters’ to keep out asylum seekers
Hungarian police launches recruitment drive for 3,000 armed 'border-hunters', who will help police patrol fence by Serbian border for asylum seekers trying to enter the country


2 September 2016,

The Hungarian police are advertising for 3,000 “border-hunters”, to assist the 10,000 police officers and soldiers patrolling a razor-wire fence to keep asylum seekers out of the country.

Like police officers, the new recruits will be armed with pistols with live ammunition, and will also be given pepper spray, batons, handcuffs, and protective kit. Police officer Zsolt Pozsgai told Hungarian state television that the new recruits will have six months’ training, must be over 18, physically fit, and must pass a psychological test. They will be paid 150,000 forint (€483) for the first two months, and then 220,300 forint (€708).

 Hungary is in the middle of a campaign, launched by Prime Minister Victor Orban’s government ahead of a referendum on 2 October, in which voters will be asked to oppose a European Commission proposal to relocate 160,000 refugees from Italy and Greece. Under the EU scheme, Hungary has been asked to take in 1,300 refugees from Syria, Iraq and Eritrea.

The number of asylum seekers reaching Hungary’s southern border with Serbia has stagnated, at fewer than 200 daily. Currently 30 asylum seekers are allowed to enter Hungary each day through official “transit zones”. The number of those waiting on the Serbian side of the border for access to the transit zones, fell to 346 at Horgos last week, and 103 at Kelebia. That is below half the total of a month ago.


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Robust measures by a Statesman who loves his Country and his People.
A far cry from Burden Sharing - as preached by Metsola il-Pecluqa and our other MEPs.
Robust measures are needed - the stakes are too horrible to imagine.


Read previous post.


00409
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 29, 2016, 12:41:19 PM
http://www.dailystormer.com/viktor-orban-interview-on-the-migrant-crisis-and-referendum/


Viktor Orban Interview on the Migrant Crisis and Referendum

Andrew Anglin
Daily Stormer
September 29, 2016


It’s a good interview. He talks a good game.

However, I have been and remain staunchly anti-Orban.

Let me tell you about that.

Orban and a lot of these other cucks ruling Eastern European countries are anti-migrant – and probably anti-faggot, pro-family, and hold a few other basic bitch conservative positions which seem radical only in a radically Marxist world – and yet they are pro-EU, meaning that all of their other positions are fake.

The EU has a value system. The basic concept of pan-Europeanism is necessarily liberal, as it is anti-tradition and anti-identity, and everything that flows from this globalist position is going to ultimately go towards the direction that we hate.

What Orban and other anti-migrant/pro-EU shills are doing is acting like they are going to influence the EU to change their positions as a distraction, while the stranglehold intensifies. Orban can pass a law that says “no more migrants,” while he remains in the EU, and continues the pan-European integration process. All this means is that in a few years, Hungary will be so integrated that they won’t have any more choices as to their own laws because they won’t have any leverage, and Brussels will just say “okay, time for Moslems now.”

The only leverage Eastern countries have right now is the threat to leave the EU. But once their economies are fully integrated, once they have the euro, this will be extremely difficult or impossible to do.

Orban is doing the work of Merkel and Juncker. If it were not for this shill, Hungarians would be demanding to pull-out of the EU, because it is a right-wing country. This is the only way to absorb them – to give them a shill leader who claims he’s going to keep the Saracen out, while encouraging further integration which ensures invasion.

It’s all very obvious. I don’t know why I’m the only person saying this in English.

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The seven Regions of Hungary.
They will all find their Freedom, their customs, dialects, traditions in our Imperium Europa.
Imperium Europa has nothing to do with the present Judaic EU.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Hungary


Seven Free Regions within a Planetary Imperium:

http://www.vivamalta.net/VMforum/index.php?topic=11217.0

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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on September 29, 2016, 07:37:05 PM
Re previous post.


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IMPERIUM EUROPA of Free Regions and Peoples


 Guarded by the Elite



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00409
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 03, 2016, 09:33:59 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/02/europe/hungary-migrant-referendum/index.html


Hungary voters reject EU migrant-resettlement plan, but low turnout invalidates results

By Alba Prifti and Kimberly Hutcherson, CNN
Updated 2132 GMT (0532 HKT) October 2, 2016

(CNN)Hungarians voted Sunday to reject a European Union refugee resettlement plan, but failed to turn out in sufficient numbers to make the referendum legally binding.

