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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2007, 07:50:49 PM »

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indeed. we must slaughter the blacks that dont want to return to africa. glad you agree on that one.

What can I say? 9_9;;; You deliberately misinterpret my words. ^_~

I do not see the relationship between the ridding of Africans
and solving the obesity and excessive drinking problems.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2007, 08:48:00 PM »

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What can I say? 9_9;;; You deliberately misinterpret my words. ^_~

I do not see the relationship between the ridding of Africans
and solving the obesity and excessive drinking problems.

obesity and drinking were metaphors. i meant decadence in general.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2007, 09:49:50 PM »

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Lets look at what is being said in a nitty gritty warts and all kinda way.

If the darkies were halted from entering europe and had to remain in Africa.What would happen to them?No one to hold their hand.With their self pepetuating hatred for each other ie wars,diseases which they continue to spread amongst themselves through ignorance and spite, an obvious inability to fend for themselves(zimbabwe,and the like) and feed themselves.How ong would they last?

Aids which is African in origination is treated and controlled by white mans drugs.In fact, all African diseases,viruses and pestulence is controlled by white mans drugs.Every African country is propped up with western financial aid.Take away the money.How long do you really think they would last?Those that arn't killed off by tribal and territorial war will die of disease or starvation.Nature will finish off the others.The only ones that might survive would be these odd bodd tribes that still mauntain a life that they have lived for the last god knows how many years.Even the Kalahari bushmen have fallen to interbreeding ,drugs ,alcoholism and the worst of all,they are losing their bushcraft.Something that kept them alive not from whitemans interference but other bantu boys,hottentots and village witch doctors.All in all,a pretty miserable continent.

So,imo,they would pretty darn well nearly fizzle out.

Yes many would phase themselves out for the above reasons - The equilibrium level need not be pretty. Presuming that no lessons were learnt from colonial times the Africans would likely find themselves not too far ahead from brecolonial times - much smaller-scale tribes.
 
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You see! If for whatever raeson they went 'back to africa' you blame the white man.How is it the white mans fault?Integration! Assimilation!It is they that fail to cross the bridge.Liberal whites give these darkies everything bar the kitchen sink.

While the European, Arab and Asian is not innocent of the current situation in Africa, the focus of my post was upon the prediction made - that the African race would fade to nothing. I suggest that if Africans were left to their own devices (without European (and Arab and Asian)) interference) the African race would stand a chance of survival.

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You sound like you are being coerced.A do-gooder.Why must it always be whitey that has to do the dirty work?
 

You should know well that I am not being coerced. 9_9

Europe has an interest in seeing the citizens of Africa being repatriated but faces a dilema in sending them back to the source of the problem. Hence a longer-term approach with repatriation as an aim would be ob benefit to both continents.

You are right in saying that it is unfair for Europe to do this alone. The Africans' and the Arabs' voluntary participation would be in everybody's best interest.
 
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Africans were slaving each other long before whitey landed in Africa.All that whitey did was to remove them from one continent and dump them in another.Besides,long before whitey arrived in Africa,slave trading was quite normal and everyone who reads history knows this.Wether it is right or not is another subject.Why even the Grandmasters had slaves.Who manned the oars in the galleys?Maltese?

It is precisely the ethics and the circumstances that surround the trans-atlantic slave trade that causes me to take this stance. Unlike illegal african immigrants, most African Americans did not catch a rickety boat to the US. They were forcibly ferried across.

True, there was a slave trade in Africa anyway but the moment the US bought the slaves the Africans bought for labour became America's responsibility. It is now America's responsibility to see to the problems posed by a resident African American population in a responsible fashion.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2007, 10:18:39 PM »

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Africans were slaving each other long before whitey landed in Africa.All that whitey did was to remove them from one continent and dump them in another.Besides,long before whitey arrived in Africa,slave trading was quite normal and everyone who reads history knows this.Wether it is right or not is another subject.Why even the Grandmasters had slaves.Who manned the oars in the galleys?Maltese?

lets not forget all the maltese taken as slaves by arabs and turks.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2007, 10:32:22 PM »

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Yes many would phase themselves out for the above reasons - The equilibrium level need not be pretty. Presuming that no lessons were learnt from colonial times the Africans would likely find themselves not too far ahead from brecolonial times - much smaller-scale tribes.
 


While the European, Arab and Asian is not innocent of the current situation in Africa, the focus of my post was upon the prediction made - that the African race would fade to nothing. I suggest that if Africans were left to their own devices (without European (and Arab and Asian)) interference) the African race would stand a chance of survival.



You should know well that I am not being coerced. 9_9

Europe has an interest in seeing the citizens of Africa being repatriated but faces a dilema in sending them back to the source of the problem. Hence a longer-term approach with repatriation as an aim would be ob benefit to both continents.

You are right in saying that it is unfair for Europe to do this alone. The Africans' and the Arabs' voluntary participation would be in everybody's best interest.
 