Voter turnout was 43.7%, according to data published on the Hungarian National Election Office website, short of the 50% participation required to make the referendum valid under Hungarian law.
Gulyás Gergely, the Vice-President of Hungary's ruling party, FIDESZ, nevertheless described the result as an "overwhelming victory" that demonstrated "unprecedented unity." He said that more than 90% of those who did vote supported Prime Minister Viktor Orban's "No" position.

In a Sunday evening television address, Orban said the European Union cannot force migration policies on Hungary and vowed to fight any efforts to do so.

"Can a democratic community [the EU] force its will to a member where 92% [of the voters] is against it? I promise, I will do everything so this can never ever happen," he said.

Orban had spearheaded a campaign asking Hungarians to reject EU migrant quotas for the country. Before the referendum, advertisements blanketed airwaves painting migrants in a negative light. Leaflets distributed throughout the country, along with posters and billboards, warned of the dangers of accepting refugees.

"We lose our European values and identity the way frogs are cooked in slowly heating water," Orban said Friday. "Quite simply, slowly there will be more and more Muslims, and we will no longer recognize Europe."...


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You see, in our Nova Europa of Free Regions and Peoples this would not happen.
Every Region would have a Free Vote on anything under the sun - including Immigration and Burden Sharing.
Most Regions would vote to boot out the monkeys, the criminals, the Illegal Invaders.

The non Europid Illegal Invaders will then cram into those Regions who seem to enjoy them!
We will force the Illegals into fewer and fewer squares on the chessboard.
And let those Regions too lazy to vote on this issue, enjoy the fruit of Multiculturalism. 

Of course, after Nova Europa comes Imperium Europa - sometime before 2032.
Then, RACE becomes the prerogative of The Elite - and all non-Europids within the Imperium will be mercilessly forced out.
With them out of the way - We will then hang All Traitors who brought this tragedy about.

IN ALTO LE FORCHE!



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The Golden Dawn
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 05, 2016, 11:38:38 AM
https://euobserver.com/migration/135363


Orban would ban mass resettlement in constitution

ESZTER ZALAN

BRUSSELS, TODAY, 09:30

Hungary's prime minister Viktor Orban is to propose constitutional amendments banning the mass resettlement of migrants by the EU without parliament's approval.

"In Hungary 3.3 million voters decided they will not let others decide for them on resettlement of migrants," he told journalists on Tuesday (4 October), after a referendum on Sunday saw 98 percent of voters who cast a valid ballot rejecting EU competence over migration quotas.

The referendum was however invalid according to Hungary's national election committee, as it failed to bring out more than half of Hungary's 8 million eligible voters.

Orban has nevertheless vowed to make constitutional changes, saying the referendum result "cannot remain without consequences in politics, if there is still democracy in Hungary".

The proposed amendments would state that without the parliament's consent no EU legislation can order the resettlement of migrants in Hungary.

They would also ban mass resettlement into Hungary, because as Orban argued, "it is a question of sovereignty, and no decision in Brussels can question Hungary's inalienable right to decide on its territorial integrity and population".

The prime minister said the government would amend the basic law, that came into force in 2011.

One of the amendments would state that resettlement could only happen after Hungarian authorities examined an individual request claim, or if Hungary's parliament passes a law allowing resettlement.

Hungary's government will review the proposed amendments on Wednesday, which would require a two-thirds majority in parliament.

The ruling Fidesz no longer has a two-thirds majority but Orban can count on the support of the far-right Jobbik, which has earlier submitted similar proposals for constitutional change.

The opposition socialists said it was "not legitimate" to amend the constitution based on an invalid referendum.

EU supremacy?

Orban also added that "he cannot imagine" that Brussels would make a decision that goes against the will of Hungarian voters.

Since Sunday's referendum Orban has dismissed the issue of validity, and has been instead focusing on the high proportion of votes going his way.

"Brussels cannot make rules that override the national legislation," Orban was quoted by the Hungarian news wire.

EU law however is superior to national law - if there is conflict, then European law prevails.

EU officials quizzed on the issue said they would have to look at the language Orban uses in the legal text to check if the amendments could go against EU law.

However, Orban might use as a legal basis the part of the EU treaty that says the union "shall respect their essential State functions, including ensuring the territorial integrity of the State, maintaining law and order and safeguarding national security".

If all goes according to Orban's plan, MPs could vote on the proposed constitutional amendments on 8 November and they could come into force mid-November.

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Just change Hungary into Region and one will have our Nova Europa of Free Regions and Peoples.
Orban is paving the way for our New Europe - where Regions decide what is good or not for them.
Regions, Free Regions will decide their Future - not Schultz the Rodent and his Tribe.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on October 05, 2016, 11:46:09 AM
https://euobserver.com/migration/135367


Sweden threatens to sue Hungary over asylum refusals


Sweden's minister of justice Morgan Johansson said Sweden will challenge Hungary in court unless it starts taking back asylum seekers from other EU countries.
The European Commission is sending a fact-finding delegation to Hungary to examine reasons for the row.

Earlier this month, ministers from the Nordic countries - Denmark, Finland, Iceland and Norway, in addition to Sweden - wrote to the EU executive to complain that Hungary is not abiding by EU Dublin rules, which say refugees should in principle seek asylum in the first EU country they enter.
Johansson was one of the co-signatories of the letter....

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The Squalid Socialist Swedes, complaining about immigrants stuck in Sweden.
Immigrants depleting Sweden's welfare system, destroying whole cities, rioting, raping,...
The Swedes first accept the Free-Loaders and now, want to "Burden Share" them.

You Squalid Socialist Bastards!



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: oebalus on October 29, 2016, 10:41:26 AM
Hungary appears to be making the right sounds, but it still has not demonstrated the political will and drive to muscle those sounds.  Hungary is  preventing illegal entry, how effectively this is done its open to questioning. However their door is still open for "legal entries", and as far as deportation of the existing non white population is concerned , there has not been the least movement in that direction. For all her seemingly recalcitrant posture, the Hungarian government is still championing to be within and part of the crumbling edifice of the EU.  All countries within the EU are subject , in thrall ,to the irreversible global immigration policies and  decree, programmed ,designed and implemented by their masters voice, the Judaica cabal. If change is to come, the judaica hydra, neck and hundred heads needs to be decapitated.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on November 09, 2016, 09:56:17 AM
https://euobserver.com/migration/135818


Hungarian MPs sink Orban's anti-migrant plan

Hungary's prime minister Viktor Orban suffered a blow on Tuesday after he failed to get the necessary two-thirds majority in parliament to pass constitutional amendments aimed at keeping migrants out of the country.
Far-right Jobbik, the Socialist Party and the green LMP did not vote, while three independent MPs voted no, stripping Orban of the necessary majority.

Far-right Jobbik leader Gabor Vona refused to give its support to Orban (Photo: Jobbik website)
In the 199-seat parliament all members of Orban's ruling coalition, 131 MPs voted in favour of the seventh amendments to the constitution that was passed in 2011.

Orban needed just two more votes to succeed.

It is rare for the bellicose prime minister, whose party enjoyed a two-thirds majority between 2010 and 2015, to not get his way.

He submitted the amendments that aim to keep migrants out of Hungary despite the 2 October referendum on the issue being invalid because of low turnout.

However, in the plebiscite more than 3 million voters rejected EU migrant quotas -- more than 98 percent of the valid ballots.

Orban attempted to use that figure to push through legislation reinforcing the Hungarian parliament's rights to oppose any future plan by the EU to resettle asylum seekers among members of the bloc.


The proposed changes would have banned any migrant settlement without the approval of the national assembly and authorities.

Orban argued the amendment was needed to honour the referendum's result.

Jobbik's tactical move

But far-right Jobbik, which in principle agreed with the constitutional amendments and keeping out migrants, spotted an opportunity to put pressure on Orban.

They made their support conditional on the government scrapping a scheme that gives access to Hungary and the EU to wealthy investors, particularly from Russia, China and the Middle East.