It is precisely the ethics and the circumstances that surround the trans-atlantic slave trade that causes me to take this stance. Unlike illegal african immigrants, most African Americans did not catch a rickety boat to the US. They were forcibly ferried across.

True, there was a slave trade in Africa anyway but the moment the US bought the slaves the Africans bought for labour became America's responsibility. It is now America's responsibility to see to the problems posed by a resident African American population in a responsible fashion.

im not going to waffle on forever in response because i dont suffer from the guilt trip so many white do. i was born in england and i have visited a few different countries and can balance things up pretty well. in england we were taught evil whitey ruined africa through colonialism that is why they are screwed today. i come to malta and the maltese arent starving. i even hear maltese say they were better off under the british. If maltese can do it with NO RESOURCES then why cant africans?

point is: if the niggggers dont like america they can leave. they are moaning that they were taken as slaves and all that (their generations dead ancestors were actually) but their damn cousins in africa are leaving that hell hole of a continent for the evil west (including america). the blacks in america should be KISSING WHITEYS FEET for saving them as they are infinitely better off. sure there were bads but so native english had the same. english people were press ganged to serve on her majestys ships but they dont fucking bitch till the sun goes down.

all these bastards do is moan, be then niggger, kyke, mestizo or whoever. whites and asians suffered and continue to do so but they get on with it!!!!

back to africa. it is pretty damn simple. repatriate all nigggggers and give them some cash. then we offer them our 'goods' in exchange for their resources. if they dont take our goods for their resources then they will simply wipe themselves out through starvation and disease. THEY WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED BACK.

if there are any resources in africa that we cannot obtain from anywhere else then we have a problem. it is a problem that muskets solved in the past and f16's/f22's will in the future.

i have no sympathy for any of them. WE OWE THE WORLD NOTHING-IT OWES US BIG TIME AND THAT IS WHY EAST ASIANS RESPECT WHITES AND NO OTHER RACE BESIDES THEIR OWN.
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2007, 10:44:11 PM »

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i have no sympathy for any of them. WE OWE THE WORLD NOTHING-IT OWES US BIG TIME AND THAT IS WHY EAST ASIANS RESPECT WHITES AND NO OTHER RACE BESIDES THEIR OWN.

Thats right, why should we.
The East Asians Respect us because they are the only race currently not below our level.
The Rest are all a bunch of Jelous bastards
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2007, 12:54:05 AM »

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Thats right, why should we.
The East Asians Respect us because they are the only race currently not below our level.
The Rest are all a bunch of Jelous bastards

What do you mean by East Asians? Chinese? Japanese?
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2007, 01:44:12 AM »

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What do you mean by East Asians? Chinese? Japanese?

i was reffering to them all. as much as we may be hated there is a respect. who can respect a pathetic, begging negro?
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2007, 12:12:48 PM »

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im not going to waffle on forever in response because i dont suffer from the guilt trip so many white do.

It is not a matter of European guilt but about European participation in rectifying the flaws that persist in the reality we live in.

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i was born in england and i have visited a few different countries and can balance things up pretty well. in england we were taught evil whitey ruined africa through colonialism that is why they are screwed today.

Perhaps not to the degree that education would have us believe... and Euro-American interference in Africa may have had its beneficial effects... but it also came with its 'side-effects'. Dependency is just one of them... much like what is happening to Malta with respect to EU funds.

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i come to malta and the maltese arent starving. i even hear maltese say they were better off under the british. If maltese can do it with NO RESOURCES then why cant africans?

First of all Malta does have resources. It has historic relevance, an attractive geographic location, a potentially important geo-political location and more. Beyond this Malta has more physical resources but mismanages them, not least of which includes the nature of the labour force.

Africans can do it, or can achieve a semblance to it. If they have an IQ of 60 (worst case scenario) then one should be able to expect them to achieve half the level of civilization that Europeans have achieved. Now whether it is fair for Europe to play a part in this process is debateable but what is clear is that Europe would benefit from more stable and economically prosperous neighbours.

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point is: if the niggggers dont like america they can leave. they are moaning that they were taken as slaves and all that (their generations dead ancestors were actually) but their damn cousins in africa are leaving that hell hole of a continent for the evil west (including america). the blacks in america should be KISSING WHITEYS FEET for saving them as they are infinitely better off. sure there were bads but so native english had the same. english people were press ganged to serve on her majestys ships but they dont fucking bitch till the sun goes down.

While I understand your point you are taking things a little out of context. African-Americans do not typically want to leave America - it is certain elements of the European-Americans who would want them deported out of the continent.

If a man rapes a woman and gives her single-parented son the keys to a luxury sports car which do you think is the more likely reaction, kissing of the guy's feet or a bullet through the head? Same applies here except that as generations roll on so too does the ghetto mentality that perpetuates anti-europeanism fade. This allows for more versatility in seeking a solution for the tensions that remain.

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all these bastards do is moan, be then niggger, kyke, mestizo or whoever. whites and asians suffered and continue to do so but they get on with it!!!!