The far-right party has been critical of the government’s shady residency bond programme, which gives Hungarian residency to applicants and their families for an initial refundable investment of €300,000 and a non-refundable €60,000 fee.

“Neither poor nor rich migrants should be allowed to settle in Hungary,” Jobbik leader Gabor Vona argued, saying the programme means national security risk.


Orban first considered Jobbik's offer, but then he said he would not give in to "blackmail".

Jobbik MPs held up a large sign in parliament on Tuesday, saying: “The traitor is the one who allows in terrorists for money!”

Defeat for Orban

"This is a considerable defeat for Fidesz, it is now the second occasion after the invalid referendum that things did not play out as Orban had planned," Csaba Toth of Budapest-based Republikon Institute told this website.

"It is a self-inflicted defeat for Fidesz that refused to compromise, making it clear that trying to gain political advantage on the long run over Jobbik is more important for them that pushing through the amendments," Toth said.

Toth said Fidesz will try to portray Jobbik as the traitors, but that it would be difficult to convince even the critics of nationalist Jobbik of that.

In the meantime Jobbik is arguing that for Orban's ruling Fidesz corruption is more important than national interest.

Tuesday's vote is another episode in the emerging power struggle between Orban's ruling Fidesz and Jobbik ahead of the 2018 elections.



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Giving citizenship for money - it rings a bell, doesn't it.
Jobbik are our friends and are ideologically sound.
They also know the Rodents in Human Form very, very well.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: Cosima on February 17, 2017, 02:56:01 PM

Hungary BOLSTERS emergency border controls as 'masses' of illegal immigrants try to enter

HUNGARY has stepped up border security measures to include an increased military presence in a renewed bid to deter migrants from entering the country illegally.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/768405/Hungary-BOLSTERS-emergency-border-controls-as-masses-of-illegal-immigrants-try-to-enter?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-news-showbiz+%28Express+%3A%3A+News+%2F+Showbiz+Feed%29

'You will CRUSH the people' Hungarian PM slams 'GLOBALIST ELITE' for open-door migration

HUNGARY’s anti-establishment prime minister has blasted the globalist elites for encouraging mass migration which will “crush the will of the people” and replace Europe’s existing population

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/767018/viktor-orban-globalist-elite-open-door-migration-policy-donald-trump-hungary-pm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-news-showbiz+%28Express+%3A%3A+News+%2F+Showbiz+Feed%29
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on February 28, 2017, 04:22:43 PM
https://euobserver.com/migration/137046


Hungary rejects criticism of NGO crackdown


NEWS MIGRATION
Hungary rejects criticism of NGO crackdown

The Hungarian government denies Orban (l) wants to create an illiberal democracy (Photo: kremlin.ru)
By NIKOLAJ NIELSEN

BRUSSELS, 27. FEB, 19:04

The Hungarian government continues to label organisations like Amnesty International as "political agents" in a move civil society says is part of a plan to intimidate dissenting voices.
Hungary's government spokesperson Zoltan Kovacs accused some NGOs on Monday (27 February) of being "foreign agents financed by foreign money".


He said the NGOs were organising "networks and frameworks" in an attempt to influence political decision-making.
"I believe that should be avoided and stopped," he told reporters in Brussels.

Hungary's prime minister Viktor Orban earlier this month lashed out at civil society groups financed by billionaire philanthropist George Soros, such as Human Rights Watch.

The government criticism comes ahead of a legislative proposal to force NGOs to submit a declaration of assets, which Kovacs said was needed to ensure transparency.

But the Hungarian Civil Liberties Committee told MEPs in a debate, also on Monday, that the right-wing government push for NGO transparency was an attempt to stifle dissent.

"All of these proposals are wrapped in a rhetoric that reveals their real purpose, to stigmatise or even get rid of these organisations," said Stefania Kapronczy, executive director at the Hungarian Civil Liberties Committee.


The legislative proposal on NGOs has yet to be made public, noted Kapronczy.

Amnesty International's Todor Gardos says they too have faced government abuse.

He said the first wave of intimidation and harassment of NGOs had been ordered by Orban.

Last week, the government accused Amnesty of producing fake reports and of inciting migrants to break laws, he said.

"We are expecting more intimidation," he told MEPs.


Gardos said Hungary's breach of EU values warranted the triggering of article 7 of the EU treaty, which could lead to the suspension of voting rights in the Council.

Hungary hosts some 60,000 NGOs.

Its minister, Laszlo Trocsanyi, said they were flourishing but that their level of "legitimacy is variable".

"The government has legitimacy in the fact that the people have voted for them, NGOs have the right to express their views, if we don't hear those views there is a problem, but if we don't accept those views, can you really accuse us of being some kind of dictatorship?", he asked MEPs.

Hungary has drawn criticism from human rights defenders who say its migration and asylum policies, border crackdowns, and restrictions on media are part of a broader authoritarian trend.

The government last year spent millions on a failed referendum against migrants. But NGOs like Amnesty said efforts such as this had contributed to a heightened increase of hostility against migrants.

The government also paid over €500 million for a border fence with Serbia, including related expenses.

It has earmarked an additional €124 million to erect a second "smart fence", equipped with motion detection devices.

It said the smart fence was needed to reduce migration into the country from across Serbia "basically to zero".

Anyone caught within 8km of the Hungarian side of the border is escorted by the police back to Serbia. Over 19,000 people, from July and December alone last year, were blocked and pushed back.

Hungary's parliament is now mulling a bill that would allow authorities to detain every asylum seeker, including families with children, in transit zones along the border. Up to 300 people would be housed in buildings made of old containers.

The Hungarian government said the proposal was part of its efforts to protect the EU's passport-free zone Schengen area.

But both Human Rights Watch and Hungarian Helsinki Committee in a joint letter over the weekend asked the European Commission to intervene.

"The European Commission should not stand by while Hungary makes a mockery of the right to seek asylum," Human Rights Watch deputy director Benjamin Ward said.

"Using transit zones as detention centers and forcing asylum seekers who are already inside Hungary back to the Serbian side of the razor-wire fence is abusive, pointless, and cruel," he said.

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The treasonous NGOs, all manipulated by the Hidden Enemy: the Jews.
And when the tables turn, soon, we will go after them and hang them all as Traitors to their Race, their People and their Country.
Saremo spietati!



00502
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on February 28, 2017, 05:41:37 PM
http://www.dailystormer.com/hungary-jews-organize-gypsies-and-homosexuals-in-soros-backed-campaign-to-overthrow-viktor-orban/


Hungary: Jews Organize Gypsies and Homosexuals in Soros-Backed Campaign to Overthrow Viktor Orban

Eric Striker
Daily Stormer
February 28, 2017

ike most of the former Warsaw Pact countries, the Soviets from the 1960s on heavily curbed Jewish influence (whose abuses were the catalyst for the 1956 pogrom that wound up with the Soviets demanding many prominent Communist Party Jews resign) and allowed some degree of national identity in its satellite states like Hungary. The Berlin Wall was a barrier against the 68ers and other sex and globalism-centered Jewish cultural upheavals that were the beginning of the end (?) of the white race in France, West Germany and other Judeo-globalist American client states.

Today, NATO, the European Union and international Jews like George Soros, have spent billions of dollars looking to re-engineer the youth of Hungary by offering hyper-individualism and cushy middle class jobs doing nothing as a stick-and-carrot way to cultivate the nihilism and rootless cosmopolitanism they need in the new elites they are spawning.

Safe to say they haven’t been too successful. While Viktor Orban is heavily demonized by the international Judenpresse for his “controversial” stance on keeping millions of violent blacks and Arabs out of Hungary, he is simply a moderate expression of the will of the Hungarian people. contd

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Jews using Gypsies in Hungary, as Jews use Blacks in the USA.
Gypsies and Jews have much in common: dirty, their music, their lust for money: purse snatching for Gypsies, Fed Reserve for Jews!
They can live anywhere: leeches, spongers, parasites.