The ghetto culture perpetuates the mentality - not all members of the degrees of African Americans that you mention fit the ghetto personality. Those individuals do try to 'get on with it'. Therefore a weakening of the ghetto culture also weakens the perpetuation of the problems stemming from the ghetto culture concerned.

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back to africa. it is pretty damn simple. repatriate all nigggggers and give them some cash. then we offer them our 'goods' in exchange for their resources. if they dont take our goods for their resources then they will simply wipe themselves out through starvation and disease. THEY WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED BACK.

Cash is not a resource but a figment that humans have empowered. Cash is also anonymous and dispassionate and this is why a lot of Aid was and is misused. With a lot of fine-tuning and a shift in the type of resources invested this line of thinking might approach plausability.

I shall leave the question of allowance out for the moment.


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if there are any resources in africa that we cannot obtain from anywhere else then we have a problem. it is a problem that muskets solved in the past and f16's/f22's will in the future.

The military option is only plausible in defense as otherwise it is an act of tyranny. I am quite sure that Europe is capable of doing well without extracting Africa's resources.

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i have no sympathy for any of them. WE OWE THE WORLD NOTHING-IT OWES US BIG TIME AND THAT IS WHY EAST ASIANS RESPECT WHITES AND NO OTHER RACE BESIDES THEIR OWN.

It is not a matter of sympathy and you are very wrong about 'The World' - You owe The World your existence. Do you owe 'Africa' anything? Perhaps not but it 'is' in Europe's interest to have stable neighbours.

Otherwise Illegal Immigration would be here to stay.
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2007, 03:49:00 PM »

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It is not a matter of European guilt but about European participation in rectifying the flaws that persist in the reality we live in.

deport the africans, dont feel guilty. flaws are sorted

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Perhaps not to the degree that education would have us believe... and Euro-American interference in Africa may have had its beneficial effects... but it also came with its 'side-effects'. Dependency is just one of them... much like what is happening to Malta with respect to EU funds.

malta does not depend on eu funds, corrupt politicians do. the benefits we are told about are simply benefits that ministers and their hencemen get by skimming off the funds. malta needs no one, we just need ourselves.

it is like blaming society for someone who takes drugs or is an alcoholic. nobody is forcing them

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First of all Malta does have resources. It has historic relevance, an attractive geographic location, a potentially important geo-political location and more. Beyond this Malta has more physical resources but mismanages them, not least of which includes the nature of the labour force.

compared to africa we have none. let me use britain as another example. they cut down their forests and conquered the world. africans didnt even create a wheel.

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Africans can do it, or can achieve a semblance to it. If they have an IQ of 60 (worst case scenario) then one should be able to expect them to achieve half the level of civilization that Europeans have achieved. Now whether it is fair for Europe to play a part in this process is debateable but what is clear is that Europe would benefit from more stable and economically prosperous neighbours.

avg iq is 75 there. retarded is 70. europe would play a part as i said. we would trade.

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While I understand your point you are taking things a little out of context. African-Americans do not typically want to leave America - it is certain elements of the European-Americans who would want them deported out of the continent.

why dont they shut up moaning about slavery and how they were stolen from africa. if they are so pissed off about it why dont they return? they should be grateful that they have such opportunities. it is not americas fault that most are pathetic. codoleeza rice and colin powell seem to have done ok without bitching.

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If a man rapes a woman and gives her single-parented son the keys to a luxury sports car which do you think is the more likely reaction, kissing of the guy's feet or a bullet through the head? Same applies here except that as generations roll on so too does the ghetto mentality that perpetuates anti-europeanism fade. This allows for more versatility in seeking a solution for the tensions that remain.

? malta should do the same then no? do we?

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The ghetto culture perpetuates the mentality - not all members of the degrees of African Americans that you mention fit the ghetto personality. Those individuals do try to 'get on with it'. Therefore a weakening of the ghetto culture also weakens the perpetuation of the problems stemming from the ghetto culture concerned.

see the coldoleeza bit above. most are still pathetic and blame whitey for their problems though.

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Cash is not a resource but a figment that humans have empowered. Cash is also anonymous and dispassionate and this is why a lot of Aid was and is misused. With a lot of fine-tuning and a shift in the type of resources invested this line of thinking might approach plausability.

I shall leave the question of allowance out for the moment.

it doesnt have to be cash. we could give them a basket of goods and some tools. whatever!

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The military option is only plausible in defense as otherwise it is an act of tyranny. I am quite sure that Europe is capable of doing well without extracting Africa's resources.

then we can leave them be then cant we?

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It is not a matter of sympathy and you are very wrong about 'The World' - You owe The World your existence. Do you owe 'Africa' anything? Perhaps not but it 'is' in Europe's interest to have stable neighbours.

Otherwise Illegal Immigration would be here to stay.

no it wont. if they continue to invade we simply impose a quarantine around the nations from which they leave. you did say above that it is ok to use military action as a defensive measure no? malta should be doing it now. we owe africa nothing, it owes us.
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