00502
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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: maltapride88camilleri on March 18, 2017, 11:41:33 PM

http://www.euronews.com/2017/03/18/hungary-s-border-hunters-trained-armed-and-ready-for-action

AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL EUROPEAN COUNTRIES.WE DONT NEED TURKEY TO STOP THE IMMIGRANTS.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: oebalus on March 25, 2017, 06:08:46 AM
The notion that the bestial Turks and turkey are needed to stop the invasion flow it is a gigantic fraudulent farce. Turkey is only a conduit, a station stop before the next station. The onus is to seal the borders on the proximate nations facing the invasion wave. Turkey can not do anything from the push back or backwash from the bordering nation short of applying "anti humanitarian" measures , eg. Blowing up the caravans , or sinking the dinghies bringing the rejected invaders back to its shores. It is all a grand show of deception and sleight of mental perception. The problem are not the invaders, the problem is the grand plan, the essential concept of population replacement of European by the rest of the world. As long as we keep contemporary legislations in place and feverishly adhere to the concepts of humanism, and negation of race , the gradual destruction and replacement of the European lhomelands will escalate until the objective goals are reached.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: maltapride88camilleri on July 19, 2017, 02:12:52 AM
http://www.euronews.com/2017/07/18/hungary-pledges-support-for-israel-during-budapest-talks

It is a big,big big,mistake never trust the rodents.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: oebalus on July 21, 2017, 04:32:11 AM
It is not surprising. It is in line with the political direction of every single EU member country, and also the EU itself. 70 years of militant de-nazification , or pro Talmudic indoctrination is the concomitant result of contemporary times.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: maltapride88camilleri on October 03, 2017, 02:35:37 AM
https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/914138211210932225

A TRUE LEADER WITH (BALLS).
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: maltapride88camilleri on November 25, 2017, 12:29:34 AM
http://www.euronews.com/2017/11/23/hungary-s-fear-factor

We need more strong politicians like this well done HUNGARY.
Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on November 25, 2017, 11:38:28 AM
Read the very good, previous post.
Notice the young, blind Liberal dimwit in the video -  notice the monstrous Gypsy at his side.
Typically Jewish brainwashed Multiculturalist.

All that PM Orban is doing now, our fake PM could have done before, when he was elected on the Push Back cry.
Now, he and his gang of four Liberals are hell bent on Integration and the Destruction of our People.
Now, the fake PM admits that Illegals are not 5,000 after all, but l5,000 - and he is determined to give them citizenship.

We are in contact with Hungarian Patriots.
This is Laszlo Virag after his truly deep Spiritual message at the London Forum:

"Dear MR Lowell

I saw your positive youtube comment on the lecture of Laszlo Virag (member of the Hungarian Traditionalist School) in London. After I read your comment I searched the internet for your movement the imperium Europa. I'm very happy to see that in Malta there is such a intellectual and traditionalist movement like yours. On the following link you can find the book of András László (Leader of the Hungarian Traditionalist School) called Solum Ipsum.

http://www.tradicio.org/english/solumipsum.htm

I hope it will be use full for the members of your movement. The book will be published by Arktos.com hopefully in the near future.
I wish all the best for you and your movement in our fight against the modern world!

Kind Regards

Attila Nemeth
Hungarian rightist, traditionalist"
http://www.tradicio.org/english/solumipsum.htm



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on February 15, 2018, 11:13:08 AM
https://euobserver.com/beyond-brussels/140990


Hungary plans to paralyse NGOs dealing with migration

"A government that can be blackmailed will give up national independence and transform Hungary into an immigrant country," argues Hungary's PM Orban (Photo: Viktor Orban's Facebook page)
By ESZTER ZALAN

BRUSSELS, TODAY, 08:56
Hungary's government submitted a so-called "Stop Soros" legislation package to parliament late Tuesday (13 February), which would grant the interior minister powers to ban civil groups deemed to support migration.

The bill is part of prime minister Viktor Orban's anti-immigration drive that has recently targeted Hungarian-born US financier and philanthropist George Soros, who has been promoting liberal values through his foundation, Open Society.

Rights groups say the draft is the latest effort by the nationalist government to undermine civil society, democratic values and curb critical voices ahead of elections on 8 April, where Orban's ruling Fidesz party is expected to win a third consecutive term.

The bill says NGOs that "sponsor, organise or otherwise support a third-country national's entry or stay in Hungary via a safe third country in order to ensure international protection" qualify as organisations that support migration.

The definition also includes organisations that do advocacy work, recruit volunteers, and produce and distribute information material.

Under the bill, these organisations would have to be approved by the Hungarian interior minister, who could deny permission if he saw a "national security risk".

The bill would also impose a 25 percent tax on foreign donations to NGOs that help migration in Hungary.

If organisations fail to comply, Hungarian prosecutors could withdraw their tax number, impose punishing fines, and eventually dissolve them.


The government argues that the bill aims to deter illegal immigration, which Orban claims erodes European identity and security and has been promoted by Soros and organisations partially funded through his foundations.

The third element of the bill would have activists who support migration - or whose presence and activities are contrary to Hungary's national security interests - face restraining orders to prevent them from approaching the EU's external borders in Hungary.

Any foreign citizen seen to be supporting migration could be banned from Hungary entirely.

Orban's government has also continued a media campaign against Soros, claiming that the Hungarian-born Jewish businessman wants to "settle millions from Africa and the Middle East".

"The proposed laws are not about George Soros and the Open Society Foundations," Soros's foundation said in a statement last month when news of the planned bill broke.

"Their aim is to criminalise civil society and to impose stigma on the last remaining independent voices in Hungary that are not controlled by the ruling party, three months before the parliamentary election," the statement added.

Hungary had already tightened rules on NGOs last year. The European Commission said that the legislation broke EU rules and referred Budapest to the European Court of Justice over the issue.

Human rights group Amnesty International on Wednesday (14 February) called the bill "deeply disturbing and unjustified assault on civil society".

"In reality, these proposals have nothing to do with protecting national security or borders, and everything [to do] with muzzling those who work to assist people in need and dare to raise their voices," Gauri van Gulik, the organisation's Europe director said in a statement.

Viktor Orban, in a speech to Fidesz's parliamentary group on Wednesday, said that the stakes at the election are whether to have an independent government after the ballot or one that is exposed to blackmail.

"A government that can be blackmailed will give up national independence and transform Hungary into an immigrant country," Orban said, according to pro-government daily newspaper Magyar Idok.

Orban claimed that foreign economic and political interest groups, with the leadership of George Soros, want a weak and blackmailed government in Hungary.

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That is what Leadership is - protection of one's Country and Peoples.
And like the Hungarians, We of Imperium Europa will put the various NGOs, foremost the vile Jesuits, in their place.
We will starve them of funds and they will die out - for it is money that drives these hypocrites.



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Title: Re: Hungary
Post by: IMPERIUM on February 17, 2018, 03:27:58 PM
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/02/eu-hungarian-town-cant-be-european-capital-of-culture-because-there-are-too-many-happy-white-people/#.WogHUMeMLFM.twitter


EU: Hungarian town can’t be European Capital of Culture because there are “too many happy white people”
 By VOICE OF EUROPE  17 February 2018


The EU jury of the European Capital of Culture contest (EKF 2023), said that one of the participating towns is “too white and there are not enough migrants”, Hungarian news website “888.hu” reports.

With only seven semi-finalists left, the Hungarian town of Székesfehérvár made a promotional film for the jury. The film shows the town’s most beautiful places, a happy couple and some kids playing.

But the EU’s jury rejected the submission of Székesfehérvár’s debut film: “There are too many happy white people and crosses, and not enough migrants,” the jury said.

The film of the town also featured on YouTube and attracted over 3,000 views. One of the European Union’s experts replied with: “This is the propaganda film for white Christian Europe; everyone is white, happy and dancing in the streets.”

The mayor of the Hungarian town, Dr. András Cser-Palkovics, gave a press conference about the decision of the jury on Wednesday. He said that in fact no expert hearing was conducted, but the decision was solely based on daily political issues and accusations were directed at Székesfehérvár and the delegation.

The mayor also recalled the criticisms made by the film committee about Székesfehérvár: “They left the poor and the migrants out of the film, but at the same time, there were too many crosses, churches, and what was even worse, the attitude of the city, because they regarded this as a value.”

The jury decided after all to recommend the entries of Győr, Debrecen and Veszprém as finalists for the European Capital of Culture.

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Watch promotional video of this White town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=165&v=cCBUouBU_Oo


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So now we know why Valletta was chosen!


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